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Sheriff's deputies arrest two - Ft. Bragg Advocate-News

There are 22 comments on the Fort Bragg Advocate-News story from Nov 6, 2008, titled Sheriff's deputies arrest two - Ft. Bragg Advocate-News. In it, Fort Bragg Advocate-News reports that:

Motorists entering Fort Bragg from the south Halloween day may have wondered why a house just south of Hare Creek along Highway 1 was surrounded by Sheriff's Office vehicles.

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Mike

Oakland, CA

#1 Nov 6, 2008
"Smith is a known Sureno gang member and Hull is believed to be a close associate." Nice catch! Good job!
Robert

Mendocino, CA

#2 Nov 8, 2008
Smith is not only a known gang member, He is the so called leader of a sureno gang in fort bragg that deals meth and pot. Taking him of the streets for any time at all is a blessing to this small town. Thank you sheriffs dep.
Carrie and friends

United States

#3 Nov 8, 2008
The two men that got arrested one is known as a gang member the other is a father and a husband. The two of them have been friends since child hood. Mr. Hull Has always been a good friend to Smith and has always tried to show him a better life, has given him work so he could better himself. Smith has always respected Mr Hull's family life he never brought any problems of his personal life around.The night before the arrests they went out to celebrate Mr. Hull's birthday, they got invited to a house where later a fight had broken out. Mr. Hull was trying to leave when he was struck in the head and knocked out, his friends picked him up and took him home. The next morning he woke up and realized he was missing his wallet and shoe. Mr. Hull and Smith went back to the house, Mr Smith waited at the truck while Mr. Hull went up to the house and knocked on the door and said " I don't want any problems I'm just here for my wallet". The people in the house said your wallet is not here, Mr Hull looked around didn't find it and left. One hour later Mr. Hulls wife got a call from Pine Beach Inn saying they had his wallet, which was found in the road in front of the house. The people in the house had called the police and Mr. Hull was arrested. The charges on Mr. Hull are false he just wanted his wallet like any person would. There was no gang related activity to do with any of this, they just made it in to a gang related charge because Mr Hull was with Mr. Smith. This is a catch 22 they tell gang members that they can not be around any other gang members, so if they hang out with people that are not gang members the the people who are not gang members get accused of gang affiliation. So what I'm saying is Mr Hull is not a gang member but he is a hard worker and a good father/husband and would never give that up to be in involved in what he is beening accused of.
FB against gangsters

Berkeley, CA

#4 Nov 10, 2008
I have never heard anyone call solo Mr Smith. Except the police. Anybody who knows him knows that he is the person who brought the cvc to fortbragg from reno nevada. He shows young idiot kids where he was stabed in the neck and tells them how hard he is and that if they follow him they will have drugs and money. They sell pounds of weed mostly and when they can get a good deal on meth they sling it for a while. His whole life is based on gang activity. He is not just the so called leader of the cvc he is the sole reason that for the past 3 years fort bragg has had 4 people shot and countless cars vandelized. He personaly put a 16 year old incharge of going into an appartment and shooting 4 people. He was in the process of trying to take the gang over from loony.Jason Carter.
The house that they were busted at is known by the police as a gang and drug house. Thats why it was taken in the way that it was. The truth is that if Mr Hull wasn't running partys with the cvc selling drugs then he wouldnt have been busted. He may not be jumped into the cvc but bet your last dollar he was involved in gang activitys and fully aware of who he was running around with. There is an old saying that says "if you run around with garbage long enough, Eventualy you start to smell like it. You reap what you sew Mr Hull. If you continue to run with these gangsters then let me be the first to wish you ,Good luck in prison. Fort bragg is sick of the gang thing and in a comunity this small it is only a matter of time before all cvc are in prison or leave town. this is a list of known senior cvc gang members in fort bragg.
Erick Smith, Wilton Cruz, Juan Estrella,Eric Arguellis, Wilbor Escobeto,Carlos Ogowa. If you hang out with these people then you will eventualy end up in jail so dont be supprized.
FB LOCAL

