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#21 Sep 11, 2012
CIA Free wrote:
<quoted text>
"ALL THAT, FOR NOTHING"
Unfortunately, the above 4 words are what come first to mind when one of Jehovah's Witnesses dies physically to stand judgment before Jesus Christ for what he did while in the body.
Only then does he or finally realize that everything that they were instructed to do and obey from the Watchtower Society was all for nothing.
The Watchtower said it, they believed it and that made it so. They never even bothered to take the time to really examine and scrutinize what the Watchtower was telling them. They just accepted it as the truth and that was good enough for them.
But not for God. God never said anything about there being a true "religion" or organization that one must join and associate with. God never said to shun and deride all those who choose to take issue with something the Watchtower says that they knew to be in error.
Jehovah's Witnesses don't even accept Jesus as their mediator to God. And every year they publicly reject the bread and wine which symbolize his flesh and blood that he willingly gave in behalf of us all -- and in behalf of the whole world.
The bible is the infallible word of God:

(Hebrews 10:24, 25) 24 And let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works, 25 not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as YOU behold the day drawing near.

So according to you, these words are directions from God to associate with any denomination that professes Christ?

(Hebrews 13:17) 17 Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among YOU and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over YOUR souls as those who will render an account; that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to YOU.

So according to you, these words above were directions from God to be obedient to anyone who professes to take the lead amongst God sheep in the many different professed Christians denominations?

Who should I not forsake the gathering with according to Hebrews 10:24, 25?

Who is taking the lead according to Hebrews 13:17 today?

Let me guess, no one, those scriptures don't apply to any one Christian group right!? How convenient!
hMMMM

Aurora, IL

#22 Sep 11, 2012
Bible teacher wrote:
Jehovah's witnesses do not force anyone to stop the holidays, any one of them.
Liar.
Jehovah's Witnesses force every child of the cult not to celebrate.
At the age children can "decide" to get baptized, they should also be able to decide if they want to go to a birthday party, WITHOUT the threats of emotional abuse the WBTS requires.
Their parents should still love them if they go to a birthday party for Christ's sake,
Only in a wacked out cult like the Jehovah's Witnesses would parents threaten to withhold affection and love if a child disobeys any proclamation of the 'governing demons"
It is disgusting.

Since: Feb 09

United States

#23 Sep 11, 2012
Duh-boy wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible is the infallible word of God:
(Hebrews 10:24, 25) 24 And let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works, 25 not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as YOU behold the day drawing near.
So according to you, these words are directions from God to associate with any denomination that professes Christ?
(Hebrews 13:17) 17 Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among YOU and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over YOUR souls as those who will render an account; that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to YOU.
So according to you, these words above were directions from God to be obedient to anyone who professes to take the lead amongst God sheep in the many different professed Christians denominations?
Who should I not forsake the gathering with according to Hebrews 10:24, 25?
Who is taking the lead according to Hebrews 13:17 today?
Let me guess, no one, those scriptures don't apply to any one Christian group right!? How convenient!
Yes, that is absolutely right.

It's from God and it was meant to be convenient for all Christians because they are all the property of God not men or their religious organizations. The fact that you choose to call yourself a Jehovah’s Witness is no different than those early Christians who said that they belong to Paul or to Appollos. That was wrong then and it is wrong now.

Paul said that you belong to Christ; he paid for you at great cost to himself. But you have elected to distinguish yourselves from other Christians by adopting peculiar beliefs that falsely divide persons along the lines that the Watchtower has drawn.

Since: Feb 09

Raleigh, NC

#24 Sep 11, 2012
Duh-boy wrote:
(Hebrews 13:17) 17 Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among YOU and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over YOUR souls as those who will render an account; that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to YOU.

So according to you, these words above were directions from God to be obedient to anyone who professes to take the lead amongst God sheep in the many different professed Christians denominations?
How many denominations existed among the first century Christians?

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West Lafayette, IN

#25 Nov 7, 2013
Jehovah's Witnesses are the JOKES of the planet. They live their lives in a FANTASY WORLD of their own making where they IMAGINE themselves to be the SMARTEST people on the planet KNOWING more than everyone else. In reality, Jehovah's Witnesses are NOTHING but a bunch of DUPES serving as WORKER BEES for the QEEEN BEE and her DRONES living the good life back at the hive.

