Right Brain Thinker

Euless, TX

#41 Nov 12, 2012
Left Brain Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>I don't expect a tax break or increase will necessiatly create or destroy jobs. In and of itself. I do think a tax increase...with a portion of the revenue (50%) applied to the debt is smart. The remainder in part applied to President Obamas jobs bill would certainly create jobs for teachers, law enforcement and several categories of first responders. It will also create jobs in the construction industry associated with the nations infrastructure (ie: roads, bridges, Airports, etc) which we are in much need of.

But most importantly, I don't believe a tax increase on those making => $200K/$250K will harm the nation one iota.
"But most importantly, I don't believe a tax increase on those making => $200K/$250K will harm the nation one iota."

So, If raising taxes on "rich" people won't harm the economy, why stop there? Lower your threshold to $20,000. You will bring in much more "revenue".

If tax increases are beneficial, it shouldn't be reserved for one class of the population that you select.

All of my posts have revolved around one central theme, "revenue" is not the reason for the dreaded debt. It's massive and excessive spending.

“I don't need no stinkin job.”

Since: May 09

Topix Bar and Grill

#42 Nov 12, 2012
Right Brain Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>
Teachers, police, firemen, and first responders are paid for by state and local governments. Not the federal government.
We have already gone down the "shovel ready" roads and bridges path. That concept has either been proven to be a failure or someone lied to the American people.
President Obama has a jobs bill that includes funding to the States for those very disciplines. And more. Its been sitting on Crybaby John Boehners desk since Sept '11 collecting dust. President Obama referred to it several times during the presidential debates and in a number of political ads during the campaign.

Go educate yourself and then come back.

“I don't need no stinkin job.”

Since: May 09

Topix Bar and Grill

#43 Nov 12, 2012
Right Brain Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>
"But most importantly, I don't believe a tax increase on those making => $200K/$250K will harm the nation one iota."
So, If raising taxes on "rich" people won't harm the economy, why stop there? Lower your threshold to $20,000. You will bring in much more "revenue".
If tax increases are beneficial, it shouldn't be reserved for one class of the population that you select.
All of my posts have revolved around one central theme, "revenue" is not the reason for the dreaded debt. It's massive and excessive spending.
Because $20K is commusurate with the income level of lower/middle class. Which happens to be struggling right now.
Right Brain Thinker

Euless, TX

#44 Nov 12, 2012
Left Brain Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>President Obama has a jobs bill that includes funding to the States for those very disciplines. And more. Its been sitting on Crybaby John Boehners desk since Sept '11 collecting dust. President Obama referred to it several times during the presidential debates and in a number of political ads during the campaign.

Go educate yourself and then come back.
You are a little too caught up in your politics. I don't have or use pet names for elected officials.

Apparently, the speaker thinks the "jobs bill" is a bad idea. I assume that he is following the wishes of his constituents.

You don't need much of an education to realize that when you run out of "revenue", you stop spending money.
Right Brain Thinker

Euless, TX

#45 Nov 12, 2012
Left Brain Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>Because $20K is commusurate with the income level of lower/middle class. Which happens to be struggling right now.
My point, in this seemingly futile exercise, is to point out that raising taxes is bad for the economy.

If higher taxes were good, it would be good for all of the population, regardless of income level. If higher taxes on 5% of the population is good, higher taxes on 100% would be better.

“This town is nuts...”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#46 Nov 12, 2012
We don't need a tax increase on anyone! What we need to do is downsize the Federal Government and by eliminating some of the social programs that exist today and cleaning up the one's that remain to make sure the dollars spent on them actually serve the purpose they are intended for. You can't place the county's entire healthcare system under Federal supervision then raise taxes to pay for it and sweep it all under the rug by designating 50% of the increase go to the national debt. We have to make government more effective and efficient, not bigger.

“I don't need no stinkin job.”

Since: May 09

Topix Bar and Grill

#47 Nov 12, 2012
Right Brain Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a little too caught up in your politics. I don't have or use pet names for elected officials.
Apparently, the speaker thinks the "jobs bill" is a bad idea. I assume that he is following the wishes of his constituents.
You don't need much of an education to realize that when you run out of "revenue", you stop spending money.
The House Speaker has avoided the jobs bill in attempt to sabotage the economy. Which is exactly what Norquest and Senate Minority Leader Mitch Mcconnell demanded of him. And they set out to sabotage the economy in effort to deny President Obama re-election. It didn't work and now the republican taliban leadership is in a real pickle.

“I don't need no stinkin job.”

Since: May 09

Topix Bar and Grill

#48 Nov 12, 2012
Right Brain Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>
My point, in this seemingly futile exercise, is to point out that raising taxes is bad for the economy.
If higher taxes were good, it would be good for all of the population, regardless of income level. If higher taxes on 5% of the population is good, higher taxes on 100% would be better.
Oh good grief!!!! You cant find anybody, republican or democrat, that believes raising taxes on the middle class right now is a good idea.

You're just being dumb now.
Right Brain Thinker

Euless, TX

#49 Nov 12, 2012
Left Brain Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>Oh good grief!!!! You cant find anybody, republican or democrat, that believes raising taxes on the middle class right now is a good idea.

You're just being dumb now.
I'm glad you finally see my point. Raising taxes is not a good idea.

Brining up bills, amendments, economic policies, political parties, or other various and sundry topics in an attempt to question ones intellect and education does not change anything.

Taxes are too high. Raising them, on any subset of the population, would do damage to the so-called economic recovery.

