BREAKING NEWS: Vargas sentenced to ni...

BREAKING NEWS: Vargas sentenced to nine years

There are 123 comments on the The Ukiah Daily Journal story from Jun 15, 2010, titled BREAKING NEWS: Vargas sentenced to nine years. In it, The Ukiah Daily Journal reports that:

Aaron Vargas, charged with killing his alleged molester Darrell McNeill last year in Fort Bragg, was sentenced to nine years in prison Tuesday in Mendocino County Superior Court.

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fergetaboutit

San Francisco, CA

#31 Jun 15, 2010
I Don't like Judge Brown. He is a liar, and a piece of scum in my book. But, he called this one right. Nine years ain't going to happen, probably five years in some low level facility. So cry babies get over it, you actually won. Aaron actually committed first degree murder, he killed a molester and will spend about nickle in the joint, BFD! He can come out, hire a ghost writer and write a book, get some TV time, get on Oprah and he'll make a bundle. His sister can be his agent and with a little management they can both be rich.
woodbutcher

United States

#32 Jun 15, 2010
So the message the judge is sending is if you try and stop a predetor who preys on kids or get even for one molesting you' you are bad person and need to be punished? May be the judge wont mind if one of his grand kids goes on a nice week long camping trip with McNeill.It would be more than safe to figure that Vargas was not the only victim of this predatory scum . How far we have fallen when a person who attacks a predatory lowlife like McNeill is punished and the predator is allowed to continue to not just live but live any where he wants when he belongs a cage in a deep dark dungeon if not a coffin in a deep dark hole in the ground.
woodbutcher

United States

#33 Jun 15, 2010
same ol BS wrote:
<quoted text>Law Enforcement did not protect anyone,there are no Police reports on the molest incidents from years past. Things would have been different if Aaron had reported the molesting that occurred.
Child molesters give away their right to live among humans the moment they rape a child and the judge gave away his right to continue to live with out being labeled a rapist enabling scum the moment he punished a man for doin what should have been done years ago. you dont get to stand up for child rapists rights and not be considered a low life
Ukiah_too_long

Schaumburg, IL

#34 Jun 15, 2010
Vargas needs to thank Judge Brown, the judge who did NOT have to accept the plea deal for a lesser charge. Judge Brown could have easily, on the original charge given him 25 to life. 9 years is a VERY reduced sentence.
Appeal away mother and sister, all that can be appealed is the way the case was handled, and it was handled in a fair and impartial manor.
Vargas, say "thank you your honor." Accept the consequences of your actions.
Comptche Kid

Fort Bragg, CA

#35 Jun 15, 2010
Do these people not understand the word MURDER? Only in Mendocino County.......
bull

Oakland, CA

#36 Jun 15, 2010
Of course she doesn't like the justice system... her family has been in and out of jail for years.
bull

Oakland, CA

#37 Jun 15, 2010
The dopegrowers are raping our county and economy.... can I kill them?
in Willits

United States

#38 Jun 15, 2010
Shoulda went for a jury trial.
just wondering

Concord, CA

#39 Jun 15, 2010
FRB wrote:
<quoted text>
Educate yourself,****.
http://www.saveaaron.com/
I suspect everyone condemning Aaron is a child molester or related sex pervert.
so everyone that does not agree with you is some type of molester...pretty enlightened stuff coming from aaron's camp. how many pseudonymous can you come up with anyway, mindy? good luck in politics or writing
Steve Smith

Santa Rosa, CA

#41 Jun 15, 2010
Looks like this molester had been sheltered by the police and local authorities for more than a decade. This cruel sentence is intended to silence this victim and serves as a warning to other victims not to come forth and testify.
Californian

Ukiah, CA

#42 Jun 15, 2010
Why doesn't anyone approach Judge Ron Brown and convince him of the errors of his ways.

Previously in American history, judges were part of the community and held accountable for their decisions?
Wondering

San Jose, CA

#43 Jun 15, 2010
I am a survivor of being molested. I understand what Aaron felt. Maybe not to the exact extent but I do understand the mind games that the child molester plays.

