Covelo students arrested for fighting

Covelo students arrested for fighting

There are 68 comments on the The Ukiah Daily Journal story from Aug 29, 2009, titled Covelo students arrested for fighting. In it, The Ukiah Daily Journal reports that:

Going back to school took a turn for the worse at Round Valley High School when three girls were arrested for fighting Friday morning.

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Woah

Brisbane, CA

#1 Aug 29, 2009
They need to have police presence on the school grounds ?!!! What a discusting place. Can't the parents take care of their children.... Oh, Thats right. They are the real problem.
Teach Nonviolence

Vacaville, CA

#2 Aug 29, 2009
Things that happen everywhere, everyday are considered 'Real News" in this Nothing-happening County/town.

A fascination with violence will be passed down to your kids, who will pass it.......... etc. etc. Break the chain. Encourage your Children to Abhor Violence, please... Teach them Conflict Resolution, Anger Management, and encourage a healthy Self-Esteem, or continue to watch your "Pseudo-Civilized" society consumed by ignorant urges... And unnecessary Drama.
Ernest Jones

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#3 Aug 29, 2009
Round Valley Community Survey

The problems at the school are manageable if parents can understand their rights and responsibilities to their children.

Since the No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB) was enacted in 2001, only 1% of parents across the United States have exercised their rights to remove their children from a failing school to enroll them in another, more successful school setting.

This project is attempting to create a more effective method for advising parents about making informed decisions regarding school choices for their children. The project is being conducted by Mr. Ernest K Jones, teacher at Eel River Charter School, and doctoral candidate in Education at Walden University, Baltimore, Maryland.

The purpose of the following survey is to identify specific areas parents think can be helpful in making better-informed decisions. The information you provide will be kept anonymous.


This is the link to the Round Valley Community Survey
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx...
Goot

Hayward, CA

#4 Aug 29, 2009
Who cares about that schithole town. I say everyone stay away from that place.
Ernest Jones

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#5 Aug 29, 2009
Round Valley Community Survey

The problems at the school are manageable if parents can understand their rights and responsibilities to their children.

Since the No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB) was enacted in 2001, only 1% of parents across the United States have exercised their rights to remove their children from a failing school to enroll them in another, more successful school setting.

This project is attempting to create a more effective method for advising parents about making informed decisions regarding school choices for their children. The project is being conducted by Mr. Ernest K Jones, teacher at Eel River Charter School, and doctoral candidate in Education at Walden University, Baltimore, Maryland.

The purpose of the following survey is to identify specific areas parents think can be helpful in making better-informed decisions. The information you provide will be kept anonymous.

This is the link to the Round Valley Community Survey
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx...
Ex-Ukiahian-Alas ka

Anchorage, AK

#6 Aug 29, 2009
Teach Nonviolence wrote:
Things that happen everywhere, everyday are considered 'Real News" in this Nothing-happening County/town.

LOL..Ya wanna fight? After school..behind the bleachers..(Pomolita)..
Ernest Jones

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#7 Aug 29, 2009
Here is the correct link to the survey mention in my earlier post.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx...
Cmon really

Ukiah, CA

#8 Aug 29, 2009
This is the most shocking story.... A fight in Covelo!! Where is this County going? My oh my.
Ernest Jones

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#9 Aug 29, 2009
Round Valley Community Survey

Here is the correct link to the survey.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx...
Need more training

Covelo, CA

#10 Aug 29, 2009
I'm concerned at the behavior of the new resident deputies. So far, there appears to be a pattern of over-reaction (issuing threats and arrests) rather than peace-making in their attitudes and practices.

Within a week, they have:

Taken it upon themselves to break up the regular Sunday afternoon soccer game -- their reason being that these hard-working young adult men who come together to blow off some steam without drugs and alcohol lacked "appropriate permission" to use the public field ... a field that they've been playing on for the past two years??

Arrested Arvid for (finally) taking a local tweeker to task for his out-of-control and dangerous behavior that constantly threatens the safety of us all ... but did not arrest the guy who was driving under the influence and had just sped off from (yet another) HIT AND RUN ??

Hauled three girls off to Juvenile Hall rather than sit down with them and attempt any form of dialogue/conflict resolution...??

By these three incidents alone, they have alienated a large portion of the population that they should have been spending their time getting to know. These types of over reactions just demonstrate that they need more training and supervision, IMO.
interesting

Jackson St Forest, CA

#11 Aug 29, 2009
is this the first fight at Round Valley High School .... is it the last ... sheesh, talk about a slow newsday!
COVELO MOM

