Miami Dolphins: NFL insiders say Pat White will help Dolphins b...

Miami Dolphins czar Bill Parcells usually skips the Senior Bowl, but this year he wanted to see one specific player up close and personal. Full Story
clint

Columbus, OH

#63 Apr 29, 2009
I live in Ohio, and the local TV station here showed nothing but WVU games here all year long and believe me Pat white was a steal. The kid can do it all and he never gets rattled. My mother loves Pat White and WVU. When my favorite team picked him, I couldn't believe it. I thought Christmas came early. I also believe that the Patriots wanted Pat White badly. I think Miami drafted him for 2 reasons 1) He's a good player and 2)They didn't want the Patriots to get him. I think our offense will roll this year. The people in Miami are in for a treat. Just wait and see. Our offense (and the Wildcat) is going to take football to new level. What a fantastic pick, I'm still in shock.

Since: Dec 07

West Palm Beach, FL.

#64 Apr 29, 2009
oracle wrote:
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woodstrock returns with a vengeance!!
great post.
it's as if we couldn't quite handle the "rocket science" intricacies of a pro set offense, and thus HAD to "gimmick" up the field to hide our "deficiencies"!!!
Yah right. Ricky and Ronnie are such low rent RB's!!
PPPPUUUULLLLEEEEAAASSSEEEE!!!! !
All we did and will do this year is start the next phase of offensive football in the NFL. The West Coast will still be effective, but why the heck NOT stick a guy under the ball who can run, throw, and catch the rock???!!!
Thank the Good Lord Above for a new wrinkle in the boring world of NFL offenses!!
Can't not WAIT to see White, Ronnie, Chad, Ricky, Turner, Ginn, Hartline, Bess, Cobb, heck, Wilford, Camarillo,et al stut out onto the field at Atlanta and nut fluck the Falcons!!!!
I'm with you - the Pat White pick was a masterful stroke by the Trifecta. Now what do you do as an opposing defense? Who do you watch? We all saw what happens when you add the passing game to the Wildcat - it creates mis-matches all over the field... Now with White in the mix, how do you prepare for it? I LOVE it!

Since: Dec 07

West Palm Beach, FL.

#65 Apr 29, 2009
marinofan13 wrote:
<quoted text>Woodstrock, welcome back from the netherworld for the second time! Why aren't you posting more frequently, bud? I, for one, think you bring much to the table in a positive fashion. What's up?!
Thanks marinofan13. Just been laying low waiting for the draft... I don't know about you, but I'm ready for the season to start NOW!
kbinva

Washington, DC

#66 Apr 29, 2009
Pat White is Michael Vick WITHOUT the baggage. I've seen the guy play and he CAN play ball!

Overall, Miami did well in this draft. Maybe if some of the whiny crybabies would shut their yaps, we can all sit back and watch a much improved Dolphins team compete.
harriet

Mount Dora, FL

#67 Apr 29, 2009
in 3 years I predict White will be our starting QB and our offense will be 90% wildcat.

gone are the days of the pocket passer and 9 players on the field (with the QB and FB being useless positions)

with the wildcat all 11 players are threats and the defense cannot do a damn thing to stop it.
legio13

Miami, FL

#69 Apr 29, 2009
Renaldo wrote:
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Bust! Are you serious? A bust is when you draft Yatil Green and he makes no contributation to this team at all. Or drafting J.J. Johnson or Jamar Fletcher. I like Vernon Carey but I would prefer to have Bob Sanders or Vince Wilfork in the 2004 draft.
Ah...Yatil Green was no bust...he blew out his knee like two or three times...he was unfortunate but not a bust. Using your logic, we could label Adrian Peterson and Peyton Manning as busts if they blew out their knees in their rookie camps.

