Parents protest principals' layoff, t...

Parents protest principals' layoff, transfers in Middletown

There are 3 comments on the Asbury Park Press story from Jun 15, 2010, titled Parents protest principals' layoff, transfers in Middletown. In it, Asbury Park Press reports that:

Fairview Elementary School will not lose its principal for the coming school year, but Bayview Elementary and Thorne middle schools are still fighting to keep theirs.

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Turd Ferguson

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Jun 18, 2010
Do you think it is appropriate for the President of the Thorne PTO to take ANY side on the Principal's status? I don't.

As a parent, would I have my child stand up and comment about the Principal. No, I wouldn't, unless I explained to my child the school budget process, the concept of 'tenure', and the impact of the teachers' union on these operational matters...
momhal3

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#2 Jun 19, 2010
The problem is you are seeing it as a job. Most parents including myself are seeing it as losing a family member. I will have my 8 and 5 year olds stand up for what they believe in. They love their principal and so do I what is the matter with support. As for the head of PTA taking the principal's side good for them, they are of course a parent of a student who will suffer from these moves.
Turd Ferguson wrote:
Do you think it is appropriate for the President of the Thorne PTO to take ANY side on the Principal's status? I don't.
As a parent, would I have my child stand up and comment about the Principal. No, I wouldn't, unless I explained to my child the school budget process, the concept of 'tenure', and the impact of the teachers' union on these operational matters...
Turd Ferguson

Philadelphia, PA

#3 Jun 20, 2010
momhal3 wrote:
The problem is you are seeing it as a job. Most parents including myself are seeing it as losing a family member. I will have my 8 and 5 year olds stand up for what they believe in. They love their principal and so do I what is the matter with support. As for the head of PTA taking the principal's side good for them, they are of course a parent of a student who will suffer from these moves.<quoted text>
Well, for the sake of full disclosure, I am the parent of a student in Middletown whose Principal's contract is not being renewed. And, for what it is worth, his contract is not being renewed because he is not tenured.

The unfortunate thing here is that it is not a matter of performance, it is a matter of 'tenure'...a concept that unionized teachers have made an acceptable part of the educational landscape.

In the real world, employees are reviewed annually on their performance. Those who do not meet the minimum standards are dismissed from their position. That is not the case for teachers. Once they have achieved tenure, it is smooth sailing from there. You don't know the situation here in Middletown. Go ahead, sing 'Kumbaya' in your classes in Lakewood if that gives a comforting feeling of 'family'. Me, I'm just looking for my kids to achieve as much as they can.

And, please, don't give me any of this,'You don't know Lakewood' garbage. I was born in Point Pleasant and raised in Brick, at the time a VERY blue collar town, and I am quite familiar with the goings on in Lakewood. Regardless, I still managed to get an MBA and am doing quite well in the business community. It wasn't easy for me, but as a result of stringent parental control, I was able to achieve to my maximum ability.

Bottom line, what is your five, or eight your old going to provide to you with respect to managing a classroom or a school? Admit it, the Principal could be a major league incompetent, but how would your eight your old know that?

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