Teen dies after vehicle carrying 4 ot...

Teen dies after vehicle carrying 4 others rolls

There are 116 comments on the KUSA Denver story from May 20, 2007, titled Teen dies after vehicle carrying 4 others rolls. In it, KUSA Denver reports that:

Police suspect excessive speed to be a factor in a rollover accident Saturday that left one teenager dead.

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Heather

Denver, CO

#21 May 20, 2007
I am from the Lochbuie area, Weld County roads are bad because mainly there are no police patrol anywhere there. As Mr. Duffy said the areas are being patroled by basically Barney and Andy. Lochbuie are full of reserves, and Lupton might have 10 cops for a 10000 person town. They cannot be everywhere.Weld County is the second largest county in America, there would never be enough police patrol to fix this problem. Living there for 16 yrs I have known a dozen people who have died on the roads out there. I am an ex firefighter for Hudson and Lochbuie, you just dont have a clue what these kids do. It is not Denver, Aurora or Lakewood it is a completely different life.
Network Engineer wrote:
What is it with Weld County road. Its seems that every week there is someone dead due to careless driving.
Kevin Duffy glad to see your kid is alright.
Those two lane roads out here in weld county are so dangerous and there is nothing you can do about it.
Another dead teen

Redwood City, CA

#22 May 20, 2007
Natural selection at work. Shoulda been wearin' her seatbelt. Stupid to have not. She made the decision on her own. Kid died last week doing a stupid skateboard stunt. This is natural selection. The dumb ones die..the smart ones live on.
Dominic

Arvada, CO

#23 May 20, 2007
I can not beleive this has happened, and would like to collect donations for the family:
[email protected]
PFC, Dominic Kirby
Flatirons Young Marines
Friend

Eaton, CO

#24 May 20, 2007
Blowing the whistle wrote:
Apparently there are several people in Lupton that are trying to get their names in the paper or faces on the news as a result of this tragic accident. The kid that they interviewed on 9 news tonight was a very estranged friend of the Victim. Pretty sad when you gotta get steal the spotlight from a dead kid. I also think its pretty wrong for the media to publish the names and ages of the minors who survived the crash. Those poor kids are going to go through enough without being thrust into the spotlight. But sensationalism sells in this day and age. Lets bring back that old 90's saying and Kill our Televisions.....
The kid was not an estranged friend. Having a friend die is hard on anyone let alone a fourteen year old kid. The shock of death and a camara in your face may impair your comments a little. This kid would in no way try and "steal the spotlight" from Mandy. As you saw in the clip there were only a few kids at the actual site of the crash itself because many others were at a memorial at the towns community center so the kid was pretty much it for the press. He didn't have much of a choice. The kids comments about her were very positive and he believed they were true. Please just leave the kid alone. Everyone mourns differently and this was his way of expressing himself. My condolences and prayers are with the families, victims, and the entire community. May Mandy rest in peace.
Karen

Denver, CO

#25 May 20, 2007
So very very tragic. Our family's prayers go out to everyone involved!
Wesleys Mom

Newington, CT

#26 May 20, 2007
This tragedy has affected many families including my own, one of the passengers was my son. Mandy was a peacemaker and a very loving girl. Mandy is my other son’s best friend and boyfriend to my second son. My 16-year-old son recently said to me “mom I know I am young but she is the one I am going to marry, I will wait for her until we are older.”
Several weeks ago, there was a speeding incident involving Justin, I understand that anyone can make a poor choice and I am not trying to put him down just describing how the chain of events transpired. I know that Mandy was important to him and he loved her too. She just has a beautiful spirit that draws you to her. I know that Justin is feeling terrible however; it does not bring back our Mandy. He needs to be held responsible for his 'Adult' choice.
Do not judge us parents and say “why did we let her go with these boys?” These boys are good, as someone else stated they are typical teenagers with the invincible attitude.
All of us parents have been working together to help reach these kids. We have been encouraging them to look at life as an adult. Recently, Justin had left the house with two of my boys without my permission. I went after the boys. I could see the taillights disappearing at what seemed to be a high rate of speed. After a short time, I saw them pulled over on the side of the road. Relieved that they had been stopped and were safe, I thought I would regain some control by asking the officers,”three of them” to please give them a reality check and let them all know how dangerous and inappropriate there actions were. One officer was helpful and agreed to escort them back to my house, because one of the boys was a minor. I thought this was great; however, the other office informed me that since the other boys were of legal age 18 and 19 there was nothing more that he could do he also informed the boys. Both boys went on there way after that comment from the police with a smug look on their faces. So, did this officer help? Why wouldn’t he tell them the rest of adulthood consequences? Instead, he tells them,“you are 18 years old and now you can do what you want”. Did he tell them that doing what you want comes with a price?
How sad it is that my family has been given a pamphlet (29) pages on how to educate us on dealing with emotions of this tragedy but intervention to prevent this neglect was minimal.
Wow, 18.. Now they are considered mature and capable of dealing with their own emotions. I will always wonder what would have happened if the officers had intervened in my behalf and used there knowledge to educate the boys. Sadly, I saw little interaction before the tragedy. I am grateful that the recourses are there to deal with a tragedy such as this, but I am also angry and concerned that I was not allowed to discipline my older child because the law says he is an adult. I feel that my power as a parent to discipline and teach life lessons has been taken away, the police should be more than willing to scare these kids with some of the stories that they have, even carry pictures or make them go to class anything but give them a break. Empower the parents so we can take action stand behind us. Community service is just that, it involves more than writing a ticket,
Wesleys Mom

