'Joe the Plumber' in media cross hairs

'Joe the Plumber' in media cross hairs

There are 1616 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Oct 18, 2008, titled 'Joe the Plumber' in media cross hairs. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The eyes of Joe the Plumber stare sightlessly from the media pike that his head has been impaled upon.

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On The Money

Columbus, OH

#1546 Oct 28, 2008
SueJean wrote:
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Seriously, are you really that dense? It's talking about families UNDER the $250,000.00 income level and those families ABOVE. He does not say anything about businesses and corporation. Hell, my brother makes over $250,000.00 a year and he does NOT own a business and corporation.
That link is talking about HIM, not a business or corporation.
Your brother if still single might see a tax increase. I believe the point of change is $200,000 for individuals.
Maybe you and the next president and congress can work out the details being that you have an interest in the increase while I come nowhere near that economic level. We make together in the 60k to 80k range and both work at large companies, hers medical, mine technologies.
We'll get the tax credit in that economic range.
Your FUD may damage your health. Is your private health care plan adequate coverage?
On The Money

Columbus, OH

#1547 Oct 28, 2008
Jonathan wrote:
Both McBama voted for the BAILOUT.
That should be enough for everybody !!
http://www.nolanchart.com/article5127.html
They sure did!
However they hardly ever agree on other issues as is obvious from this thread.
Maybe one of the other candidates will win. I doubt it though.
On The Money

Columbus, OH

#1548 Oct 28, 2008
SueJean wrote:
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Where does McCain say that he wants continuous wars? I have never seen nor heard him say that and if you have, I would like you to post the proof...otherwise, it's B.S.
What? There were no WMDs?? Gee, guess someone should have told Colin Powell that before he sold the idea to the U.N.. Remember when that happened or did you conveniently forget since Powell has endorsed Obama?
I realize that McCain is for us to continue our presence in Iraq until the multinationals seal the deals. This will take some time so the war will go on for a long time.
Powell of course is a Republican who is voting for Obama. Otherwise you would not bring up his name.
Joe the American

Brooklyn, NY

#1549 Oct 28, 2008
Pete The Mechanic wrote:
I thought this was a free country where every citizen had a right to an opinion. It's getting scary - and Obama isn't president yet. What Joe forgot was that nobody should dare to criticize Obama. This race has become disgusting and scary. This isn't Cuba where a citizen will be lynched for speaking against their leader. Or maybe it is...
Are you retarded?
Seriously?
Obama is criticized 24/7. Just turn on fox, or listen to talk radio.
You can't blame him, for reporters, doing research on Joe (Sam) The (Unlicensed) Plumber. Whom BTW, is a big f'n liar, in my humble AMERICAN opinion.
I mean hell, this week it's all guns a blazing against Obama. IN-FACT!....
Joe the F'N Plumber was asked today by an elderly Jewish fellow {I believe while on the Stump with McCain} "Is a vote for Obama a vote for the death of Israel" and good old Joe The Plumber said; "YES".
Which IMO, is appauling and disgusting. His commens shold be denounced by McCain {they won't be though}.
Yes, ths race has gotten ugly.. But most of the perverse stuff, is coming from the right./FACT
And I'm not an Obama supporter, just a regular old American.
On The Money

Columbus, OH

#1550 Oct 28, 2008
SueJean wrote:
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Honestly, it doesn't matter what Joe could do and what he couldn't do. He asked a question of the "Messiah" and there should be NOTHING wrong with that. It's is Obama's camp, the MSM, and people like YOU that has made it a horrible thing to ask Obama a question.
How would you feel if you had asked McCain a question about his health care and because the nation heard McCain's answer they became scared and to take focus off of his answer, YOU were raked over the coals? Put the shoe on the other foot for once and try and see how you would feel. Is it THAT hard to do????
Because you are not a realist. You claim that Obama is the Messiah. You claim that it does not matter the context of the conversation but matters that a few words from the conversation taken out of context make it so.
The fact that joe did not have the resources to possibly buy the business, he did not care what Obama answered just as you and your Clan of ripoffagains always demonstrate.
To me it does not matter that Joe exists or that an excerpt was taken out of context and is being used for FUD purposes. It is just you cannot see that the view is his question or the excerpt are propaganda and do not matter at all. Whether he is a plumber or not does not matter to me. his driving record, vehicle he drives, his marital status or whatever.
His comment that Obama tap danced like Sammy Davis JR pretty much explains his intent for conversation.
On The Money

