Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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JOEL COOL DUDE

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#67960 Feb 22, 2014
HOW NOT TO FEEL SUFFERING OR PAIN BY BECOMING THE WITNESS CONSCIOUSNESS:

The strange thing about brain-EM-generated consciousness is that it can divide itself into a witnessing aspect and a frontal active part.

If, say, I am ill and if I take the positive stand that my illness is a passing phase, then, with a little practice, I can separate the association of my brain consciousness with the illness by standing aloof from it.

The usual reaction of most people is to identify the brain-generated consciousness with the illness and with all its sufferings and besides to bring into the picture a whole set of morbid suggestions.

By standing aloof from the disease condition one begins to stop worrying and to simply observe the body and its reactions at work.

The minute this can be done fully, one observes that the usual suffering and all the fears associated with an illness lessen or disappear and under this non-interfering poise of consciousness the body's autoimmune systems slowly become more potent and at the same time the medicines work better to cure the condition in the shortest possible time while the witnessing consciousness just observes the entire process without being disturbed.

Some years ago, boiling hot water from an electric kettle fell on my stomach and right thigh while pouring out the liquid into a bowl. I was in great pain. I soon collected myself and instead of calling a doctor, I first calmed down and dissociated my consciousness from the pain and amazingly in minutes the pain reduced considerably and after say 3 or 5 minutes it had disappeared. I stayed in this state of a witness consciousness detached from the serious burn for more than 2 hours and then at the insistence of my servants a doctor was summoned who did the needful and left. The recovery was lightning quick and the scars disappeared fast.

This event showed my how the consciousness, despite being a product of brain-EM activity, can stay aloof from the workings of the body and be at peace and when this dissociated state is achieved the association with the body of the brain-consciousness that interferes with the physical condition and affects it with its very presence (as a pulsating EMR and by its EM-generated negative thoughts/fears), can be reduced or eliminated altogether.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#67961 Feb 22, 2014
WITNESS CONSCIOUSNESS VERSUS FRONTAL CONSCIOUSNESS

Furthermore, the consciousness can simply stand back and watch the workings of the exteriorized consciousness that's involved in observing the world go by.

One part of the brain-generated consciousness can be made to stay aloof from the observational aspect of the same brain-generated consciousness - in this separated poise, the witness consciousness simply watches the other aspect of consciousness (which is the frontal part) busying itself in watching events in one's surroundings.

So, the consciousness can not only dissociate itself from the pain of illness but it can also stand aloof from its frontal aspect and witness the latter (frontal consciousness) taking in the sights, sounds, smells and conversations taking place in the surroundings.

This dissociation of the various aspects of consciousness from each other generates greater peace, greater discrimination and a sense of not being involved in the rush of the world.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#67962 Feb 22, 2014
Develop the consciousness instead of praying to some imaginary G-d and in observing mumbo jumbo religious rituals.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#67963 Feb 22, 2014
Neither can this imaginary G-d nor those mumbo jumbo rituals help the believer in any way nor can they solve the problems of the world nor can they reveal the secrets of the universe.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#67965 Feb 22, 2014
The eyes radiate the maximum amount of EMR generated in the complex neuronal networks of the brain.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#67966 Feb 22, 2014
EM and gravitation generated fields stretch into space far beyond their source. Consciousness that's generated in the brain stretches out far beyond the brain into the environment. EM waves generated in the brain manifest consciousness and it's these EM waves that radiate beyond the brain and if sufficiently potent can influence events outside of us.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#67968 Feb 22, 2014
EM fields that follow the inverse square law travel far away from source and at a sufficiently far distance can function independent of the source. Brain-EM generated consciousness field behaves in a similar way. So, there's no bar to the field, depending on its strength, of brain-generated consciousness to being local or nonlocal or glocal. Scientists should research these phenomena of consciousness that're corroborated by reason and yogic experience.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#67969 Feb 22, 2014
INVERSE SQUARE LAW & GLOCALITY

EM fields that follow the inverse square law travel far away from source and at a sufficiently far distance can function independent of the source. Brain-EM generated consciousness field behaves in a similar way. So, there's no bar to the field, depending on its strength, of brain-generated consciousness to being local or nonlocal or glocal. Scientists should research these phenomena of consciousness that're corroborated by reason and yogic experience.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#67971 Feb 22, 2014
RUPERT SHELDRAKE: NAIVE NEW-AGER

Rupert Sheldrake, psi researcher and Oxford biologist, says that consciousness is not generated by the electromagnetic field of complex neuronal activity. Dr Sheldrake states that brain waves correspond to various states of consciousness but that consciousness is not produced by brain activity.

Rupert Sheldrake, David Bohm and Fritjof Capra were close to the influential Indian philosopher, the late J Krishnamurti.

Mystics of all ages said/say the same thing that consciousness is independent of the body (matter).