When my Mom was cued in that I was being molested, she spoke with my step-father about it. A lot of good that did! HE WAS THE VERY PERSON WHO WAS MOLESTING ME! He told her that he would talk to me to find out who was doing this awful thing to me. Yeah, while he was "talking to me about it" he also molested me at the same time. He told me to blame it on two of his biker friends!

So when the truth finally came out and she believed that it was him, we reported it to the law enforcement in Lake County. Again, a lot of goo that did! I went through all the reporting and such that they expected. I was in 5th grade. They sent me to counseling and ran me through the hoops to say that there wasn't much they could do. They could promise to cut a deal with him to keep him out of the county so that he would stay away from me. Yeah for the good ole justice system working. Thank you D.A. Freeborn who made his way up to being a judge down there! So my molester dropped some names of some big time drug dealers and it was made clear he was never to come back to Lake county. Wow, justice was really served.

My mom was so messed up in the head that when he finally got himself into other legal trouble for trying to hold up a bank in AZ. and he ended up in prison, she made trips there for my younger brother, his blood son, to see him. WTF? It there was ever a good time to cut ties with this creep!?

There were collect calls to the house and I would sometimes answer and have to hear his voice. I blame my mom for that part. She continued that part of the abuse without even thinking about it in the name of my brother still knowing this pedophile. She needed her head examined, still does.

I still live in a sort of fear. I do not know if this man is in or out of prison. I don't really talk to my brother except for about 20 minutes on holidays that we end up at the same place and he is still sober. He is a drunk now. Way to go with helping him know his dad! He moved to AZ for some time to get to know his dad and he encouraged him to go out and drink!

So I don't want to hear all this C R A P about the law and justice. Aaron did right in my book. As for this child molester suffering for a whole short 20 minutes, that is nothing compared to how much suffering Aaron has suffered and the possible other victims out there!

If the law can't do its job right, then we either need a "changing of the guards" or clean the streets another way.

I hope the appeal is filed, heard and Aaron is given the help that he needs. Locking him up is not the answer. Even the wife of the child molester stood by him in the end.

As for those who said that Aaron did not report this, there are conflicting stories. And let us just say he didn't, how many of you MEN out there would want to open up about something like that. I know a man who went through this and to date, I am the only one he has talked to about it because of what I have been through. Most men would mock another man for speaking out and would never be able to live it down.

God Bless Aaron and his family!
Wondering

San Jose, CA

#44 Jun 15, 2010
Californian wrote:
Why doesn't anyone approach Judge Ron Brown and convince him of the errors of his ways.
Previously in American history, judges were part of the community and held accountable for their decisions?
Too bad the justice system thinks that the judges are above the law and accountability. It is too bad he could not loose his seat as a judge because of this.

It makes you wonder what was the true driving force that made him side for the heavier sentencing. Is there something the public doesn't know? Look how outstanding this Darrell McNeill was supposed to be. Church member, Scout leader, and leader in the community? I guess no one is to be trusted...
Wondering

San Jose, CA

#45 Jun 15, 2010
Please pull your head out wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't take very long for you to take the bait. Yes, it is "Thou shalt not murder." Kind of like "Aaron shall not murder a person who was accused of being a pervert." So your interpretation of the bible allows me to kill anyone that has simply been accused of molesting a child? Is there a need for the presentation of evidence or perhaps a trial to establish guilt?


I am not going to take the time to totally repost all that I said but look a few posts above this one and read my story. Not all cases are heard.

Many cases are dismissed, ignored, or bargained with to "settle" it with little, to no thought of the one that is truly the "victim."

In the beginning, no one could believe my step-father would molest anyone. He had molested me, my step-sister, step-brother and we are unsure of how many more. I know that he also slept with the wives of a few of his sons. This man was a sick man all the way through. Hey, but I guess everyone needs to go through a costly trial to have a bunch of people to think the believe one way or another to "prove" he is guilty. So even if it happened, if this group of people think it didn't happen, it didn't and it has to be left at that.