Jamar Fletcher, John Avery, Eddie Moore,Jackie Shipp, Eric Kumerow are busts.
I trust the Tuna

United States

#70 Apr 29, 2009
Parcells knows football and is turning this team around. Parcells knows football and knows what he is doing. I trust his draft picks and am excited about Pat White. This kid is the real deal. Ask Georgia and Oklahoma!!! He is not a basket case and will fit in very nicely with Parcells et. al. Watch the Phins over the next couple of years. Superbowl bound baby!!
ralphthedolphan

Falls Church, VA

#71 Apr 29, 2009
JET FAN wrote:
It's the big red pimple on Parcells nose that i'm concerned about.
yeah, it probably looks a lot like the one on the head of you wanker.
BornLiveDie DOLFAN

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#72 Apr 29, 2009
LET'S GO!!!
john

United States

#73 Apr 29, 2009
I don't see how this will help at all really. Whenever the Dolphins sub in White, the opposing defense will know they are going to run the wildcat. It might do ok a few times in the reg season, but not in the playoffs.
I dont doubt he is a good player though, and think the dolphins did a good job in the draft overall.
WVU season tix holder

Baltimore, MD

#74 Apr 29, 2009
Time will tell and I definitely have a bias, but I think Fins fans (count me amongst the recent converts) will be amazed that White didn't get picked up in Round 1 after a year or two of Pat on the field. Let's just say Parcells, as a football genius, knows when he sees a kindred spirit...
TheJoey

Winter Park, FL

#75 Apr 29, 2009
john wrote:
I don't see how this will help at all really. Whenever the Dolphins sub in White, the opposing defense will know they are going to run the wildcat. It might do ok a few times in the reg season, but not in the playoffs.
I dont doubt he is a good player though, and think the dolphins did a good job in the draft overall.
How do you cover the run and the pass when it comes from the wildcat formation?- Especially when the Offensive Line is healthy.

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale

#76 Apr 29, 2009
Formfactor wrote:
I thought Michael Vick was supposed to revolutionize the NFL. Or Vince Young. Or Randall Cunningham. No wait, it was Kordell "Slash" Stewart.
This is an absolutely ridiculous topic. The Wildcat is a gimmick that worked extremely well because no one had seen it before and preparing for it over the course of a season is nigh unto impossible to do. But now defensive coordinators will have had a full offseason to examine and prepare for it. More importantly, the Pats will have had a full offseason to prepare for it. If history's an indicator Bellichick, more than anybody, will have designed an equally puzzling defense to put the kibosh on the Wildcat. And let's not forget Rex Ryan now of the Jets whose Raven defense did a spectacular job of stifling the wildcat.
It's beyond absurd to think that a 6 foot something rookie QB will revolutionize a game that has and will always come down to the battles in the trenches between offensive and defensive linemen.
Difference one, all the before mentioned players where QB's and didnt run the option. Difference two, defenses moved the safty way up to play against the wildcat because they usually ran the ball (I know they scored two touchdowns passing the ball out of the wildcat). White gives the team alot of options and will keep defenses guessing and hopefully keep teams from stacking the box. Can you really call this offense a gimmick when a team runs it consistantly and effectively?

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale

#77 Apr 29, 2009
john wrote:
I don't see how this will help at all really. Whenever the Dolphins sub in White, the opposing defense will know they are going to run the wildcat. It might do ok a few times in the reg season, but not in the playoffs.
I dont doubt he is a good player though, and think the dolphins did a good job in the draft overall.
Teams knew we were running the wildcat when Chad ran for the sidelines. White can come on the field and line up in a slot position and not be in the wild cat. White gives the team options and hopefully keeps defenses guessing as to what play they are going to run. It proved it work last year. They had an increase of 2 yard average per play in the wildcat formation.
Jaison Biagini

Mckeesport, PA

#78 Apr 29, 2009
a lot of people think this draft missed the boat, i'm not one of them. secondary was our defensive weakness. there were too many options before we got to the qb to sack him. maybe with a revamped secondary we will get to the qb more often. also our 2 rookies from last year should be even better playing d-line this year. we can still get a decent ng in fa when more players get cut.

