Cops: Truck driver not to blame in fa...

Cops: Truck driver not to blame in fatal accident

There are 28 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 30, 2009, titled Cops: Truck driver not to blame in fatal accident. In it, Newsday reports that:

The dump truck that tipped over and killed a Fort Salonga woman is being inspected for a possible brake failure, and Suffolk police said they don't expect to charge the truck driver.

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Eric

United States

#21 Jul 1, 2009
clueless wrote:
Thank you Steve Levy for having less highway patrol units to stop these dangerous trucks. Sure the family of this poor woman is glad you "attempted" to save the money.
This has to be one of the most moronic posts I've ever read on a Newsday forum, and spoken like a true SCPD employee. GET OVER IT AND STOP BlTCHING! This is about a tragic accident, not Levy's cuts in SCPD highway patrol units. One has NOTHING to do with the other. Highway patrol units would have been just as successful preventing this tragedy as Newsday has been stopping you from posting that stupid comment.
tired

Amityville, NY

#22 Jul 1, 2009
The truck didn't just flip over by itself. The driver was going to fast and took the turn too sharply.
Of course he is at fault!

And for heaven's sake someone check his cell phone logs to see if he was texting or talking at the time.
TJK

Stamford, CT

#23 Jul 1, 2009
the driver did the best he was able to.( imagine you in his place) It it easy for others to say what should have been done after the fact. Condolences to the family of the fatality. Also my heart goes out to driver who is a reaglar guy doing his job. He also has to live with tragedy for the rest of his life..God bless these two families you both are in my prayers
Ponderous

Oakdale, NY

#24 Jul 1, 2009
tired wrote:
The truck didn't just flip over by itself. The driver was going to fast and took the turn too sharply.
Of course he is at fault!
And for heaven's sake someone check his cell phone logs to see if he was texting or talking at the time.
He knows he took the turn too fast, he took the turn to avoid barreling through an intersection where there were many cars. It is tragic that he killed this woman, but who knows how much worse it would have been if he smashed 2-3 cars.
NMNB

Stamford, CT

#25 Jul 1, 2009
Hey TIRED did you read the article?

“ Fighting a corrupt system”

Since: Aug 08

Centereach,NY

#26 Jul 1, 2009
T Jefferson wrote:
Why does it take "weeks" to determine if the truck's brakes were in proper working order??????
They should be able to tell this in an hour!
The driver was "doing less than the speed limit". A garbage truck driver going SLOW? Either he is lying, or knew that the truck had bad brakes.
And to the idjit who blames not enough cops for this: When do you see cops pulling over garbage trucks, and how would a cop know if the truck had bad brakes?
We all know the real reason these garbage companies always get off scott-free....because they are owned by the guys who most of the cops and politicians work for...guys who belong to that five-letter fraternity that begins with an "M".
And nice going NYS- sure...let these companies self-inspect...I'm sure that the guy working for them is going to be perfectly honest and that they wouldn't penalize him if he kept the bosses trucks off the road![NOT!]
What good are the cops for anyway ??? They are the ones who sold out Robert Kubecka back in 89' and signed his death warrant.
liner

Bronx, NY

#27 Jul 1, 2009
clueless wrote:
Thank you Steve Levy for having less highway patrol units to stop these dangerous trucks. Sure the family of this poor woman is glad you "attempted" to save the money.
You really ARE clueless, aren't you? When did you ever see a Highway cop on Pulaski Rd? But then that has nothing to do with your agenda, does it?
tommy boy

Freehold, NJ

#28 Jul 1, 2009
It's not a dangerous intersection. Traffic moves very orderly and is well controlled. S..t happens all over all the time. Get used to it.
LateNightGuy

Brooklyn, NY

#29 Jul 1, 2009
liner wrote:
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You really ARE clueless, aren't you? When did you ever see a Highway cop on Pulaski Rd? But then that has nothing to do with your agenda, does it?
Didn't know Steve Levy had the power to 'stop trucks'...
Oh well-I think I'll blame this terrible tragedy on George Bush!
Makes me feel good.
clueless

Yonkers, NY

#30 Jul 1, 2009
lirr754 wrote:
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you really are cluless..........explain again how a cop could have prevented this. levy is doing the right thing. you sound like a cop that jost lost your overtime.
Since you need an explanation, don't worry I'll type slow, more trained officers whos' main function is to enforce traffic laws equals a chance of safer cars and trucks therefore a reduction in injuries and death. Not a hard concept to grasp my friend.
clueless

Yonkers, NY

#31 Jul 1, 2009
LateNightGuy wrote:
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Didn't know Steve Levy had the power to 'stop trucks'...
Oh well-I think I'll blame this terrible tragedy on George Bush!
Makes me feel good.
So I guess that truck only drove on Pulaski Rd?
gmc2272

Bronx, NY

#32 Jul 1, 2009
clueless wrote:
Thank you Steve Levy for having less highway patrol units to stop these dangerous trucks. Sure the family of this poor woman is glad you "attempted" to save the money.
Yeah, lets blame Steve Levy for this!! What do you want? A cop at every corner?
Syd

Brooklyn, NY

#33 Jul 1, 2009
Whoever mentioned about these trucks flying in the morning is correct. Did you notice that most of these large dump trucks with 22 tires don't have any company name or number written on them?
Last year I was in the HOV at about 7 in the morning. One of these trucks was all over the road. Then he was in the left lane. I had a bad feeling and slowed down and sure enough, he came into the HOV. We called 911 because we thought he was going to kill someone. By that time he was back in the middle lane. We passed a cop along the HOV and let him know. He did pull him over, but I don't know if anything came of it.
liner