I do believe that God will bring justice to my step-father. He knows what is in his heart. He will also bring justice to my Ex husband. I will not lie, if I live to see the day that the phone rings with the information that either one of them is dead, regardless the cause, I will not cry tears of sorrow, it will be of relief because I know that they will no longer be around to harm anyone else!

I honestly believe that is what Aaron was doing when he went out there. When he shot that creep and realized what he did, he was relieved that he saw an end to a nightmare. I think I would have done the same if I were in his shoes.
please respond

Emeryville, CA

#47 Jun 16, 2010
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not going to take the time to totally repost all that I said but look a few posts above this one and read my story. Not all cases are heard.
Many cases are dismissed, ignored, or bargained with to "settle" it with little, to no thought of the one that is truly the "victim."
In the beginning, no one could believe my step-father would molest anyone. He had molested me, my step-sister, step-brother and we are unsure of how many more. I know that he also slept with the wives of a few of his sons. This man was a sick man all the way through. Hey, but I guess everyone needs to go through a costly trial to have a bunch of people to think the believe one way or another to "prove" he is guilty. So even if it happened, if this group of people think it didn't happen, it didn't and it has to be left at that.
I do believe that God will bring justice to my step-father. He knows what is in his heart. He will also bring justice to my Ex husband. I will not lie, if I live to see the day that the phone rings with the information that either one of them is dead, regardless the cause, I will not cry tears of sorrow, it will be of relief because I know that they will no longer be around to harm anyone else!
I honestly believe that is what Aaron was doing when he went out there. When he shot that creep and realized what he did, he was relieved that he saw an end to a nightmare. I think I would have done the same if I were in his shoes.
I would like to know the name of the molester. I did not report something a while back and the guy moved to lake county. I always wondered where he went off to.
Please pull your head out

Palo Alto, CA

#48 Jun 16, 2010
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not going to take the time to totally repost all that I said but look a few posts above this one and read my story. Not all cases are heard.
Many cases are dismissed, ignored, or bargained with to "settle" it with little, to no thought of the one that is truly the "victim."
In the beginning, no one could believe my step-father would molest anyone. He had molested me, my step-sister, step-brother and we are unsure of how many more. I know that he also slept with the wives of a few of his sons. This man was a sick man all the way through. Hey, but I guess everyone needs to go through a costly trial to have a bunch of people to think the believe one way or another to "prove" he is guilty. So even if it happened, if this group of people think it didn't happen, it didn't and it has to be left at that.
I do believe that God will bring justice to my step-father. He knows what is in his heart. He will also bring justice to my Ex husband. I will not lie, if I live to see the day that the phone rings with the information that either one of them is dead, regardless the cause, I will not cry tears of sorrow, it will be of relief because I know that they will no longer be around to harm anyone else!
I honestly believe that is what Aaron was doing when he went out there. When he shot that creep and realized what he did, he was relieved that he saw an end to a nightmare. I think I would have done the same if I were in his shoes.
Ok, you've changed my mind. I agree, we should shite-can the justice system and take matters into our own hands. Say, I've been wronged in the past too. Please provide a list of transgressions where I would be justified in murdering my transgressor.
Wondering

San Jose, CA

#49 Jun 16, 2010
please respond wrote:
<quoted text>
I would like to know the name of the molester. I did not report something a while back and the guy moved to lake county. I always wondered where he went off to.
The report was made in the late 70's. My step-father is still in AZ. I know this because my mom keeps track of him. Even though I am not happy with her choices in life on how she deals with things, I still am in contact with her and such.

As for my Ex... He was convicted and is on Megan's Law page...

He is carefully watched by his family because they don't want him to return to prison a third time. He would have to face the third strike law. I also have other people that know what he is up to. I was the one that reported him the second time, which got him in trouble because he broke his parole. He was around kids. He found a woman that had kids and was spending time with her kids. The poor woman found out on Christmas Eve about his past. My heart goes out to her.

Thank you for your concern. Neither of these beings are the person you didn't report...
You could look them up on the child molester's site and see if they are there.

http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/disclaimer.aspx...