San Jose, CA

#5 Nov 13, 2008
Carrie and friends wrote:
The two men that got arrested one is known as a gang member the other is a father and a husband. The two of them have been friends since child hood. Mr. Hull Has always been a good friend to Smith and has always tried to show him a better life, has given him work so he could better himself. Smith has always respected Mr Hull's family life he never brought any problems of his personal life around.The night before the arrests they went out to celebrate Mr. Hull's birthday, they got invited to a house where later a fight had broken out. Mr. Hull was trying to leave when he was struck in the head and knocked out, his friends picked him up and took him home. The next morning he woke up and realized he was missing his wallet and shoe. Mr. Hull and Smith went back to the house, Mr Smith waited at the truck while Mr. Hull went up to the house and knocked on the door and said " I don't want any problems I'm just here for my wallet". The people in the house said your wallet is not here, Mr Hull looked around didn't find it and left. One hour later Mr. Hulls wife got a call from Pine Beach Inn saying they had his wallet, which was found in the road in front of the house. The people in the house had called the police and Mr. Hull was arrested. The charges on Mr. Hull are false he just wanted his wallet like any person would. There was no gang related activity to do with any of this, they just made it in to a gang related charge because Mr Hull was with Mr. Smith. This is a catch 22 they tell gang members that they can not be around any other gang members, so if they hang out with people that are not gang members the the people who are not gang members get accused of gang affiliation. So what I'm saying is Mr Hull is not a gang member but he is a hard worker and a good father/husband and would never give that up to be in involved in what he is beening accused of.
WHATEVER you just keep telling yourself that.
a friend of Mr Hull

United States

#6 Nov 13, 2008
We are not telling ourselves anything, its the truth like we said before Mr Hull is a child hood friend of Mr Smith that's all. I'm a close friend of Mr Hull's and I have been around when Mr Smith has came around and I can tell you this person you speak of, we never saw any gang related activity. We know Mr Smith as a friend to be truthful the more we here about Mr.Smith the more shocked we are. What ever Mr. Smith is up to has nothing to do with Mr. Hull and that is all we are trying to say. We live in a small town and I can't help but to think that this town loves negative drama and likes to make any one look bad. The person we know is Eric Smith not any thing else. I meet him many times and he has always been kind and I have never heard any of these thing you people speak of. Look you all can say what you want I can't help that but these people have a life to live any false comments made about them is not fair. I don't truly know what Eric was up to when he was not around us but these things people are saying about him are shocking to me, I do believe there are gang members out there but as far as I know Eric's been trying to get out of here so he would not be alway the target ever time something goes down in this town. Bottom line is Mr. Hull has nothing at all to do with any of this crap you people talk about.
local

Mendocino, CA

#7 Nov 14, 2008
If you think that you are defending mr Hull in any way you are wrong.If he would have been with any other gang members what you say might be possible but as far as erik smith goes, Everything that he does and everything that he is about is his gang. For gods sake,,,Open your eyes. He is the leader of the cvc. I think that you are trying to cover Mr Hulls backside hoping that someone will read this and consider that he is being wronged. That is not going to happen. Erik smith has spent so much time trying to convince FortBragg that he is the hardest gangster in town that he now has that reputation. People that live in town think that you are either lieing so you can help Mr Hull or that you are all complete idiots. I think that it is a bit of both.
At any rate, The law will prevail and Mr Hull will more than likly go to jail for his gang activity. If he is a father and husband maby by the time he gets out he will appriciate his family enough to grow up and stop gang banging with the cvc. Dont do the crime if you cant do the time.
the mendonesian

