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Amazed

United States

#1 Mar 28, 2014
Thanks for doing the right thing!
Agreed

Agawam, MA

#2 Mar 28, 2014
Our elected officials chose to exercise the voice of the people and the true meaning of what an elected official should represent. I am proud to know my votes mean something when these officials are hard pressed to represent the majority. Thank you and keep up the good work.
mad member

Hamden, CT

#3 Mar 28, 2014
As much as they did the right thing, I don't think it sunk in. Last night, there was a call for an overturned vehicle. When the rescue got on scene I heard "rescue 1 and chief 2 on scene". now, there was no election done that night for someone else to get chief 2. and just guess at who was in the passenger seat of the rescue? None other than Shane henry. aparently he doesn't care that they told him he can't be a chief. He is still going to do it anyways.
old timer

Tupper Lake, NY

#4 Mar 28, 2014
Mr Henry can ride in the vehicles whether he is a chief or not. For all those who are happy with the village vote what are you going to do when the older members are no longer around and you are dependant on younger members. I supposed after a vote next Thursday by the department you will find something wrong with those elected. Apparently there are those who don't like any one in a position of authority. At least the department can vote on the civil officers and not be over ruled.
Radio

Agawam, MA

#5 Mar 28, 2014
I hope whether or not he agrees with the village board decision that he would not communicate over an emergency device and represent a position that he his not warranted.

If so, that reflects serious ethical conflicts.

If all of this conflict continues it is only opening up the bay doors wider for village take over. Our elected officials have taken a stance, I think it's best people start respecting this board.
mad member

Hamden, CT

#6 Mar 28, 2014
old timer wrote:
Mr Henry can ride in the vehicles whether he is a chief or not. For all those who are happy with the village vote what are you going to do when the older members are no longer around and you are dependant on younger members. I supposed after a vote next Thursday by the department you will find something wrong with those elected. Apparently there are those who don't like any one in a position of authority. At least the department can vote on the civil officers and not be over ruled.
Its not that he rode in the truck, or that he called the unit on scene that is the problem. It is that in the transmission he said "chief2 on scene". Who is chief 2? It was Rodger,Bruce, mark, and Shane that rode in that truck. Apparently one of the others in the truck must have been elected without knowledge of the department.
omfg

Newington, CT

#7 Mar 28, 2014
Hes still a chief until the position is filled at the meeting. Read the bylaws. Ignorance of the by laws is no excuse to be on here saying stuff
Amazed

United States

#8 Mar 28, 2014
omfg wrote:
Hes still a chief until the position is filled at the meeting. Read the bylaws. Ignorance of the by laws is no excuse to be on here saying stuff
Since he wasn't approved by the board, he's not the 2nd asst...
mad member

Hamden, CT

#10 Mar 28, 2014
omfg wrote:
Hes still a chief until the position is filled at the meeting. Read the bylaws. Ignorance of the by laws is no excuse to be on here saying stuff
You are correct, had he been approved by the village board. However, he was not. Therefore, he is not a cheif. at the next regularly scheduled fire dept. Meeting there will be another election to decide a different person. Coincidentally next meeting just happens to be the normal election month. Being as he was not approved six days beforehand, it would be a pretty dumb idea to run him again.
Amazed

United States

#11 Mar 28, 2014
old timer wrote:
Mr Henry can ride in the vehicles whether he is a chief or not. For all those who are happy with the village vote what are you going to do when the older members are no longer around and you are dependant on younger members. I supposed after a vote next Thursday by the department you will find something wrong with those elected. Apparently there are those who don't like any one in a position of authority. At least the department can vote on the civil officers and not be over ruled.
Old Timer, just run someone that doesn't have a criminal history, that hasn't been involved in questionable disappearances of fuel and equipment, the public won't care. Keep putting up nominees with criminal history and the village board will have to act. It's really that simple, the people that put forth this individual knew it was going to be an uphill battle.
omfg

Newington, CT

#12 Mar 28, 2014
Yes he is until the elections, besides the fire department has not adopted the village by laws yet, thats still up in the air so their approval dont matter, when the the by laws are adopted and the village board takes the required fire commissioners classes, then they can tell the fire department what to do
Amazed

United States

#13 Mar 28, 2014
Omfg, The village doesn't care if dept adopts or not. Your thought process is wrong the sooner you learn that the better off the dept will be. The village is in control and you'd be best to just let this one go. The public will not support the dept if this guy is in office. I applaud the village fathers for not being intimidated by select members! Great job, Mayor Clarke, Trustee's: Alexander, Snyder, Souva and Parker!!
mad member

