FS,FAY & JONES Budgets&Growth Rates &...

FS,FAY & JONES Budgets&Growth Rates & Salaries

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Since: Jun 11

Fort Smith, AR

#1 Nov 28, 2012
FS 2013 proposed budget..$271.400,000
FAY Budget..........134,000,000 FS Budget is TWICE AS BIG
Jonesboro's Budget........$66,700,000 FS Budget is 4 TIMES AS BIG

FS Budget cost per person is $3,172 per person
FAY..........1,748 per person
JONESBORO..........1,007 per person

Growth Rate last 10 years
FS Growth rate is.... 7%
FAY Growth rate is ..27%
Jonesboro Growth is..22%

Don Hutchings motions to give the office of mayor a raise, from $10,000 to $20,000. The mayor presently has a budget of $253,000 a year and he is considered part-time and a part-time ceremonial only position. One thing our mayor does is sits on the A&P board and forces the taxpayers to subsidize the losses at the convention center and the A&P to the tune of between $700,000 -$1,300,000 a year, without making any changes to benefit the taxpayers.

It is amazing how some can slobber over each other in pay raises and loan forgiving, but forgets, it is the average, hardworking taxpayers that is sacrificing to make it all possible.
good post liberty

Fort Smith, AR

#2 Nov 28, 2012
ole slobber don seems to have lost sight of the fact that sandy just built a million dollar home in fort smith while the newspaper is loaded everyday with notices of the average fort smith citizen losing their homes because they don't have a job. who elected this idiot and who would be dumb enough to believe anything that comes out of his selfserving mouth?
how many

Fort Smith, AR

#3 Nov 28, 2012
how many selfserving idiots does it take to lose 13,000 jobs in a town and totally screw up the community? someone should ask don, sandy, gosack, good, and settle that very question!
What

Fort Smith, AR

#4 Nov 28, 2012
Here are some facts Jack:
Salary of Fort Smith Mayor:$10,000
Salary of Fayetteville Mayor:$107,039
Link: http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/fayetteville...
Salary of Jonesboro Mayor:$104,797
Link: http://www.jonesboro.org/documents/2012%20Bud...

Jonesboro's budget for the Mayor's department is $451,077. That is $198,000 more than the Fort Smith Mayor's office budget.
Link: http://www.jonesboro.org/documents/2012%20Bud...

Also Jack, as usual your figures are atrociously inaccurate. You give annual budget expenditures for Fort Smith, Fayetteville & Jonesboro. FYI-the figure you give for Jonesboro's annual budget does not include the water or sewer department. Check it out Jack. You will see that your figures failed to include the largest expenditures of the city (i.e. water and sewer service).
Link: http://www.jonesboro.org/documents/2012%20Bud...

You are trying to compare apples to oranges.
facts

Fort Smith, AR

#5 Nov 28, 2012
fort smith city administrator 200,000 dollars + assist city admin 150,000 dollars + fort smith mayor 253,000 dollars in salary and expenses + city department heads 1,000,000 dollars salary + sanitation management in fort smith almost 800,000 dollars + and the real facts are that jonesboro gets it all done for about 100 million dollars per year and fort smith city budget is over 271 million dollars per year! cut the crap and put the real numbers up for fort smith ncity administration and lets talk about city growth. jonesboro is over 22% with NW arkansas at over 30% and fort smith would be negative without annexations! give me a break!

Since: Jun 11

United States

#6 Nov 28, 2012
What wrote:
Here are some facts Jack:
Salary of Fort Smith Mayor:$10,000
Salary of Fayetteville Mayor:$107,039
Link: http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/fayetteville...
Salary of Jonesboro Mayor:$104,797
Link: http://www.jonesboro.org/documents/2012%20Bud...
Jonesboro's budget for the Mayor's department is $451,077. That is $198,000 more than the Fort Smith Mayor's office budget.
Link: http://www.jonesboro.org/documents/2012%20Bud...
Also Jack, as usual your figures are atrociously inaccurate. You give annual budget expenditures for Fort Smith, Fayetteville & Jonesboro. FYI-the figure you give for Jonesboro's annual budget does not include the water or sewer department. Check it out Jack. You will see that your figures failed to include the largest expenditures of the city (i.e. water and sewer service).
Link: http://www.jonesboro.org/documents/2012%20Bud...
You are trying to compare apples to oranges.
Excellent point......Since Fayettville and Jonesboro both have Mayor/Council forms of government

Maybe FS should revert back to Mayor/council and rather than pay the astronomical salary of our City Admistrator of $175,000, we could save a ton a money and the mayor would be responsible and accountable to the people...excellent idea
to the what idiot

Fort Smith, AR

#7 Nov 28, 2012
its the computor age! wake up because all of your nonsense can be verified and proved to be false! fort smith city administration can no longer hide the true facts without being exposed! fort smith budget is over 271 million dollars of taxpayer money and jonesboro gets it all done better for 100 million dollars and fayetteville gets it all done for not a whole lot more than jonesboro! the facts are all out there in the cyber world for all to see and fort smith management can't hide the truth any longer so its time to go to work and fly right!
please check facts