United States

#12 Aug 29, 2009
As one of the parents here in Covelo I was attending a meeting with school superintendent Ivy when the fight broke out on Friday.We parents that were there WERE discussing how to make our schools and ALL children safer.I was there when the girl was yelling racial slurs at the other girls.I was there helping pull all the girls involved apart. The parents in that meeting were there. The school officals stood on site and allowed this young lady to walk home by herself. Against parent opposition that they should escort her home they allowed her to walk alone.The school in my opinon stood aside and ONCE again dropped ball and allowed this to happen. If they would have followed procedure and forced the mother of that child to come get her this could have been prevented.
You blame the parents and I can see this and accept that.I am a perent and I am fighting hard here to help come up with better safer enviroment for ALL children in our home town. I was also there at sub-station on Thursday when this same girl and her mother stood in front of it and yelled profanities and racial slurs at myself and other native parents standing there. Yet Mendocino's finest stood inside and did nothing till a fight almost ensued and were forced to come out of their office.
All the children here are facing this problem now. No not all of Covelo is a throw down attitude.But I am going to say I as a mom am f***ing tired of this.Mendocino needs to train and step up when they are called.
People are not being told that the Native children jumped on Thursday consisted of2 other Native boys , a hispanic, and 2 hispanic over age gang affiliated.Nope lets all leave that out of this story and let all assume Covelo Natives are what you say. They are also not telling you Mendocino and Tribal police both witnessed video that was taken of the fights and saw as we all did young boys being jumped from beind and tagged teamed by these other gang affiliated boys and men.
I am disgusted with what has been going on here.You are also not being told that all week parents have gone to resident deputies and school officals to get them to help prevent what happened. Ask for reports I know they were made because I was in on those meetings as well!Reports are public domain.
The deputies they have here seem unconcerned and attitude is to clean up afterwards instead of being active part in prevention. Deputy Patrick in fact informed three of us he was going to do nothing until a fight did in fact happened.We asked for help from authorites to get All involved to work out in positive non-violent manner. So maybe you should be looking at Mendocino's Finest instead of always pointing fingers at Covelo Parents.
Cmon really

Ukiah, CA

#13 Aug 29, 2009
Need more training wrote:
I'm concerned at the behavior of the new resident deputies. So far, there appears to be a pattern of over-reaction (issuing threats and arrests) rather than peace-making in their attitudes and practices.
Within a week, they have:
Taken it upon themselves to break up the regular Sunday afternoon soccer game -- their reason being that these hard-working young adult men who come together to blow off some steam without drugs and alcohol lacked "appropriate permission" to use the public field ... a field that they've been playing on for the past two years??
Arrested Arvid for (finally) taking a local tweeker to task for his out-of-control and dangerous behavior that constantly threatens the safety of us all ... but did not arrest the guy who was driving under the influence and had just sped off from (yet another) HIT AND RUN ??
Hauled three girls off to Juvenile Hall rather than sit down with them and attempt any form of dialogue/conflict resolution...??
By these three incidents alone, they have alienated a large portion of the population that they should have been spending their time getting to know. These types of over reactions just demonstrate that they need more training and supervision, IMO.
How about better parenting??? Blaming the teachers and deputies is being the typical irresponsible parent. IT STARTS AT HOME!!!
Ernest Jones

United States

#14 Aug 29, 2009
Cmon really wrote:
<quoted text>How about better parenting??? Blaming the teachers and deputies is being the typical irresponsible parent. IT STARTS AT HOME!!!
You are right, it starts at home. But do not delude yourself, the problem sits squarely on the shoulders of the leaders at the school and the sherrif's department in Ukiah.

If parents stopped sending their children to a "persistently dangerous school" thing would stop tomorrow. If there are no students, then there is no ADA (money), and everyone pays attention. Too long, people have used ineffective strategies to get their needs met. Cost someone some money, and changes will happen.

It is simplistic to blame the family, when worst things occur in board rooms in Ukiah. We need new leadership in this valley that is atuned to the needs of the people and not their own pockets. Maybe we can all heed the following message:

Hopi Wisdom

You have been telling the people that this is the Eleventh Hour.
Now you must go back and tell the people that this is The Hour.
There are things to be considered:

Where are you living?
What are you doing?
What are your relationships?
Are you in right relation?
Where is your water?
Know your garden.
It is time to speak your Truth.
Create your community.
Be good to each other.
And do not look outside yourself for the leader.
This could be a good time!
There is a river flowing now very fast.
It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid.
They will try to hold on to the shore.
They will feel they are being torn apart, and they will suffer greatly.
Know the river has its destination.
The elders say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of
the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water.
See who is in there with you and celebrate.
At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally.
Least of all, ourselves.
For the moment that we do, our spiritual growth and journey comes to a halt.
The time of the lone wolf is over.
Gather yourselves!
Banish the word struggle from your attitude and vocabulary.
All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration.
We are the ones we've been waiting for.
Cmon really

