Keratin hair straightening is flat-out fabulous for the formerl...

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Orlando

AOL

#30 Oct 13, 2007
So you had it tested? What are the ingredients in Coppolas Keratin Complex? Does anyone know?
Maya

United States

#31 Oct 13, 2007
I have done several things for my very- curly- to -the- point- of- frizzy -in- the- front hair. I always used SLS free shampoo and all natural alcohol-free conditioner for along time and I do not blow dry or use heat on my hair. I let it air dry and then fluff it a bit with fingers. I like curly hair but mine is really frizzy and dry in the front. The back is fine - soft curls. Still, the front of head is WILD. I have used relaxers in the past to "calm it down" but those are chemicals and cause the hair to break off. The stylist used gloves but did not wear a mask. I did not notice any smell at all - and still don't. I have worked in formaldehyde before - lab and morgue - and am familiar with the smell. It is very strong and I didn't smell anything. Also, it's used in a lot of stuff in our homes - particle board furniture, glue, adhesives, insulation, cigarettes, cosmetics, permanent press clothing and linens, fertilizer, paper, antiseptics, even medications and food preservatives. My point is that formaldehyde is everywhere and we have all been exposed to it and still are! It breaks down rather quickly so I doubt that the amount that might be in this product - if there is any, is a significant health concern but that is just my opinion. I am not concerned. I haven't seen a lot of pathologists dropping dead from cancer and they are working with that stuff every day for years!

The stylist is very experienced and is certified to use the product. I was told that it used some kind of polymer or something to make the keratin bond to the hair shaft. As far as know, formaldehyde's only other name is methanal but I did not examine the label myself but will do so when I go back for color in a couple of weeks.
barb

Davenport, FL

#32 Oct 13, 2007
I saw an advertisement for Brazilian keratin hair therapy in Tampa, Fl. What is the difference between that and keratin treatment by coppola? Is ok for people with medium textured hair & what is the usual cost for this??? my hair is thick and frizzy on top. I have tried relaxers in the past, I usually put it in rollers because it is thick. I used a flat iron recently and it looked good but next time I did my hair without the flat iron it was horrible....any advice is appreciated.
Orlando

AOL

#33 Oct 14, 2007
There is no difference. The Coppola has some form of formaldehide in it too. There is a ton of names for formaldehide. I dont think it is a big deal, if it works and if stylist uses it right. I heard that some stylists are using fume extractors to keep the air clean. Thats the kind of stylist I want to go to. It means they are smart enough to protect themselves. after all, they are the ones who work with it all the time. Salons should provide them for the stylists or a stylist should refuse to do it. They all have something toxic in a way so the stylists should be protected.
Maya

United States

#34 Oct 14, 2007
As far as I know, the Brazilian has formaldehyde and smells really bad and stylists were getting sick from the fumes. They say the Coppola product does not have formaldehyde and I know it has no smell or fumes whatsoever. Again I haven't read the Coppola label.

The stylist I use is from Boca Raton and goes there once a month. That's where she was certified in the Coppola. She actually had the Brazilian herself and said it had a lot of fumes and it gave her a headache. She likes the Coppola much, much better. Both are pretty expensive. She charges $300 for short,$450 for shoulder length and $600 for below the shoulder. I took about three hours and I have short, thin hair. The thicker the hair the longer it takes. Some charge $150 per hour. Also the product itself is very pricey but it's new. Perhaps in time the price will come down.
Maya

United States

#35 Oct 14, 2007
Chris wrote:
Maya,
I'm considering doing the Coppola treatment. I would REALLY appreciate any feedback over the next couple of days, especially after you wash you hair to see how it dries. Where did you get it done? Do you have before and after pics? Is that product really formaldehyde free or did you smell bad fumes and see stylists wearing masks?
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I got it done in Virginia, but the stylist I go to was certified in FL. She works in Boca Raton once a month. Today is the big day for washing it. Will let you know how it turns out!:-)
Orlando

AOL

#36 Oct 14, 2007
I heard that the coppola has a chemical that changes the bonds in the hair. Thr brazilian doesn't. If the hair is not in perfect condition before, the coppola dries it out bad. I guess it all depends on the condition of your hair b4 you start. So some hair works better with coppola, and some work better with the brazilian keratin. Good thing there are choices. I also read in the allure article that there is black market stuff out there. Stylists shouldn't buy stuff that is brought here from brazil, they should use the stuff that is made here.
Maya

United States

#37 Oct 14, 2007
Curly hair is very porous. People with curly hair ahve less keratin in the shaft. Asians, Native Americans,etc. have a lot of keratin. That's why their hair is so shiney and stong. In these relaxers, the keratin fills in the pores and the bonding agent - formaldehyde or whatever, allows the keratin to adhere to the hair shaft.

