Rooftop Highway would bring many changes

Dec 1, 2008 | Posted by: Trumpeterny | Full story: www.pressrepublican.com

The Northern Tier Expressway proposal is the subject of public hearings planned for 7 p.m. Wednesday at the Franklin County Courthouse in Malone and 7 p.m. Thursday at Clinton County Emergency Services.

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sayheykid

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Dec 1, 2008
 
I'm interested in the Village aspect of this as far as the islands in the center are concerned. Is there a more specific descriptionor diagram that could be presented so that I could actually look at the proposal. Anyone know?

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Dec 1, 2008
 
sayhey i agree they should publish the plans so everyone can see where it will be built and what impact it will have bypassing many of the small towns it claims it will miss.
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Dec 1, 2008
 

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so are they going to build it or is it just another proposal? i think it would traveling west alot easier. i would go that way to florida if it was built. i hate the slow trip up rt. 11. but the monnets would have to build new gas stations.
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Dec 1, 2008
 
Never happen. They said they would get in done back in the 60s too. The federal money always goes somewhere else. DC doesn't give a rat's furry can about the North Country or its problems. They never have.
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I have some serious concerns about the rooftop highway. I am sure that I am not the only one who complains from time to time about traffic downtown. But is really not that bad.

Malone exists because it is the intersection of 4 major NYS highways. A highway that goes around Malone will cause tourists and travlers to go around us and that has been an important part of the Malone economy.

We need to attract people to stop at the stores, gas stations, restaurants, and motels in Mslone.
We need to bring people here not find an easy way to let them go around us.

Since: Nov 08

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I read up on the proposal and I'd be very concerned if they pushed this through. The impact on the communities this would be going through would be an immense and from all I read none of it in a good way. Let's get our heads out of ground folks, it wouldn't be a "let's make things a faster drive". It would be a high traffic corridor through a very quite rural area. Too much development, higher crime rates and higher taxes! Not to mention when you read the proposal of where the new Interstate "98" would go, it follows close to Rt 11 for most of it's route. They want to build it beside Rt 11. How do the land owners all along the south side of Rt 11 feel about that? That they'll lose a 200 ft wide section of their property to emanate domain. I've traveled rt 11 all my life and never have I see it crowded to the point of needing a interstate upgrade. Many times and places, you may not even see another car traveling without sight.

What really irks me, how the city folks downstate who see our area as their vacation get away area so forcefully objected to and continue to object to the wind power that's come in yet are all eager for the very ecologically destructive interstate to be built so they can travel faster. I say everyone should research what this proposal really is, and then attend the meeting to voice their objections. It's time we stopped being NYC's playground!

Since: Aug 08

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Irked, I understand your point, and I don't think I have yet to do as much research on this as you, but this idea has long been a NOrth Country one. It will not just encourage faster travel along the Northern part of NY, but the thought is that it will encourage industry. One of the biggest knocks on our small area is that it can not attract large industries that can provide hundreds of jobs to local workers, therefore keeping the potential for growth of our communties at a minimum. With a "roof top highway", it is hoped that would change. Also, in places like Malone, the Main St. business district has turned into 5 lane highway, making it impossible for people to shop that area comfortably. With the bypasses and such, places like downtown Malone would be able to be rejuvenated.
fred

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Dec 2, 2008
 
i can understand the thought of losing bussiness downtown, but i think the cv. is right about attracting industry. theyre payscale is much higher then working at stewarts. look at the ind. park in plattsburgh. it supplies alot of work. what else is their in malone, prisons? what about retaining our young people who go elsewhere looking for good jobs. along w/ ind. comes management jobs, maybe enough to keep college cert. kids home. i know, we probable wont see any highway to begin w/ so we really dont need to argue this point.

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Dec 3, 2008
 
CV i agree a roundabout bypassing Malone would be a good thing to relieve congestion form downtown. And your right it would bring in more job growth but instead of just building a new highway costing 50% more in the end why not just widen and fix Route 11 and rename it when construction is complete

Since: Aug 08

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Dec 3, 2008
 
I thought that was the plan wasn't it? I don't think they were talking about literally making a brand new highway. I am not able to go that meeting tonight, so any info from anyone who does go is very much appreciated.
fred

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Dec 3, 2008
 
its not going happen. bigger villeges then ours have pretty much shut it down for another 20 yrs. watch ch 10 for info. they want to fix 11. adding passing lanes and gardrails.