Ukiah, CA

#15 Aug 29, 2009
Ernest Jones wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right, it starts at home. But do not delude yourself, the problem sits squarely on the shoulders of the leaders at the school and the sherrif's department in Ukiah.
If parents stopped sending their children to a "persistently dangerous school" thing would stop tomorrow. If there are no students, then there is no ADA (money), and everyone pays attention. Too long, people have used ineffective strategies to get their needs met. Cost someone some money, and changes will happen.
It is simplistic to blame the family, when worst things occur in board rooms in Ukiah. We need new leadership in this valley that is atuned to the needs of the people and not their own pockets. Maybe we can all heed the following message:
Hopi Wisdom
You have been telling the people that this is the Eleventh Hour.
Now you must go back and tell the people that this is The Hour.
There are things to be considered:
Where are you living?
What are you doing?
What are your relationships?
Are you in right relation?
Where is your water?
Know your garden.
It is time to speak your Truth.
Create your community.
Be good to each other.
And do not look outside yourself for the leader.
This could be a good time!
There is a river flowing now very fast.
It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid.
They will try to hold on to the shore.
They will feel they are being torn apart, and they will suffer greatly.
Know the river has its destination.
The elders say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of
the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water.
See who is in there with you and celebrate.
At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally.
Least of all, ourselves.
For the moment that we do, our spiritual growth and journey comes to a halt.
The time of the lone wolf is over.
Gather yourselves!
Banish the word struggle from your attitude and vocabulary.
All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration.
We are the ones we've been waiting for.
"The problem sits squarely on the leaders at the school and the sheriff's Dept."????? You can't be serious. I am guessing you have problems with your kids and don't accept any responsibility.
Teacher

United States

#16 Aug 29, 2009
Cmon really wrote:
<quoted text>"The problem sits squarely on the leaders at the school and the sheriff's Dept."????? You can't be serious. I am guessing you have problems with your kids and don't accept any responsibility.
I do not understand your comment. If you are attacking the messenger, you join so many others in this county, who do not have a suggestion for improving a bad situation.

Round Valley is Mendocino County's Hurricane Katrina. There are many problems in Round Valley, including inadequate education, no recreational activities or parks, and high unemployment, but only lip service has been provided.
If this were any other community, the best minds would work together to find solutions. Unfortunately for all of us, ignoring problems only creates larger problems.
herewegoagain

Mill Valley, CA

#17 Aug 29, 2009
As a teacher with at risk kids my perspective is that a majority of a youths attitudes towards school, police and other ethnicities comes from their parents. Parents who don't take an active interest in their children and make it difficult for anyone to help their kids. So often the parents of these kids have their own issues related to substance abuse, unemployment and/or poor education. At other times we see parents who want to set limits but find their children 'out of control' and they look to gov't agencies for support. Unfortunately there is only so much these groups can do especially when people are playing the blame game rather than working together. What's sad is, students heading done the wrong road start seeing police interaction, suspension from school, etc. as part of their normal experience rather than trying to learn from these things. They keep thinking that they'll change when they become adults and the law gets tougher. What they don't realize or want to realize is that these unsafe/illegal habits become ingrained in them and it's unrealistic and difficult for them to stay out of trouble when they turn 18 or 19...and they only gov't agency looking out for them are the police and prison system. Finally, if a school needs a police patrol to have a safe BBQ, something is seriously wrong with the school and community. It sounds like a very tough place to be a kid, especially one that wants to better themselves and get a proper education.
Outsider

El Cerrito, CA

#18 Aug 29, 2009
It takes a village to raise a child. From what I am seeing most of the village is working together to make things better. Change does not happen over night. There is a sudden gang presence from out of the county at the school which is causing concerns over safety. The Hispanics are wearing their colors. Given the fact that the drug cartel has moved in just outside of Covelo and made the area dangerous for the families who have lived there for the last 150 years it is no wonder people feel fear. Unfortunately school officials cannot ban anyone from a public education until they prove they are unfit to be a part of the school. Then they are expelled and they find another school to attend and disrupt.

Don't think the school officials are not concerned about the problem and that they are not trying to work on the situation. If you knew them you would be amazed at how much they hear around campus and how much time they spend talking about a solution. Give them your support, if the adults attack them it takes their attention away from helping the students.

Covelo is a great place with a great future if the village unites rather than divides.

One who has been there and witnessed the progress.
Outsider

El Cerrito, CA

#19 Aug 29, 2009
Ernest Jones wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right, it starts at home. But do not delude yourself, the problem sits squarely on the shoulders of the leaders at the school and the sherrif's department in Ukiah.
If parents stopped sending their children to a "persistently dangerous school" thing would stop tomorrow. If there are no students, then there is no ADA (money), and everyone pays attention. Too long, people have used ineffective strategies to get their needs met. Cost someone some money, and changes will happen.
It is simplistic to blame the family, when worst things occur in board rooms in Ukiah. We need new leadership in this valley that is atuned to the needs of the people and not their own pockets.
Good God! This sounds like a political platform. Ernie, I sure hope you are not planning to run for county superintendent! If this was not a political move, why would you have given your real name??? We have worked with you before and we would all quit if that happens. Education would go to Hell in a hand basket in Mendocino County.
yoorpopo

Hayward, CA

#20 Aug 29, 2009
Blame everyone else for standing around with their hands in their pockets. The parents are the ones to blame. That's it!!! Born and bred this way. Nothing is going to change. We don't want to read your Covelo junk. As far as I am concerned you can become part of Trinity County. It would save the "real" taxpayers loads of money. Get lost.

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