Go through here and you can see if they are in the system. You can make a report if you find them there because it will be on their record where ever they moved to or are found if they are in hiding.

Good luck!
Wondering

San Jose, CA

#50 Jun 16, 2010
jason wrote:
<quoted text> Do you have any children liberal scum?I can understand that there should be consequences for Aarons actions,but your reaction makes me believe you were either involved with the child molester or are one yourself.This man was molested as a child and you joke about bending over for the soap?!Apparently he should have shot and killed a few more people you ****!
You often have to wonder what is going on in the minds of those who just do not understand what people like Aaron and/or other victims of molest have gone through. It has been some time since I looked up the stats, however, last I looked, 1-4 females and 1-7 males are sexually molested or assaulted in their lifetime. That is just who speaks up and are counted!

It is especially hard for men to come forward because there is something lost when you speak up and out about such things. Because the subject is so hard to deal with, most guys go into the mode of teasing and bullying. They ask why you were not man enough to make it all stop. You hear that even as a girl. "You must have liked it to let it go on for so long." That is sort of what Aaron heard. "Lover's quarrel", Yeah right!

This man was a power/leadership figure in Aaron's life. His parents trusted him. What would his parents say had he spoke up? This molester was considered an outstanding citizen, church goer, scout leader, public leader... great guy.

So when people on this board are not understanding to where Aaron is coming from. When they speak and do not try to understand what Aaron went through, figure that they either have something to hide themselves or they haven't a clue what it feels like to be the victim on this level.

Be well~
Please pull your head out

Palo Alto, CA

#51 Jun 16, 2010
jason wrote:
<quoted text> Do you have any children liberal scum?I can understand that there should be consequences for Aarons actions,but your reaction makes me believe you were either involved with the child molester or are one yourself.This man was molested as a child and you joke about bending over for the soap?!Apparently he should have shot and killed a few more people you ****!
You're clearly a little slow there tough guy. I'll therfore dumb things down for you, as I have a soft spot in my heart for those with special needs.

Molest=Very bad thing.

Murder=Very bad thing.

Acting outside of law=Very bad thing.

Break law=Be prepared to pay the price.

Wondering

San Jose, CA

#52 Jun 16, 2010
Please pull your head out wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, you've changed my mind. I agree, we should shite-can the justice system and take matters into our own hands. Say, I've been wronged in the past too. Please provide a list of transgressions where I would be justified in murdering my transgressor.
See now you are going overboard.

I will not bite.

Being on a serious level, I think you know in your heart what is right and wrong. Had Aaron been your child and you heard that someone had molested him, you may have different thoughts.

My daughter was molested. I allowed the "justice" system to do their thing. He got two sentences of six year sentences. Twelve years! That was pretty good. My daughter and two other children would be over 18 by the time he got out. I still worried for other children. Then my heart sank when I heard that he had to serve the full 6 years and NO MORE THAN 1/3 of his second sentence, with time off for good behavior. He was out in about 7 years. Hmmm, how much did Aaron just get? Oh... but Aaron took a life you say. Well, my daughter's life is changed forever. I don't see much of a difference. He took from her something that can't be given back. Truth be told, I wanted to kill him. I wouldn't cry to hear of his death. It has been nearly 16 years now and I have left it in God's hands, but he is not coming around my house asking to see my kids. He is not calling my house either. I am not being continually harassed or contacted as Aaron was. So my situation is different. I may have thought differently if this was something out of the blue, but he was still being contacted. Aaron wanted to be left alone! I don't blame him.

So if you wish to make your list and decide what is right and wrong and who you want to make your judgment on, that is your will. As much as I agree with Aaron's actions, I will not deny that he will still have to stand before God and answer for what he has done. God will look in his heart and know what his intentions were. Only God can do that. So, if you have issues with people, I am not encouraging you or anyone to do as Aaron has done. I am simply saying that I understand why he did what he did. I most likely would have done what he did, under the circumstances. Aaron is bravely facing what he has done and is still working within the system to be heard.

Now if the justice system would seemingly work so toughly on other criminals, such as these child molesters, maybe there wouldn't be people that act out as Aaron did.

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