Bronx, NY

#34 Jul 1, 2009
clueless wrote:
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So I guess that truck only drove on Pulaski Rd?
Hey clueless,,,YOU were the one who said Highway cops would have prevented this accident. Maybe you could take some time out of your job sweeping out the PBA office and explain how that would have worked.
Todd Schuster

New York, NY

#35 Jul 1, 2009
I hope the family of the deceased sues the pants off this trucking company. An innocent woman is dead no thanks to these incompetents. No it won't bring Deb back, but the family must make sure her death wasn't in vain. Condolences to Deb's family on their loss & I hope the trucking company has bad nightmares for the rest of their lives. Accident shmackident my butt.
Islander

Stony Brook, NY

#36 Jul 1, 2009
The truck driver was driving down Pulaski Road on his way to the incinerator in that area.

Pulaski Road on both sides of Bread and Cheese Hollow Road are very steep hills. The west side winds like crazy and it's extremely dangerous.

Personally, I don't think it was the truck driver's fault. The brakes failed and the truck that was going down a steep hill kept picking up speed. He saw traffic up ahead and had to act within seconds before hitting them. He did the best he or anyone else could have done in the same situation given the same set of circumstances.

Alot of trucking companies are not exactly very good at keeping their trucks repaired and in good working order. Even Hertz rent a truck was written up time and time again, not to mention all of the others.

They don't think much of their truck drivers and consider them a dime a dozen, which is very sad. They think that the lives of their truck drivers are expendable. Every life is precious, including truck drivers.

My deepest condolences to this woman's family. She didn't deserve to die like this.
Blueskies

Schaumburg, IL

#37 Jul 1, 2009
So sad for everyone involved. Sometimes accidents happen and it is sad. I bet the driver is going to be thinking, what could he have done differently for the rest of his life. My prayers go out to the woman and the driver.

This has nothing to do with the current situation but my husband is a truck driver and so many times he is driving and people cut him off and then come to a stop or they zip around him because the truck is goig slow only to cut back in front and come to a stop. Many people do not realize that trucks can not stop like cars. SO please be careful when trying to cut in front of a truck. Those drivers are not out to hurt anyone and do their best when driving with tons of weight on their trucks but sometimes the laws of physics work against them.
LateNightGuy

Brooklyn, NY

#38 Jul 1, 2009
clueless wrote:
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So I guess that truck only drove on Pulaski Rd?
I don't know where that truck had been.
I hear no charges filed by the police-for now.
I don't think the driver was out to kill someone (or himself-if that had been the case).
That's why tragic events like these are called 'accidents'..it was not an on purpose crash.
It could have been any one of us.
I don't know if he exceeded the speed limit, was drinking (early in the a.m.) was ill,-that's not for me to find out-but someone will.
My condolences to the family.
Concerned

Larchmont, NY

#39 Jul 1, 2009
One of the basic rules taught in Driver's Ed is that you must always maintain control of your car and not drive too fast for conditions.

I'm sure the driver didn't set out on his route that morning planning to kill someone, but his negligence and reckless driving certainly brought about this poor woman's death. The hill on Pulaski from Kings Park to the intersection is not that steep or that winding -- it's much more steep and winding WEST of the intersection. There are definitely some inconsistencies in the truck driver's version of events, and the police should not be exonerating OR accusing him at this point until all tests and reconstructions are completed. If he was driving with the sense and caution that is required for such a heavy vehicle, the woman would be alive today. If he was truly not speeding, when he realized his brakes weren't working (still to be proven), then he should have hit the horn immediately to warn the other cars in the intersection. It's not a really busy intersection anyway -- as one previous poster says, the decision to continue straight ahead (after warning people with the horn) would have been better and probably not killed anyone. He must have panicked.

When a light turns green for me, I always wait at least two seconds to make sure no one is running the light from the other direction. It may tick off those drivers behind me, but I have seen too many people obliviously running lights and causing accidents. Maybe that's what this poor woman did since she was just sitting at the intersection where the driver claims his light was red (making hers green.)

My heart goes out to the family and friends she leaves behind.
LateNightGuy

Brooklyn, NY

#40 Jul 1, 2009
Concerned wrote:
One of the basic rules taught in Driver's Ed is that you must always maintain control of your car and not drive too fast for conditions.
I'm sure the driver didn't set out on his route that morning planning to kill someone, but his negligence and reckless driving certainly brought about this poor woman's death. The hill on Pulaski from Kings Park to the intersection is not that steep or that winding -- it's much more steep and winding WEST of the intersection. There are definitely some inconsistencies in the truck driver's version of events, and the police should not be exonerating OR accusing him at this point until all tests and reconstructions are completed. If he was driving with the sense and caution that is required for such a heavy vehicle, the woman would be alive today. If he was truly not speeding, when he realized his brakes weren't working (still to be proven), then he should have hit the horn immediately to warn the other cars in the intersection. It's not a really busy intersection anyway -- as one previous poster says, the decision to continue straight ahead (after warning people with the horn) would have been better and probably not killed anyone. He must have panicked.
When a light turns green for me, I always wait at least two seconds to make sure no one is running the light from the other direction. It may tick off those drivers behind me, but I have seen too many people obliviously running lights and causing accidents. Maybe that's what this poor woman did since she was just sitting at the intersection where the driver claims his light was red (making hers green.)
My heart goes out to the family and friends she leaves behind.
You're pretty fierce with the shoulda, coulda, woulda's.
How do you know what you would have done-split second decision!
Isn't hindsight 20/20 !

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