Newington, CT

#27 May 20, 2007
When I was younger our schools and parents were able to discipline children and we did have more respect for our elders. Schools could spank us on the bottom and parents could tell us “NO” and the kids couldn’t cry wolf. Were did those days go.
I have seen the Police, or Military get in peoples faces, raise their voice to get their point across to an unruly person. Why wouldn’t they step in and help when the Justin got his ticket just a few weeks ago? He was driving 76mph in a 35mph zone? Since this boy was not my son, the only thing I could do was to tell him he was not welcomed in my home anymore. I informed the other parents and encouraged my own children to be cautious of who they ride with.
If I am not allowed to raise my voice or take away their privileges then how do I discipline? At the age of 16 the children know that they can quit school and Mom can’t do anything about it. They know that if mom or dad spanks them or takes their play station away they can get the parent into trouble. 18 and 19 is still a minor. Give the parents back the power to raise the children. How do we make an impact to teach them with out tools or good communication skills? I am not talking about a beating or being abusive. I am talking about being able to call the police and get support when young ‘adults’ are in our face yelling at us and telling us that the police say they can do what they want now.” Some of you might be thinking counseling.. Get this at the age of 15 years old the child has the right to refuse counseling.
Now another child is dead and the children are learning that maybe doing anything they want causes pain and possible death. I am thankful it is not mine, my heart goes out to all of you that have experienced this, and my prayers are with the rest of you. Educate yourself and promote more education to our children. Don’t let yourself be the one reading about you child or loved one just as we have. Ask the law enforcement agency to back you up and help you make a difference, in fact insist.
Wesleys Mom

Newington, CT

#28 May 20, 2007
Let us get back to raising our children as a community with some of the old fashion rules and values. Let's teach them better communications skills and honor.
Wesleys Mom

Newington, CT

#29 May 20, 2007
This tragedy as affected many families including my own, one of the passengers was my son. Mandy was a peacemaker and a very loving girl. Mandy is my other son’s best friend and boyfriend to my second son. My 16-year-old son recently said to me “mom I know I am young but she is the one I am going to marry, I will wait for her until we are older.”

Several weeks ago, there was a speeding incident involving Justin, I understand that anyone can make a poor choice and I am not trying to put him down just describing how the chain of events transpired. I know that Mandy was important to him and he loved her too. She just has a beautiful spirit that draws you to her. I know that Justin is feeling terrible however; it does not bring back our Mandy.

Do not judge us parents and say “why did we let her go with these boys?” These boys are good as someone else stated they are typical teenagers with the invincible attitude.