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Since: Jul 08

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Dec 3, 2008
 
The Citizens Voice wrote:
Irked, I understand your point, and I don't think I have yet to do as much research on this as you, but this idea has long been a NOrth Country one. It will not just encourage faster travel along the Northern part of NY, but the thought is that it will encourage industry. One of the biggest knocks on our small area is that it can not attract large industries that can provide hundreds of jobs to local workers, therefore keeping the potential for growth of our communties at a minimum. With a "roof top highway", it is hoped that would change. Also, in places like Malone, the Main St. business district has turned into 5 lane highway, making it impossible for people to shop that area comfortably. With the bypasses and such, places like downtown Malone would be able to be rejuvenated.
I do see your point.With todays economy, what business would or could afford to come here?
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Dec 3, 2008
 
IMHO, the rooftop highway will never bebuilt.

The ONLY chance of anything close to it ever becoming a reality is Rt 11 / Rt 37 being widened to four lanes and bypasses around the villages.

One of the things in the article said the highway woul be built to link Fort Drum with I-87. I can't imagine there is much need to come north from Fort Drum. If they are headed souh from Fort Drum, I-81 to I-90 will get them to I-87.

If it ever does happen (again which I doubt), I expect the route would probably come up Rt 37 to tie in the major port of entrys (Canada) at Ogdensburg and Massena (Rooseveltown).

I think it would then head south to miss the St. Regis Indian Reservation. My reasoning for this is because:
1. it would avoid the past problems of traffic detours when there are problems on the reservation.
2. it would be very hard to try to widen Rt 37 though the reservaton, brcause of the dense population density on the reservation.
3. it would be virtually impossible to enforce eminent domain land aquisition through the reservation.

I expect it woud probably follow Rt 37C, Rt 95, County Route 4, Rt 122 to Rt 11 to I-87.
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#14
Dec 3, 2008
 
save on tractor trailers going 60mph through our village. i was at the 37to30 redlight at 1100 pm one night, heading in that direction when the light turned green. as i slowly started to move forward, heading west came the 1st and then a nother right after that on e. two tractor trailers doing at least 55. after the dust had settled i piered towards the drugstore to my right, to my astonishment two village cop cars, go get their attention i yelled, but they could not hear. so i then pointed w/ no success. so i said the heck w/ it and drove off just glad to be alive

Since: Nov 08

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The research I saw the major problem I see is many smaller towns it would be going through, including the one I live in, they want to destroy all the homes on one side of Rt 11 to put this un-needed highway through. What does it matter if it creates a few more jobs when it's destroying homes? I ponder what traffic studies they've done. Other than the major towns, when you travel route 11, there isn't that much traffic. And on creating jobs, let's cite In 87 on that. 87 going through didn't create that many long term jobs. Only the larger cities that the interstate goes through have grown which chances are they would have without 87. What all rural communities along the northway got was more noise, roads cut in half and dead ended and increased crime rates.The industrial park in Plattsburgh have a majority of minimum wage jobs, so setting that as an example is a poor desire to have indeed. I find it ironic that so many people fought the windpower projects coming into the area which have brought good paying jobs and seeing the generators up, create little disturbance, but it seems a majority are ok with tearing up small towns and laying down this huge ugly monstrosity! Maybe folks in Malone aren't that upset because of the mess already made of Rt 11 through the village but it's the impacted smaller villages that will suffer the brunt of the loss of housing and revenue from this proposed project. Is it worth northern NY losing it's quiet neighborhood feel so people can race from Fort Drum to the Vermont border faster? I don't see where there really is that big a volume of traffic from point A to point B that the current rt 11 can't handle. And did anyone catch the info that they're planning on this being a toll road? Wouldn't that just be an asset to the local communities? You get to pay every time you use said road even though you paid already. Tonight then held meetings on this is Malone and Plattsburgh. I realize centralizing the location but Plattsburgh isn't even on their proposed highway system. Why not have a series of meetings in all of the towns that will be impacted? Probably because they don't want to hear what those communities will say.

And why when the nation is in such a financial straits, NYS is screaming about balancing the budget are they even bringing this back up for consideration? It all just makes no sense!

Since: Aug 08

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Dec 4, 2008
 
Irked, I believe that are bringing it up right now, because the studies are finally done. I do agree, if people are going to lose their homes, I don't see it being worth it.

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