Since: Dec 13

Fort Myers, FL

#26 Dec 20, 2013
All this over a bunch of idiotic, archaic non-sense. Will you religious people ever grow the **** up and stop acting like infantile children when you don't get your way or when someone disagrees with you?
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#27 Dec 22, 2013
It is true, Jehovah's witnesses are no part of this world, and we enjoy our prospect of a new world of peace and happiness to live in. If that makes us wierd, so be it. To us, this world is the loser.
Psalm 37:11
2Peter 3:11-13
1John 2:15

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

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#28 Dec 22, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
It is true, Jehovah's witnesses are no part of this world, and we enjoy our prospect of a new world of peace and happiness to live in. If that makes us wierd, so be it. To us, this world is the loser.
Psalm 37:11
2Peter 3:11-13
1John 2:15
I love how you say this, it's one of the JWs mantras.
But it is not true. Not in many many ways.
JWs pick and choose what part of the world they are in or not in.

If you want to be no part of the world you will have to be more like the Amish/Mennonite/ etc type people. They are becoming more a part of the world, but they are a lot closer than you have ever been to not being part of the world. So I would take off that prideful hat you are wearing, it doesn't make you weird it makes you untruthful.

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

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#29 Dec 22, 2013
JaffaKree wrote:
All this over a bunch of idiotic, archaic non-sense. Will you religious people ever grow the **** up and stop acting like infantile children when you don't get your way or when someone disagrees with you?
You are not allowed to disagree with religious people, particularly witnesses. They are right you are wrong and if you disagree you are mentally diseased and going to be destroyed by an immature vengeful brat of a God they created in the big war of Armageddon. They are going to watch the birds pluck your eyes from your corpses.

Since: Feb 09

Raleigh, NC

#30 Dec 24, 2013
CIA Free wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, that is absolutely right.
It's from God and it was meant to be convenient for all Christians because they are all the property of God not men or their religious organizations. The fact that you choose to call yourself a Jehovah’s Witness is no different than those early Christians who said that they belong to Paul or to Appollos. That was wrong then and it is wrong now.
Paul said that you belong to Christ; he paid for you at great cost to himself. But you have elected to distinguish yourselves from other Christians by adopting peculiar beliefs that falsely divide persons along the lines that the Watchtower has drawn.
Duh-boy? Duh-boy? Where are you?

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

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#31 Dec 24, 2013
CIA Free wrote:
<quoted text>
Duh-boy? Duh-boy? Where are you?
a boy by another name???

Since: Mar 09

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#32 Dec 24, 2013
CIA Free wrote:
<quoted text>
"ALL THAT, FOR NOTHING"
Unfortunately, the above 4 words are what come first to mind when one of Jehovah's Witnesses dies physically to stand judgment before Jesus Christ for what he did while in the body.
Only then does he or finally realize that everything that they were instructed to do and obey from the Watchtower Society was all for nothing.
The Watchtower said it, they believed it and that made it so. They never even bothered to take the time to really examine and scrutinize what the Watchtower was telling them. They just accepted it as the truth and that was good enough for them.
But not for God. God never said anything about there being a true "religion" or organization that one must join and associate with. God never said to shun and deride all those who choose to take issue with something the Watchtower says that they knew to be in error.
Jehovah's Witnesses don't even accept Jesus as their mediator to God. And every year they publicly reject the bread and wine which symbolize his flesh and blood that he willingly gave in behalf of us all -- and in behalf of the whole world.
Lying religions teach all to partake of the blood and body---Gods word clearly teaches some are unworthy- 1 cor 11:27----- The only religion on the planet that teaches some are unworthy is the JW,s--Why? cant the rest of this worlds supposed Christian religions read? Can you read?

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

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#33 Dec 24, 2013
1 cor 11

23 For I received from the Lord that which I also handed on to YOU, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was going to be handed over took a loaf 24 and, after giving thanks, he broke it and said:“This means my body which is in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” 25 He did likewise respecting the cup also, after he had the evening meal, saying:“This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, as often as YOU drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For as often as YOU eat this loaf and drink this cup, YOU keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives.

Just who was he talking to here?

Here I'll help you out.

1&#8194;Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through God’s will, and Sos&#8242;the&#8231;ne s our brother

2 to the congregation of God that is in Corinth,

Not to 'anointed' not to a special group, but to the congregation. Members of the congregation, not to only anointed ones.

Some would be unworthy as they may be hypocrites or blatant sinners.
There is no mention that unworthy means not anointed.

He is talking to the entire congregation.

Now your turn to call the bible a liar.