Vacaville, CA

#8 Nov 14, 2008
Carrie and friends wrote:
The two men that got arrested one is known as a gang member the other is a father and a husband. The two of them have been friends since child hood. Mr. Hull Has always been a good friend to Smith and has always tried to show him a better life, has given him work so he could better himself. Smith has always respected Mr Hull's family life he never brought any problems of his personal life around.The night before the arrests they went out to celebrate Mr. Hull's birthday, they got invited to a house where later a fight had broken out. Mr. Hull was trying to leave when he was struck in the head and knocked out, his friends picked him up and took him home. The next morning he woke up and realized he was missing his wallet and shoe. Mr. Hull and Smith went back to the house, Mr Smith waited at the truck while Mr. Hull went up to the house and knocked on the door and said " I don't want any problems I'm just here for my wallet". The people in the house said your wallet is not here, Mr Hull looked around didn't find it and left. One hour later Mr. Hulls wife got a call from Pine Beach Inn saying they had his wallet, which was found in the road in front of the house. The people in the house had called the police and Mr. Hull was arrested. The charges on Mr. Hull are false he just wanted his wallet like any person would. There was no gang related activity to do with any of this, they just made it in to a gang related charge because Mr Hull was with Mr. Smith. This is a catch 22 they tell gang members that they can not be around any other gang members, so if they hang out with people that are not gang members the the people who are not gang members get accused of gang affiliation. So what I'm saying is Mr Hull is not a gang member but he is a hard worker and a good father/husband and would never give that up to be in involved in what he is beening accused of.
What the hell are you smoking? Are you really that stupid to believe taking this punk off the street isn't going to be good for OUR TOWN?
Yea I live here, I'm well known, and I'd love to see a chump like this go down.
And if you're going to post from my town, please learn to write.
a friend

United States

#9 Nov 14, 2008
the mendonesian wrote:
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What the hell are you smoking? Are you really that stupid to believe taking this punk off the street isn't going to be good for OUR TOWN?
Yea I live here, I'm well known, and I'd love to see a chump like this go down.
And if you're going to post from my town, please learn to write.
To my town: I'm not writing a book I don't need to learn how to write to put out there who Mr Hull is! We are not smoking anything we are just saying whatever Erik was up to has nothing to do with Mr. Hull or his friends. You people can call us stupid or whatever, But what we are writing is what we know. By reading your commit it is upsetting, that because this town feels one way about Erik then a long time friend Mr Hull is a piece of crap like Erik in your eyes. Wow I suppose none of you out there has ever been at the wrong place at the wrong time and you don't have any friends that have been trashed by hear say. When Mr Hull has his day there's nothing to charge him with because he didn't do any thing.Any one who knows Mr. Hull knows what I'm saying is true and that all that really matters. Erik, maybe I don't know as well as I think but I do know he is his own person not Mr. Hull's boss man, they did not have a friendship like that.I won't be writing any more.The first commit was to explain that's all not to hear all your thoughts about someone you don't know.(Mr. Hull)peace!
at the party

Mendocino, CA

#10 Nov 15, 2008
I was there and when it started getting bad it went to "CVC mother #@%$#^ Back off or die." Then he got hit. Then it all broke loose. There was no fight until they tried to intimidate by yelling out CVC. Thats what they do when the odds are against them and they still want to rule. It works with some people but were not those people. They got the rite people and for the rite reasons. He was rite along with them. Were tired of them too. So chew on that!
MoonAtNyt

Wilmington, NC

#11 Dec 30, 2008
Mike wrote:
"Smith is a known Sureno gang member and Hull is believed to be a close associate." Nice catch! Good job!
I am a concerned Mother of a young woman that resides in Fort Bragg. I believe that she knows this "Smith" guy and I am worried about the truths of his association or affiliation as a Suren Gang member/leader. Can anyone provide further viable information to me? I have tried to find other data such as courtrecords, charges, etc...and I can't seem to locate any! I am worried about the safety of my daughter and granddaughters if they are tied in with this man! Can someone help me? Thank you! email me at [email protected]
Now What

United States

#12 Jan 1, 2009
What happened to the judicial system here? Isn't a person innocent until PROVEN guilty in a court of law? Don't be to quick to judge in this case, it could be you that ends up on the wrong side of the law next time even you are innocent. Let a jury decide who is telling the truth. Even if our court in Fort Bragg is a joke we can respect the decision of a fair jury. If Mr. Hull is found to be innocent I hope you that have jumped to judge him will have the balls to apologize.
Now What