People used to be in a big whoopla about lye in relaxers, not realizing that regular soap is made from lye. We have been washing with lye for generations. My uncles all lived to be in their nineties using lye soap. Lye + lard=soap! Again, my point is that some stuff sounds scary, but then maybe in very small quantities it's not a big deal. Just my opinion.

Speaking of fumes...what's up with those nail salons and the fake nails fumes?? Are they safe?
Maya

United States

#38 Oct 14, 2007
Well folks, here's the skinny on after the first wash. I waited four days. On the fifth day I washed it with an SLS free shampoo. As I was towel drying I said to myself, hummm, this hair is looking a little WAVY. The more I blotted, the CURLY it started looking. I'm thinking "What the h***?" Long story short, my hair looking sorta shiney but it's just as curly as before the treatment.:-/ Oh well, my husband liked it better curly so at least he's happy! For $300, I should have gotten my teeth whitened (smile)
Orlando

AOL

#39 Oct 15, 2007
So... the Coppola Keratin Complex does not work.
Maya

United States

#40 Oct 15, 2007
Not for me. Has anyone else out there tried it?
liz

Centereach, NY

#41 Oct 15, 2007
I had the keratin complex hair therapy by coppola done on Saturday and not due to wash it till tuesday night (3rd day) and told to use Finesse shampoo. My hair is not curly it is highlighted and fizzy in humid weather because i am going gray. Upon application my eyes got a bit teary but there was no smell. No headache or anything else. My hair is very shiny and feels a bit icky with the product in it. Cannot wait to wash it out. I will keep you posted
liz

Centereach, NY

#42 Oct 15, 2007
Oh i was also told that it has the ingredient aldehyde in it. Not formaldehyde. Not sure of the difference.
Maya

United States

#43 Oct 15, 2007
Thanks Liz,

Low molecular weight aldehydes, e.g., formaldehyde and acetaldehyde, have sharp, unpleasant odors.

Higher molecular weight aldehydes, e.g., benzaldehyde and furfural, have pleasant, often flowery, odors and are found in the essential oils of certain plants. Aldehydes are used for the manufacture of synthetic resins, e.g., bakelite, and for making dyes, flavorings, perfumes, and other chemicals. Some are used as preservatives and disinfectants.
liz

Centereach, NY

#44 Oct 15, 2007
Thanks for that information! So I am sitting here trying to figure out if it is acceptable (health wise for its use in our hair) that Coppola Keratin complex is using aldehyde opposed to formaldehyde ? In your opinion of course..
Caddodle

Boca Raton, FL

#45 Oct 15, 2007
Well one of two secrets to straight hair is to live in a dry climate. Florida is definitely not good if you want stick-straight hair. It frizzes no matter what method you use, whether you wash every day, blow it straight and then use a hot-iron to straighten it out. Go outside, get a warm, humid breeze, and poof - the curls come back ASAP.
The other "secret" is that if your hair is turning grey, the grey hairs are somehow different in texture, and sometimes no matter what you do, they will tend to be curlier than your (formerly) normal straight hair, with color. If that happens, no amount of Clairol will straighten out your hidden-but-grey hair follicles.
The best "secret" I can tell everyone is to move to a cold, dry climate; use a non-alcoholic color additive to your hair (Hydrience black, for example), and wash often, and blow dry. If your hair is meant to be straight then, fine. If not, then go with another style or hope that styles change back to the afro look of the late 60s and early 70s.
I, for one, hope they don't go back to the finger-in-the-light-socket-loo k too soon.
Maya

United States

#46 Oct 15, 2007
I don't think it's any worse for your health than permanent press clothing or particle board furniture, overhead electic, pesticides on strawberries or smog. Aldehyde and formaldehyde or alcohol derivatives. As far as I know, there's nothing CONCLUSIVE that either cause cancer. Only speculation that formaldehyde MIGHT increase your risk. In today's world I think we have to pick our poisons and try not to overdue any one thing. But that's just my opinion. I like the idea of the keritin because it is a natural protein that fills the pores and actually conditions by building it up as opposed to the chemical straightners that damage the hair.

If you have curly/frizzy hair, the hair is naturally dry and I don't agree with washing & blow drying it often. You'll only make the dry problem worse and that leads to more frizz and ultimately damage. Just the opposite, I have found that it's best not to wash it everyday and the blow dryer is a big no-no. I think there are a lot of ways to wear your hair culry without it looking like an afro. I was interested in the straightening more or less for a change.
Mia

Delray Beach, FL

#47 Oct 15, 2007
I have very curly hair but it's all frizzy. Frizzy hair is not pretty that's why in my case i'm considering the kerating Complex.
Mia

Delray Beach, FL

#48 Oct 15, 2007
From what I hear the Keratin Complex is NOT a straightner, it's a relaxer. So if Maya's hair is not frizzy, it worked.
Mia

Delray Beach, FL

#49 Oct 15, 2007
Someone mentioned going to the Naturallycurly.com website. What products have you used or where do I look once i'm at the website. There are many things to click and I don't know where to look first. Any suggestions?

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