Columbus, OH

#1551 Oct 28, 2008
Econ 101 wrote:
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I guess those dead Kurds and Iranians that wree killed with chemical weapons would also disagree.
And why were they in a situation where WMDs were used? It was due to their help followed by abandonment from the Kuwait conflict.
It does give some reason to ensure Iraq is stable before we leave. The WMDs are not there and the other forces are capable of handling it from here.
VoteVets org

Shirley, NY

#1552 Oct 28, 2008
CNN’s Campbell Brown just married a Bush Republican Neo-Con Dan Senor who was in charge of PR in Iraq. Dan Senor was the little guy always standing next to a General giving a press conference making sure the General says the right things.

CNN the corporate news network hired another Neo-Con political hack.

Glen Beck ( Rush Jr.) is a raving right wing lunatic always pro corporation.

Gloria Borger despises the Clintons and Democrats.

Wolf Blitzer is a former Israeli lobbyist and still a Republican.

CNN's Howard Kurtz is a Republican and his wife is a high priced Republican lobbyist in Washington DC.

Paula Zahn is a Republican and a very close friend of the Bush family.

Jim Clancy Republican loyalist liar for CNN

CNN’s DARYN KAGAN WAS RUSH “FROM DRUGS” LYING CORPORATIST LIMBAUGH’S GIRLFRIEND.

Rush "From Drugs" Lying Corporatist Limbaugh will have you believe CNN is liberal.

As American media is controlled by that corporate America which provides us with political candidates a well-informed electorate is not possible.$$$$$$$
VoteVets org

Shirley, NY

#1553 Oct 28, 2008
OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 1 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/4j8qza
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 2 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/3vxkbk
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 3 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/3kxnhm
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 4 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/3ehy3f
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

Outfoxed: The War on Journalism part 5 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/4pzfz5
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 6 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/3jsxfk
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 7 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/3eunfx
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 8 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/3t7jxr
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

Palin Supporters' Strange World
http://tinyurl.com/53h7ot
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...

Mom, Why Do You Want Me to Go to Iraq?
http://tinyurl.com/437pnn
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...

The Sidewalk to Nowhere, McCain Supporters in Bethlehem, PA
http://tinyurl.com/4dexd9
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...

Tell McCain to End the Politics of Hate
http://tinyurl.com/3g7zmj


Vote Vets Speaking Truth To Power
http://tinyurl.com/4d6csm
http://www.youtube.com/votevets
On The Money

Columbus, OH

#1554 Oct 28, 2008
LEGALLY Registered wrote:
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Will someone tell this guy that Bush isn't running!!
ATTENTION: Bush is not running this time. It is McCain, the guy that proudly boasted that he voted with Bush over 90% of the time.
On The Money

Columbus, OH

#1555 Oct 28, 2008
VoteVets org wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush Republicans are not conservative and Clinton Democrats are not liberal.
They work for Wall Street and K-Street not Main Street.
You are right on the money with that information.
We have one chameleon changing his stance according to the wind another who may be more pro business than is apparent from our perspectives.

“Jan. 20th, God help us all!!”

Since: Sep 08

Clearwater, FL

#1556 Oct 28, 2008
On The Money wrote:
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The attacks were staged by the Bush administration to further their agenda. They rigged the whole thing up, insured theirselves against financial losses, destroyed documents related to Enron, killed innocent people and you all believe it was a genuine terrorist attack.
It was planned and staged by the Bush administration.
Are you freakin' kidding me with this? Do you really truly believe what you typed? Are you psycho????? Do you really believe that there is no Al-Qaeda, no Taliban and no Osama Bin Laden?
YOU ARE SICK!!!!