Since: Mar 09

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#34 Dec 24, 2013
MixedMedia wrote:
1 cor 11
23 For I received from the Lord that which I also handed on to YOU, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was going to be handed over took a loaf 24 and, after giving thanks, he broke it and said:“This means my body which is in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” 25 He did likewise respecting the cup also, after he had the evening meal, saying:“This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, as often as YOU drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For as often as YOU eat this loaf and drink this cup, YOU keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives.
Just who was he talking to here?
Here I'll help you out.
1&#8194;Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through God’s will, and Sos&#8242;the&#8231;ne s our brother
2 to the congregation of God that is in Corinth,
Not to 'anointed' not to a special group, but to the congregation. Members of the congregation, not to only anointed ones.
Some would be unworthy as they may be hypocrites or blatant sinners.
There is no mention that unworthy means not anointed.
He is talking to the entire congregation.
Now your turn to call the bible a liar.
So then the trinity religions must believe there is no hypocrites or blatant sinners in their flocks because they tell all to partake--out of darkness they tell all to partake--because even in your own words --some are unworthy-. Just as Gods word teaches some are unworthy-- So do the teachers that listen to Gods word teach to the flock.

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

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#35 Dec 24, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
<quoted text>
So then the trinity religions must believe there is no hypocrites or blatant sinners in their flocks because they tell all to partake--out of darkness they tell all to partake--because even in your own words --some are unworthy-. Just as Gods word teaches some are unworthy-- So do the teachers that listen to Gods word teach to the flock.
It never ever fails that in the end the pro witnesses will point their crooked little fingers at someone else and say 'well they are doing it worse than us'.

No where do the scriptures directing the partaking of the emblems say only for the anointed.
All others are not worthy? Please show some unrelated scripture that you think proves that.

Since: Mar 09

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#36 Dec 25, 2013
MixedMedia wrote:
<quoted text>
It never ever fails that in the end the pro witnesses will point their crooked little fingers at someone else and say 'well they are doing it worse than us'.
No where do the scriptures directing the partaking of the emblems say only for the anointed.
All others are not worthy? Please show some unrelated scripture that you think proves that.
The point being made is that Gods word teaches --- some are unworthy--- the only teachers who have any clue are the JW teachers, the only teachers teaching that some are unworthy.

So then do Jesus teachers just throw that truth away and tell all to partake or do Jesus teachers teach some are unworthy?

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

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#37 Dec 25, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
<quoted text>
The point being made is that Gods word teaches --- some are unworthy--- the only teachers who have any clue are the JW teachers, the only teachers teaching that some are unworthy.
So then do Jesus teachers just throw that truth away and tell all to partake or do Jesus teachers teach some are unworthy?
That is untrue. Some others teach that some are unworthy, they just don't single out an entire group of people because they didn't get the 'feeling' from Jesus. They preach that they would be unworthy if they were not doing it in earnest and were being hypocritical. The bible does not say that only the anointed do it. Show scripture that does. It does not say those not anointed are not worthy. Show scripture that does. Not scripture that says some are unworthy because no where does some=non anointed.
Why would Jesus think that the rank and files should not remember him this way?
You are going to need to show a scripture that shows that non anointed as a group are unworthy. You are going to need scripture that says that only the anointed are told to do it.

Since: Mar 09

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#38 Dec 25, 2013
MixedMedia wrote:
<quoted text>
That is untrue. Some others teach that some are unworthy, they just don't single out an entire group of people because they didn't get the 'feeling' from Jesus. They preach that they would be unworthy if they were not doing it in earnest and were being hypocritical. The bible does not say that only the anointed do it. Show scripture that does. It does not say those not anointed are not worthy. Show scripture that does. Not scripture that says some are unworthy because no where does some=non anointed.
Why would Jesus think that the rank and files should not remember him this way?
You are going to need to show a scripture that shows that non anointed as a group are unworthy. You are going to need scripture that says that only the anointed are told to do it.
One needs to listen to Jesus' teachers.

Since: Feb 09

Raleigh, NC

#39 Feb 23, 2014
kjw51 wrote:
<quoted text>
Lying religions teach all to partake of the blood and body---Gods word clearly teaches some are unworthy- 1 cor 11:27----- The only religion on the planet that teaches some are unworthy is the JW,s--Why? cant the rest of this worlds supposed Christian religions read? Can you read?
Are YOU capable of reading with understanding?

Read those scriptures again including those prior to it. What is the situation that caused the apostle to address this matter?

Hint: It has absolutely nothing to do with the Watchtower's view about being anointed or not.
Snorkler

Johannesburg, South Africa

#40 Feb 23, 2014
Unlike any other religion , we are Jehovah Witnesses , we belong to Jehovah ,, we do not belong to a Church ie RCC or the Anglican Church or a Charismatic Church etc , we are Jehovah Witnesses .

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