Hamden, CT

#14 Mar 28, 2014
Actually, if you read into state law, the village has had control since the departments inception. They backed off for many years because things were going good and they really wernt needed. but due to many of the recent problems, they have decided to take more of a role once again. And being as the village has always had control, they do not need the department to adopt the rules.
omfg

Charlestown, MA

#15 Mar 28, 2014
Yeah whateve, they still need to take a fire commissioners course before their heads get too big on what they can and can't do
old timer

Tupper Lake, NY

#16 Mar 28, 2014
There seems to be a difference of opinion the new by laws,village says that the bylaws approved or agreed to by the dept. and village are in effect and those that are not in agreement are to be discussed at a future meeting. Also please note that the department had no choice in these bylaws as the law says the village is in charge. It may come to the point if we follow all the laws the village tax payers will be paying for the new truck and other things, so if you say any thing tread lightly it may comeback to bite you. Let the department make better choices and make sure the elected officers are qualified. Remember everyone has skeletons in their closet. We are not all perfect. I have heard that the officer was not approved because he didn't meet the qualifications for chief or assistant. We may never know as the Board went into executive session which they can on employment matters.
Executive

Agawam, MA

#17 Mar 28, 2014
Executive session is meant to protect personal matters. They did the right thing by going into executive session. But honestly nothing is a secret, the arrest records are public. If the dept would just follow simple ethics and respect to basic dept law this would all stop.

It has been stated so many times... Clean up your house before the Brotherhood steps into help.

Come on Copenhagen....Please... Clean your house!
old timer

Tupper Lake, NY

#18 Mar 28, 2014
In times when it is to find firefighters or those who wish to join the department does the best we can.a lso take note that only the village checks the chiefs and officers on that side not the other officers for administration. The law so states so . You'll next wants background check on everyone older and new members. What they did in the past doesn't effect their work in fighting fires. When thea larm rings they respond. This is more than I can say for most of the people that post on here.
member

Hamden, CT

#19 Mar 28, 2014
old timer wrote:
In times when it is to find firefighters or those who wish to join the department does the best we can.a lso take note that only the village checks the chiefs and officers on that side not the other officers for administration. The law so states so . You'll next wants background check on everyone older and new members. What they did in the past doesn't effect their work in fighting fires. When thea larm rings they respond. This is more than I can say for most of the people that post on here.
Actually, we already do background checks on new members. Part of the application. And what some of the members have done in the past stays right there, in the past. They have done their time and lived it down. There are few to no problems with them. However some have just recently comited their crimes, and some still do so on a regular basis. Those are the people that the village and members who care have a problem with. Once they clean up their act, and earn the respect of others can they be put into office without all of this commotion. And Shane is far from "the best the department can do". Maby you didn't realize that another member ran against him? One that hasn't had any run ins with the law, one that makes time to check equipment, get his training, help others in the dept, and actually wants to better the fire dept. for what it is meant to do-serve the community. But can't have that, he isn't on the drill team or one of the 'clan'.
Wrong Time Old Timer

United States

#20 Mar 28, 2014
old timer wrote:
In times when it is to find firefighters or those who wish to join the department does the best we can.a lso take note that only the village checks the chiefs and officers on that side not the other officers for administration. The law so states so . You'll next wants background check on everyone older and new members. What they did in the past doesn't effect their work in fighting fires. When thea larm rings they respond. This is more than I can say for most of the people that post on here.
Old Timer, your wrong there WERE many good members that have just left due to the direction the department has gone. I can name names, Lucas, Fazio, Doyle, Alexander, Groff, Cooper, Simmons after Simmons after Simmons, Green, StLouis after StLouis after StLouis, Mundy, Lortie, I can keep going if you'd like. The department spent thousands of dollars to protect against thievery from some of its own members. Everyone knows it, its the pink elephant in the room, you know it too. He is not to be in a leadership role with his criminal history its that simple. Now its time for this to be put to sleep and move forward with officers the board, the public and department can agree on.
Philosphy

United States

#21 Mar 28, 2014
old timer wrote:
There seems to be a difference of opinion the new by laws,village says that the bylaws approved or agreed to by the dept. and village are in effect and those that are not in agreement are to be discussed at a future meeting. Also please note that the department had no choice in these bylaws as the law says the village is in charge. It may come to the point if we follow all the laws the village tax payers will be paying for the new truck and other things, so if you say any thing tread lightly it may comeback to bite you. Let the department make better choices and make sure the elected officers are qualified. Remember everyone has skeletons in their closet. We are not all perfect. I have heard that the officer was not approved because he didn't meet the qualifications for chief or assistant. We may never know as the Board went into executive session which they can on employment matters.
Old Timer, your philosophy is already wrong! The taxpayer is already paying for that new truck. Yours guys fund raising would never cover that expense

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