I can not believe that people like you exist. Go back to wherever it is you came from. How dare you say that the Bush Admin planned this. You are a disgrace to our country!!!!!

“Jan. 20th, God help us all!!”

Since: Sep 08

Clearwater, FL

#1557 Oct 28, 2008
On The Money wrote:
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It was not a free handout! It was a loan with a teaser rate where it was affordable for the first two years. Then after the teaser rate expired the rates would skyrocket. People in these loans counted on the market to keep going up as it did not. They could refinance later into a fixed rate loan.
Good you you that you passed up these predatory loans. A lot of people did not. The loan companies could forgo limited interest rate returns since the plan of higher home values did not pan out for another five or so years. Of course they are not going to do this voluntarily.
Do we buy all of these loans from the companies that originated them at full value? Do we buy the loans at pennies on the dollar and modify the terms to fixed rates? Do we remove the anti-modification protection that lenders who made these loans count on so that the poorly termed loans can be modified by BK judges? Do we abandon the homes, burn them to the ground or what?
It was not illegal for these loans to be marketed. By your admittance they were loans which you and your spouse passed on.
Foreclosures are rising daily and will continue to happen as long as nothing is done to rectify the problem. It is inescapable with the current lack of regulation allowing these types of loans. The problem will worsen once the interest rates for these loans start to increase.
Whatever your view on being able to pass on these types of loans, many have not passed on these loans. They are not maintainable for the duration of the loan periods.
McCain says he'll buy up these loans and modify them. I would like to believe this, however I believe that he is of the same mindset as many on this thread, screw America, I have my riches! People don't need homes to live in.
After your last comment, stooping as low as you, did, I have nothing more to say to you. You are slime and therefore will be ignored from this moment forward!!

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#1558 Oct 28, 2008
VoteVets org wrote:
OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 1 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/4j8qza
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 2 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/3vxkbk
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 3 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/3kxnhm
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 4 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/3ehy3f
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
Outfoxed: The War on Journalism part 5 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/4pzfz5
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 6 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/3jsxfk
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 7 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/3eunfx
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism pt 8 of 8
http://tinyurl.com/3t7jxr
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
Palin Supporters' Strange World
http://tinyurl.com/53h7ot
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...
Mom, Why Do You Want Me to Go to Iraq?
http://tinyurl.com/437pnn
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...
The Sidewalk to Nowhere, McCain Supporters in Bethlehem, PA
http://tinyurl.com/4dexd9
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...
Tell McCain to End the Politics of Hate
http://tinyurl.com/3g7zmj
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =U5mdIPNB8t8XX
Vote Vets Speaking Truth To Power
http://tinyurl.com/4d6csm
http://www.youtube.com/votevets
Again Moveon? Do you get paid by the post or the link?
On The Money

Columbus, OH

#1559 Oct 28, 2008
SueJean wrote:
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How many times have you posted sites that are nothing more than someone's analysis?? So, your posts siting analysis' are right and our are wrong?
Are you ALWAYS a hypocrite, or just when it suits your agenda????
McCain's proposal to foul up company provided medical care is a bad proposal. My view on the issue that the proposal is damaging to working Americans with company provided medical care. There is nothing Hypocritical about stating the obvious. His ideas are bad. Maybe he will have better plans once he runs again in 2012.
On The Money