All of us parents have been working together to help reach these kids. We have been encouraging them to look at life as an adult. Recently, Justin had left the house with two of my boys without my permission. I went after the boys. I could see the taillights disappearing at what seemed to be a high rate of speed. After a short time, I saw them pulled over on the side of the road. Relieved that they had been stopped and were safe, I thought I would regain some control by asking the officers,”three of them” to please give them a reality check and let them all know how dangerous and inappropriate there actions were. One officer was help full and agreed to escort them back to my house, because one of the boys was a minor. I thought this was great; however, the other office informed me that since the other boys were of legal age 18 and 19 there was nothing more that he could do he also informed the boys. Both boys went on there way after that comment from the police with a smug on there face. So, did this officer help? Why wouldn’t he tell them the rest of adulthood consequences? Instead, he tells them,“you are 18 years old and now you can do what you want”.
Wesleys Mom

Newington, CT

#30 May 20, 2007
Another dead teen wrote:
Natural selection at work. Shoulda been wearin' her seatbelt. Stupid to have not. She made the decision on her own. Kid died last week doing a stupid skateboard stunt. This is natural selection. The dumb ones die..the smart ones live on.
Your comment should have been filed in the toilet.
Devan Martinez

Broomfield, CO

#31 May 20, 2007
Ive known Rachel inmun since i was little but i didnt really know mandy brown but i talked to her a few times and im sad that shes gone but im thankful that the other two passagers are ok but i will miss her and im shure that her firends and family will miss her
Castro

Littleton, CO

#32 May 20, 2007
Mandy was a good person.She helped everyone when sad or mad.She was more than a friend in 6th grade.We went out for 4 months and a half.She made thing crazy and fun.Shes the person who would make a frown turrn upside down.forget what other people say, she was a really good person.Prayers go out to her family.R.I.P. Mandy Brown
Her Hero

Denver, CO

#33 May 20, 2007
This is Mandy's older brother. I have a lot to say but don't want to type it all. First and foremost whoever wlfpnthr is, please call we would like to know please. Secondly, whoever posted the natural selection piece... where do you get off calling a 14 year old little girl "dumb"?! Who do you think you are? Also anyone who knows anything about this so called "natural selection" knows that it has nothing to do with kids. We loved Mandy very much and she was a VERY bright little girl with a HUGE future ahead of her. She was outgoing and kind.
Devan Martinez

Broomfield, CO

#34 May 20, 2007
But she was a very funny person in 6th grade and she would make me laugh and i will miss her so and may her reast in peace and bless her family and firends i will miss you mandy
Teen

Seattle, WA

#35 May 20, 2007
Mandy was the most wonderful girl you could ever have met. These comments should be used to remember her... not argue. Yes, this was a very tragic accident and more than likely the teen driver is at fault. He should not have had those 3 girls in the truck with him...especially girls of that age. But this is one more reason why teens need to have stricter driving laws and one more reason for parents to keep a better track of where their children are. I hope that the memory of this accident lives with the driver forever and may everyone who hears this story learn from it. Rest in peace Mandy.
Been there - done that

Aurora, CO

#36 May 20, 2007
The things I used to do when I was young and "invincible"... I used to race, I used to "drift".

On several occasions I took my brand-new used Chevy Chevette up a gravel road in the hills near my house and would speed down the hill at 50 or 60 mph - the car sliding completely sideways in the gravel at each harpin corner.

On one side was a rock face, on the other side... a 1000-foot (or more) cliff. And NO guardrails. And I loved to make the car fishtail in the "S" curves at the bottom..... Hey. I knew what I was doing...

Right.

Geeeeez. I was DAMN lucky .. and damn stupid. This sort of thing could happen to anyone - I now have many advanced degrees, yet I was stupid enough to go "rodding"....

I pray for the family and friends affected by this.
Mandys Mom and Dad

Denver, CO

#37 May 20, 2007
We would like to thank everyone for their support during this very hard time. We loved Mandy with everything we had. She was a beautiful young lady with her whole life ahead of her. She was loved by so many people and this community has shown that. This was a tragic accident and these kids were her best friends. She knew she could count on them for anything. We will miss her dearly. Mandy We love you so much!!
Mandys Little Sister

Denver, CO

#38 May 20, 2007
Mandy, you were my only sister and I love you very much. I will miss you everyday. You were great to everyone.
Breanna

Loveland, CO

#39 May 20, 2007
Mandy Brown was my cousin and a wonder person who would do anything for anybody. She was a true friend and cousin to me. She was always there if I needed anything. I am not well liked at our school but the people that knew Mandy was my cousin learned to except my differences. She will be missed alot by family and friends. She is an angel now and I know that she will be there to help guide me through the rest of my problems in high school and make her close friends realize that I may be different but I am a person too. I Love you Mandy and will miss you.
Breanna

Loveland, CO

#40 May 20, 2007
I'm from Fort Lupton, Colorado not Berthoud

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