i do love the pat white pick!! i could see him and henne being the 1st truly successful qb duo. most teams use 2 rb's now, i don't see why 2 qb's can't both be used. especially if white can play wr/qb and be on the field on most snaps. i wish pennington luck, but he doesn't really fit in the offense that we will be using this season. henne is bigger, stronger and faster. if he can run and catch he will be more than just a decoy when brown or white get behind center. i've never been more excited to the the fins play!! they may not win 11 games this year but they will be crazy to watch!! i'd bet that at least 30% of the snaps will be wildcat!!
DC Dolphan

Boston, MA

#79 Apr 29, 2009
Can we offically change the name of the "Wildcat" to the "Wildphin"? It's ours, Sprano & co should own it....
Sean

Bristow, VA

#80 Apr 29, 2009
Jimmy D wrote:
"Belacheat had his eye on White and it was well documented all you have to do is go back to the combine on nfl network and they were talking about Bills interest in White"
^^ Well thank god. I mean, NOBODY plays the deception card before the draft. Good thing it was 'well documented'. So that EVERYONE knew including the DOLPHINS about the pats wanting Pat White. Riiiiiiiight.
My point is if the Patriots really wanted him instead of the NT they would have picked him. Obviously they thought the NT was the better player/more important to their franchise. If they thought Pat White was 'the real deal'. They wouldn't have taken that chance.
Like I said, I like the pick. Personally I love stock piling QB's w/ talent. I am sick of throwing all our chips behind one QB, and then we he doesn't work out we have to wait another year or two to draft and develope him.
You mean the way the jets threw all there chips in on Sanchez. I know there is deception no doult but the pats needed a backup QB and White was the best QB left on the board and on top of that he can run and catch. Bill and Co know what they are doing and I will defend what they are doing because I respect them and the proof is in the putting, 1-15 TO 11-5 division champs says it all. The wild cat worked for awhile but it became one dementional because teams knew we were not going to pass that much so they crowded the line and stoped the run. We ran the ball 95% of the time out of the wildcat and I can only remenber throwing the ball out of it twice(once against NE and a pitch back to penn to Cobb in the houston game. That option is now in play with White so we will see a three dementional wildgat for the first time. If it is a gimmick than it will not work but if it does work the sky is the limit for us and look out for the rest of the afc east.
Sean

Bristow, VA

#81 Apr 29, 2009
I here we are in a bidding war with the pats and bucs over JT we have the inside track on him because of geograthy but the pats will try to take him. If he goes to the bucs that would be ok with me, I would like to see him on the dolphins team but if we get outbidded by the bucs I will be fine with that but if he goes to the patsys I will be pissed. I would burn his jerseys and would not consider him a dolphin any longer, The pats are the enemy...... there is no justifacation for him to go to the patsys but to stick it to us....... I know he will do the right thing because he is a good guy. I met him three yrs ago and he gave me and my boy a minute of his pressous time. I consider him one of the best players in dolphin history and know he can bring alot to the table and Bill and Co know it to so get ready for #99 to be back with us real soon.
waterboy

Key Largo, FL

#82 Apr 29, 2009
Having Pat W. active for Game Day saves a roster spot. He can be the back up Q.B. and still go out and play WR/RB. Not just stand on the sidelines w/ a clip board.
Rick on the Beach

Miami Beach, FL

#83 Apr 29, 2009
Yea its all sounds great but the guy is very skinny and very doubtful that he can take an NFL hit on a regular basis. According to Scouts Inc, White had some durability issues throughout collegiate career. Missed one game (Syracuse) as a senior due to head injury. Missed time during the previous three seasons (2005-'07) with an array of injuries, including ribs, turf toe, high ankle sprain, shoulder, strained neck and mild concussion.

Truth be told, this guy might not make it out of TC.

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