Columbus, OH

#1560 Oct 28, 2008
Eileen wrote:
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OTM - Thank you for doing your homework - you are partly correct! Sales tax in ENTIRE Cook County is 10.25 percent (PLUS). The surrounding counties are averaging 7.25 to as high as 8. I do not know of any county less than 7.25. That money that you and I pay in sales tax is money that we have earned POST income tax. So ... it's been taxed twice (more like fifteen times if you would like to look at the entire economics of taxation). The CTA is a mess. The democrat who runs the city, the democrat who runs the state and the democrats who have the power to increase sales taxes here have all done a great job of increasing taxes without looking at perhaps cuts in government spending. It was very easy for them and their family members (who are employed by the machine) to raise taxes, raise salaries and do little to nothing at looking at the fat salaries and budgets.
Obama never once spoke out against these high taxes in his hometown of Chicago. Much has been revealed about city officials who work maybe half the day - and lounge the other half. Nothing has been done about the corruption and wasteful spending. NOTHING !! These facts lend me to believe that Obama thinks that Chicago is run well. Are there any Chicagoans who think Chicago is run well? Please speak out!
The answer is not increasing taxes every time you have a budget problem. Most often the budget problem is wasteful spending.
I don't see why it is permitted to run both sales taxes and also state taxes. Some states are funded totally by sales taxes like the right to be poor states of TN and FL. Sales taxes are a bad idea in my view. State taxes are bad too but are easier to account for and deduct from your Federal tax forms.
Regarding the wasted spending to reduce costs. They do have to reduce waste and excessive salaries that consume funds without adding to services.
Good luck! The answer is not getting Republicans in of course. We had a Republican in office before our current governor and he was always raising taxes, wasting money. It is not a partisan issue, they both are bad in that regard.
Out of curiousity, who is replacing Obama once he is elected President? Democratic or Republican?
Eileen

Crystal Lake, IL

#1561 Oct 28, 2008
Everyone needs to read this again: Sorry Willy, I am stealing your material!

Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a 'Obama 08' tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside.

The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more.

The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application and you can't swallow it when it's your money that is being redistributed.
Tess

Hamilton, Canada

#1562 Oct 28, 2008
There are few things sadder than an old fool. Country First-Houston TX; John McCain, Ted Stevens et al lack wisdom, honesty, integrity and knowledge. You don't seem able to look past rumors and fear-mongering myths about Senator Obama. McCain has gone from being a little bit respected in the Senate to being an embarrassment to his family and his supporters. He's no reformer or maverick, he's always been a rebellious punk who never listened to anyone else. He was a bad student, pilot and Senator, but you'll go to your grave believing you did the right thing in voting for him. No, make that voting AGAINST Obama; because nobody in their right mind would vote for the alcoholic, adulterous gambler who pals around with terrorist Gordon Liddy and others.
My grandfather and father both evolved into wise, loving, caring men in their senior years, but I haven't seen much of it from the Republicans.

How very sad for your children and grandchildren to have a narrow-minded, frightened bigot for a grandfather. A man who has no interest in studying the two candidates; too lazy to check out the FACTS and ignore the lies and rhetoric from the right.

SAD.....

Since: Sep 08

Lisle IL

#1563 Oct 28, 2008
On The Money wrote:
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I looked at the sales taxes for your state and noticed that overall throughout your state the rates are 6 to 8 percent except for some cities in cook county. The rates seem to be higher in the Chicago and surrounding cities. With some cities which fall in multiple counties the tax rates vary greatly from county to county.
You are a big city with better public transportation than a lot of cities. Your taxes of course will be higher, especially if you pay for seniors to get around cheaply or for free. We have a bus system and that is it. Our city taxes are only 6.75% because of this. We do have tax issues we vote for regarding our limited public transit system. I don't know about how your city votes for sales tax but we have the power to vote no on tax levies.
What solution do you want for lower sales taxes? Lower pay for public transit workers? Increased fares?
Good luck with getting the sales taxes lowered in Cook county. I know that in states where there are no state taxes like Tennessee the sales taxes are rather high.
God strike me with lightning for even coming this close to agreeing w/Eileen, but this is an issue best left alone.....that's just some friendly advice.

Since: Oct 08

Pompano Beach, FL

#1564 Oct 28, 2008
liberals are so vile and mislead. And the nerve to use Christianity.

Since: Oct 08

Pompano Beach, FL

#1565 Oct 28, 2008
obama' got no slave blood

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