United States

#13 Jan 1, 2009
Carrie and friends wrote:
The two men that got arrested one is known as a gang member the other is a father and a husband. The two of them have been friends since child hood. Mr. Hull Has always been a good friend to Smith and has always tried to show him a better life, has given him work so he could better himself. Smith has always respected Mr Hull's family life he never brought any problems of his personal life around.The night before the arrests they went out to celebrate Mr. Hull's birthday, they got invited to a house where later a fight had broken out. Mr. Hull was trying to leave when he was struck in the head and knocked out, his friends picked him up and took him home. The next morning he woke up and realized he was missing his wallet and shoe. Mr. Hull and Smith went back to the house, Mr Smith waited at the truck while Mr. Hull went up to the house and knocked on the door and said " I don't want any problems I'm just here for my wallet". The people in the house said your wallet is not here, Mr Hull looked around didn't find it and left. One hour later Mr. Hulls wife got a call from Pine Beach Inn saying they had his wallet, which was found in the road in front of the house. The people in the house had called the police and Mr. Hull was arrested. The charges on Mr. Hull are false he just wanted his wallet like any person would. There was no gang related activity to do with any of this, they just made it in to a gang related charge because Mr Hull was with Mr. Smith. This is a catch 22 they tell gang members that they can not be around any other gang members, so if they hang out with people that are not gang members the the people who are not gang members get accused of gang affiliation. So what I'm saying is Mr Hull is not a gang member but he is a hard worker and a good father/husband and would never give that up to be in involved in what he is beening accused of.
Carrie and Friends: People who know Mr. Hull know that he a good Father and Husband and that he loves his family. Some people can't see the forest for trees and are quick to judge someone for something they know nothing about. Ignore their ignorance because they have made up their minds before a trial is even held. Just hold onto to the thought that the truth will prevail and set the record straight. Then we will see what all these "little people" have to say.

BMD

Since: Feb 08

Fairfax, CA

#14 Jan 2, 2009
Justice for Katlyn Long.
Jim

San Francisco, CA

#15 Jan 3, 2009
I have a son and daughter-in-law in Fort Bragg. The community has always had drug related issues and a fair amount of chemical dependancy problems.
It does seem that the local police have "upped"
the anty in cracking down on obvious drug hotels and drug dealers. I am 100% behind the police and hope that mendo folks in the area support them as well. My son and daughter-in-law live next to "white" druggies that used their home as a drive-by drug dispensary. The police eventually shut them down, after a year of complaints and much distress to the neighbors including some who have children. It is a serious issue that the community needs to keep alert to and working with the local law enforcement folks.
But for those concerned about their kids living here, this is still a fairly safe place to live.
Especially in comparison to the big city.
laytonville grandma

United States

#16 Jan 6, 2009
Only Our Lord Jesus could get away with trying to help people turn their lives around. In this day and age people don't lift you up they hold you down. That way they feel better about their own small lives. No good deed goes unpunished.
what ever

Ukiah, CA

#18 Jan 15, 2009
MoonAtNyt wrote:
<quoted text>
I am a concerned Mother of a young woman that resides in Fort Bragg. I believe that she knows this "Smith" guy and I am worried about the truths of his association or affiliation as a Suren Gang member/leader. Can anyone provide further viable information to me? I have tried to find other data such as courtrecords, charges, etc...and I can't seem to locate any! I am worried about the safety of my daughter and granddaughters if they are tied in with this man! Can someone help me? Thank you! email me at [email protected]
lady you are tripen lady we dont go around beeting up inesent people.
What_the_heck

Saint Helena, CA

#19 Jan 20, 2009
"what ever" and "at the party" should have stayed in school. Or has our education system completely failed? Holy crap... your grammar and spelling is below that of a 5th grader!

"inesent" people? Did you even see the red squiggly line under it when you typed it? That means there is a spelling error.

"rite people".... dude, it's spelled RIGHT. "rite" means a ceremony, like from the word "ritual." And "were" is a complete different word then "we're." Notice the apostrophe in that last one?

Ugh fellas... I beg you, STAY IN SCHOOL!
norcal

United States

#20 Jan 20, 2009
What_the_heck wrote:
"what ever" and "at the party" should have stayed in school. Or has our education system completely failed? Holy crap... your grammar and spelling is below that of a 5th grader!
"inesent" people? Did you even see the red squiggly line under it when you typed it? That means there is a spelling error.
"rite people".... dude, it's spelled RIGHT. "rite" means a ceremony, like from the word "ritual." And "were" is a complete different word then "we're." Notice the apostrophe in that last one?
Ugh fellas... I beg you, STAY IN SCHOOL!
They'd rather be out Bangin.
PePe

Ukiah, CA

#24 Feb 4, 2009
Mainor Reyes is a convivted felon doing 25 to life for killing a cracker

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