“The Dawg is In!”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#50 Nov 12, 2012
Left Brain Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>I don't expect a tax break or increase will necessiatly create or destroy jobs. In and of itself. I do think a tax increase...with a portion of the revenue (50%) applied to the debt is smart. The remainder in part applied to President Obamas jobs bill would certainly create jobs for teachers, law enforcement and several categories of first responders. It will also create jobs in the construction industry associated with the nations infrastructure (ie: roads, bridges, Airports, etc) which we are in much need of.

But most importantly, I don't believe a tax increase on those making => $200K/$250K will harm the nation one iota.
The job you speak of are pretty much government jobs, making government even bigger, and will not have the positive outcome that private sector jobs provide the economy. Teacher jobs benefit us 15 years down the road, we are looking at the immediate future.

“The Dawg is In!”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#51 Nov 12, 2012
Banned wrote:
We don't need a tax increase on anyone! What we need to do is downsize the Federal Government and by eliminating some of the social programs that exist today and cleaning up the one's that remain to make sure the dollars spent on them actually serve the purpose they are intended for. You can't place the county's entire healthcare system under Federal supervision then raise taxes to pay for it and sweep it all under the rug by designating 50% of the increase go to the national debt. We have to make government more effective and efficient, not bigger.
Stop it, you are starting to sound conservative.
Romney/Ryan Supporter

Oklahoma City, OK

#52 Nov 12, 2012
Calm down Obamas got it covered. Stand back and KNOW that he is PRESIDENT!

“I don't need no stinkin job.”

Since: May 09

Topix Bar and Grill

#53 Nov 12, 2012
Right Brain Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm glad you finally see my point. Raising taxes is not a good idea.
Brining up bills, amendments, economic policies, political parties, or other various and sundry topics in an attempt to question ones intellect and education does not change anything.
Taxes are too high. Raising them, on any subset of the population, would do damage to the so-called economic recovery.
You cant prove your claim. In fact, history proves you to be dead wrong. Ronald Reagan raised taxes when the eonomy was bad and in fact the economy improved.

“I don't need no stinkin job.”

Since: May 09

Topix Bar and Grill

#54 Nov 12, 2012
Scuba Dawg wrote:
<quoted text>
The job you speak of are pretty much government jobs, making government even bigger, and will not have the positive outcome that private sector jobs provide the economy. Teacher jobs benefit us 15 years down the road, we are looking at the immediate future.
They certainly are not. The only shortcoming I see in President Obamas Jobs Bill is that the construction jobs will be short term jobs. A couple of years I figure. Maybe more if were lucky. But even that is still a good deal.

“I don't need no stinkin job.”

Since: May 09

Topix Bar and Grill

#55 Nov 12, 2012
You people just don't "get it". Taxes are unadvoidably going up next year. Book it! The only question to be answered is "On who?". Maybe for everybody. Maybe for only those making => $200K/$250K.

In either case the republican taliban will lose. If they force tax increases on everybody then they will pay dearly in the 2014 Midterm elections. If they vote to exclude the middle class but increase taxes on the wealthy then Norquist has vowed to cost them their next election. And many of the republican taliban leadership is up for election in 2014. And those dumb republican taliban insurgents in Congress were dumb enough to publically sign that pledge that Grover Norquist shoved under their nose. The pledge to "Not raise taxes".

President Obama has the upperhand on this one. For a number of reasons you should already know and I won't bother to list.

“The Dawg is In!”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#56 Nov 12, 2012
Left Brain Thinker wrote:
You people just don't "get it". Taxes are unadvoidably going up next year. Book it! The only question to be answered is "On who?". Maybe for everybody. Maybe for only those making => $200K/$250K.

In either case the republican taliban will lose. If they force tax increases on everybody then they will pay dearly in the 2014 Midterm elections. If they vote to exclude the middle class but increase taxes on the wealthy then Norquist has vowed to cost them their next election. And many of the republican taliban leadership is up for election in 2014. And those dumb republican taliban insurgents in Congress were dumb enough to publically sign that pledge that Grover Norquist shoved under their nose. The pledge to "Not raise taxes".

President Obama has the upperhand on this one. For a number of reasons you should already know and I won't bother to list.
By 2016 even the freeloaders will run away for the Democratic Party. Obama won't be able to blame his insufficiencies on the last term president. When the poor are even more poor from waiting on their messiah to deliver them from their financial distresses, they will deflect.

You can't spend your way out of debt. You tighten your belt and work harder. It's the American way.

“I don't need no stinkin job.”

Since: May 09

Topix Bar and Grill

#57 Nov 12, 2012
Scuba Dawg wrote:
<quoted text>
By 2016 even the freeloaders will run away for the Democratic Party. Obama won't be able to blame his insufficiencies on the last term president. When the poor are even more poor from waiting on their messiah to deliver them from their financial distresses, they will deflect.
You can't spend your way out of debt. You tighten your belt and work harder. It's the American way.
geedubya will be blamed for this economy for a generation. And rightfully so.
No Brainer

United States

#58 Nov 14, 2012
Left Brain Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>geedubya will be blamed for this economy for a generation. And rightfully so.
That worked in the 1st term because GWB was his predecessor and he got the credit and/or blame.

This time around, it is all on BO. The economy he just "inherited" is his own. He can't say the economy is "worse than we thought".

“The Dawg is In!”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#59 Nov 14, 2012
No Brainer wrote:
<quoted text>That worked in the 1st term because GWB was his predecessor and he got the credit and/or blame.

This time around, it is all on BO. The economy he just "inherited" is his own. He can't say the economy is "worse than we thought".
Dems won't take the blame for anything.
Jerry Jones

United States

#60 Nov 14, 2012
Left Brain Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>geedubya will be blamed for this economy for a generation. And rightfully so.
The reason my Dallas Cowboys can't make the playoffs is because Tom Landry left us in such bad shape.

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