Conversely, science is capable of altering our cognitive faculties via brain surgery, psychoactive drugs and em radiations and death of the neurons results in disappearance of consciousness. Some would argue that this consciousness, which is supposedly independent of the brain, somehow lifts out of the brain and continues its existence out of the corpse in some spiritual dimension.

Ironically, till today, no one has been capable of pinpointing the substance of which consciousness is composed of and no one has been able to tell us, backed with evidence, if consciousness, in whatever abstruse form it is supposed to exist, survives the death of the body. In the same way, spirit is another mumbo jumbo word.

Science has all the hard facts, while religion/mysticism has only belief/speculation to fall back upon.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#67972 Feb 22, 2014
Often I wish that Topix had a judging button for BORING.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#67973 Feb 22, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
Gee. I go away for a day and the place becomes a San Francisco bath house from the early '80s.
Holster your libidos, gentlemen.
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/163791/israel...

Israel’s First-Ever Zombie Movie Kills It With Cholent Joke

Fighting reanimated Hezbollah ghouls, the IDF’s heroes never lose their cool

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#67974 Feb 22, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/163791/israel...
Israel’s First-Ever Zombie Movie Kills It With Cholent Joke
Fighting reanimated Hezbollah ghouls, the IDF’s heroes never lose their cool
Awesome! However, nothing new -- IDF has been taking on mindless zombies for 70 years.

In 'World War Z'(a terrible adaptation of a really good book), Israel is one of the few nations of the world that successfully controls the Zombie Apocalypse. Interestingly enough, by containing it behind a wall (Art imitating life?).

The metaphor is stretched even further when the successful Israeli strategy is hosed up by peaceniks. One of the (unintentionally) funniest bits of a movie that takes itself way too seriously.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#67975 Feb 22, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
Often I wish that Topix had a judging button for BORING.
I just auto-skip past any Joel clip of more than three lines -- they are all obviously cut-and-paste.

Interesting note about Indian gurus and the Internet. Back in the early '90s bringing computers into India was highly restricted. Just going through customs with my laptop took an hour of paperwork. However, gurus who were involved with publishing religious literature could freely bring in all the latest computer equipment and publishing software. The Hindu community in India has a decade long head-start on everyone else there in the generation of religious spam.

The surname "Sheldrake" did catch my eye however. It was the name of Fred MacMurray's evil character in the classic comedy,'The Apartment'.
E23Jer34

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#67977 Feb 22, 2014
The self chosen ones.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#67978 Feb 22, 2014
FOOLING THE PUBLIC

What Rupert Sheldrake, Deepak Chopra, Dean Radin and Bruce Lipton fail to understand is that consciousness is not a thing but that it is an activity of matter in various states of organization with consciousness peaking in the complex human brain.

Consciousness is closely tied with electrical activity if it is not a direct manifestation of electricity in various stages of material organization.

These psi researchers are neither deeply intellectual nor are they yogis who have direct access to the field of consciousness with its numerous states and so they've made a mess of the science of consciousness by drawing on the crude information found in religious texts attributed to bronze age barbarians - Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, Krishna and others.

Well, the flip side, as expected, is that these psi writers are minting millions of dollars through their books, healing centers, public talks and promotional vids by fooling the masses who largely being anti-science lap up such woo woo.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#67979 Feb 22, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
Often I wish that Topix had a judging button for BORING.
Hi there PhD in Science with Grade 5 skills in Math, Physics and Chem.

I wish Topix had buttons to judge you as DUMB, JEALOUS and A RELIGIOUS FANATIC.

LMFAO

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#67980 Feb 22, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Hi there PhD in Science with Grade 5 skills in Math, Physics and Chem.
I wish Topix had buttons to judge you as DUMB, JEALOUS and A RELIGIOUS FANATIC.
LMFAO
I see you kept that post to 3 lines (as per Rick's recommendation)

Good boy!

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#67981 Feb 22, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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I see you kept that post to 3 lines (as per Rick's recommendation)

Good boy!
Hi there.

ha ha ha

I've come to the end of my researches in mind-matter using yogic experience and scientific evidences.

I am in touch with leading mind-matter researchers and with some mainstream scientists in this regard.

The mainstream scientists (though they lack the most crucial thing which is yogic experiences) are more in tune with the reality than the psi researchers like Sheldrake, Radin, Chopra, Lipton and others.

You can stick to Torah.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#67982 Feb 22, 2014
The psi researchers like Sheldrake, Radin, Chopra, Lipton and others lack incisive intellectual arguments on the matter of sentience and have zero yogic experience. So, they're losers on both fronts. Fritjof Capra is a bit different when compared to the crackpots mentioned above since he's both a trained particle physicist and has some exposure to a direct yogic experience which completely transformed his life.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#67983 Feb 22, 2014
J Krishnamurti, the mentor of Bohm, Sheldrake and Capra, was the biggest fraud in the field of philosophy in the 20th century.

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