Fort Smith, AR

#8 Nov 28, 2012
when we add in the fort smith city administrators salary, the assist admin, along with the mayors expenses, fort smith spends over 600,000 dollars of salary to do what jonesboro does for a hell of a lot less taxpayer money!
con game

Fort Smith, AR

#9 Nov 28, 2012
not to worry liberty 13 because the fort smith city cronies are all caught in the act again of misrepresenting the true facts! your numbers are spot on and thank you for exposing this giant con game!
What

Fort Smith, AR

#10 Nov 28, 2012
please check facts wrote:
when we add in the fort smith city administrators salary, the assist admin, along with the mayors expenses, fort smith spends over 600,000 dollars of salary to do what jonesboro does for a hell of a lot less taxpayer money!
Well, if you want to play that game then we need to add in the Fayetteville Chief of Staff salary of $104,998, Communications & Marketing Director's salary of $73,651, Mayor's Office Administrator's salary of $44,859 and two, yes two Mayor's Office Administrative Assistants salaries of $44,346 and $40,766. That is additional salaries to add to Fayetteville's Mayor's office of $242,620.

Hey Jack, have you double checked your figures yet and verified that your Jonesboro budget number excluded the largest department expenditures in the city. You failed to include the water and sewer departments.
hey dummy crony

Fort Smith, AR

#11 Nov 28, 2012
"if you want to play that game" stuff it stupid! fort smith city budget is 271,000,000.00 dollars just as liberty 13 said! jonesboro is a little over 100 million dollars and fayetteville is not too much more than jonesboro? they are growing like crazy and fort smith is backing up and people are losing their homes! it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that fort smith is mismanaged and in serious trouble! cut the excuses and get to work building a business friendly city that is growing and producing new jobs! the difference between cost per person to live in the city is alarming and can no longer be justified! get to work and cut the BS.
What

Fort Smith, AR

#12 Nov 28, 2012
Where do you get your figure that Jonesboro's budget is "a little bit over 100 million dollars"?

You notice I provided direct links to all my figures.

Is your $100 million number a made up number? If not, provide the link.

Otherwise, you are just a bozo posting about something you know nothing about.

Provide the link man or shut up.
exposed

Fort Smith, AR

#13 Nov 28, 2012
you are already exposed "patrick" and caught with your hand in the cookie jar so enough said! does anyone have an extra pooper scooper to clean up patrick's BS.
What

Fort Smith, AR

#14 Nov 28, 2012
I take that as a NO. In other words you have no data to back up your number. It is simply a made up number that you created in your fantasy world mind.
TV show

Fort Smith, AR

#15 Nov 28, 2012
lets do a TV show for the citizens of fort smith and expose the real numbers! how about it????? can fort smith management afford to tell the truth? NO! its just a short time ago that gosack said " fort smith could no longer afford the TV broardcasts of directors meetings! then he exposed his 271 million dollar budget that is almost 3 times as high as a comparable city! was it a big lie? or was it your fantasy world?
What

Fort Smith, AR

#16 Nov 28, 2012
Again, I take that as a NO. In other words you have no data to back up your number. It is simply a made up number that you created in your fantasy world mind.

Substantiate your number. Failure to do so proves you are a bozo who cannot be taken seriously.
how about

Fort Smith, AR

#17 Nov 28, 2012
you are not answering the question about the TV show to expose the real numbers to the citizens!
great idea

Fort Smith, AR

#18 Nov 28, 2012
a TV show with our 200,000 dollar per year city manager answering question asked by CPA's that have the real numbers! what happened to those 13,000 jobs? why does fort smith spend 3 times as much as jonesboro to do less? why does fort smith spend over 2 times as much as fayetteville to do less? why is NW arkansas growing at over 30% and fort smith is backing up? why is jonesboro growing at over 22% and they don't have a riverfront? yep, can see old gosack standing in front of the TV camera all red faced and with a blank look on his face. bring it on!
also

Fort Smith, AR

#19 Nov 28, 2012
we need mayor sanders explaining why he needs 253,000 dollars in his budget and where the money goes! yes a TV show would be a great public service and offer the city management a chance to explain! the good rev don would also be able to explain why he thinks the mayor should get an extra 10,000 dollars too!
What

Fort Smith, AR

#20 Nov 28, 2012
great idea wrote:
a TV show with our 200,000 dollar per year city manager answering question asked by CPA's that have the real numbers! what happened to those 13,000 jobs? why does fort smith spend 3 times as much as jonesboro to do less? why does fort smith spend over 2 times as much as fayetteville to do less? why is NW arkansas growing at over 30% and fort smith is backing up? why is jonesboro growing at over 22% and they don't have a riverfront? yep, can see old gosack standing in front of the TV camera all red faced and with a blank look on his face. bring it on!
Now that we have established you completely made up a number about Jonesboro's annual budget, let's see if you are making up more items. Name at least two CPAs (you said CPA's, not CPA) who are asking these questions you claim about wasted city money. Your turn, name at least two CPAs. Otherwise we all will know, for the second time today, that you lie.

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