RetardRadar

Hodgenville, KY

#42 Dec 29, 2012
walker72335 wrote:
Why can't we just put warning labels on people,like they do on cigarettes, letting us know what may happen if we choose to interact with this individual. It really would save us all a lot of trouble, and heartache and we wouldn't have anyone to blame but ourselves.
Finally we can partially agree on something. I think if a person is severe enough and can not be without medication to control their personality, moods or behaviors they should wear a medical alert bracelet. Not for the protection of others but more as a heads up for the medical and law enforcement communities.
Been with 2

Poplar Bluff, MO

#43 Dec 30, 2012
RetardRadar wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, first off I did not accuse you of making up the article. What I said was there are hundreds of articles on the Internet, an unreliable source for information. There are several articles that state Bi-Polar does not cause violence, point being The Internet means nothing, try a medical journal or doctor. You obviously lack the skills of a normal person to able to process and accept new information. If you were open to wanting to understand what it is you say you were dealing with then you would have sought out answers. Going around stating opinion as fact is ignorant and harmful. What you describes is Psychosis, to say otherwise gives Bi-Polar disorder a bad names and can make people bias and fearful of those who really do suffer from the disease. Now you can speculate all you wish about who I am or am not, it does not change the fact that what you posted was very wrong. There are some things that although may not kill they will darn sure break a person, not make them stronger. Thank goodness the person you refer to is away from you and your callus disposition. They need supporting, understanding and educated people to help them not hurt them!
Last reply to you. First you claim you work with people with mental illnesses, then admit you are not a Psychiatrist. I told you what I witnessed and also what a doctor and a PSYCHIATRIST said about this person. It was he that "labeled" her as Being bipolar, not I. What I witnessed (suffered through) along with what he said and that article is more evidence than you delusion that you know more than anybody else. If you have a problem with my statements, take it up with educated specialist known as a psychiatrist then read the police reports. He prescribe a medicine and it worked like a charm. Went from being satan to being an angel. But for some ungodly reason she would stop taking it occasionally and satan would return. Back and forth on and off. That is more information than you have at your disposal, Maybe, just maybe...the people with bipolar that you claim to have worked with were misdiagnosed? I stand behind my advice for everybody else (not you, you are clueless. But for the ones out there that have not yet got tangled up in this spiders web. Whomever reads this topic will decide for themselves. For their sake, they better hope they take mine.

Since: Nov 12

United States

#44 Dec 30, 2012
Uh-oh,if you and I are starting to agree then I want to change my mind.How dare I suggest that we label people that is exactly what is wrong with this country, to many labels,to many people.There now I feel better.
RetardRadar

Hodgenville, KY

#45 Dec 30, 2012
Been with 2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Last reply to you. First you claim you work with people with mental illnesses, then admit you are not a Psychiatrist. I told you what I witnessed and also what a doctor and a PSYCHIATRIST said about this person. It was he that "labeled" her as Being bipolar, not I. What I witnessed (suffered through) along with what he said and that article is more evidence than you delusion that you know more than anybody else. If you have a problem with my statements, take it up with educated specialist known as a psychiatrist then read the police reports. He prescribe a medicine and it worked like a charm. Went from being satan to being an angel. But for some ungodly reason she would stop taking it occasionally and satan would return. Back and forth on and off. That is more information than you have at your disposal, Maybe, just maybe...the people with bipolar that you claim to have worked with were misdiagnosed? I stand behind my advice for everybody else (not you, you are clueless. But for the ones out there that have not yet got tangled up in this spiders web. Whomever reads this topic will decide for themselves. For their sake, they better hope they take mine.
You are the one who is delusional! ALL that you described is Psychosis, there is no two ways about it. No one said she was not also Bi_polar. Some people in this world are strong enough to stand by those who have a mental illness and try to help them not hurt them. Last I checked there is more than one occupation involving the mentally ill and since a Psychiatrist ONLY see's patients on a monthly basis to make a diagnosis and dish out medication, they are not all knowing, a medical doctor is even more clueless and the Internet also has articles claiming to have spotted Elvis. Being diagnosed is not being labeled, that come from people like you who think that is all a person is, their diagnosis. Now, you only hope people take your advise to feed your own narcissism and ego, you are in no way offering any help or insight. If the person who asked the question decided, based on you, to terminate any relationship with this person and cut off all ties, that could very well be dangerous or deadly. Do you want to be responsible for that? You would be! No one should even be on this site asking questions that only a professional can answer. And just as a fun fact......they prescribe medication for more than just Bi-Polar disorder and without knowing what that medication is, you can not claim it is a Bi-Polar only medication. Spare me any more of your mindless babel...thanks!
RetardRadar

Hodgenville, KY

#46 Dec 30, 2012
walker72335 wrote:
Uh-oh,if you and I are starting to agree then I want to change my mind.How dare I suggest that we label people that is exactly what is wrong with this country, to many labels,to many people.There now I feel better.
No one has suggested we "label" anyone. A person who has a medical condition such as diabetes or heart disease wears a bracelet in order to alert authorities and medical personnel of their particular disease. Same concept applies with the mentally ill. Some illnesses mimic that of being drunk or high on drugs (are you aware of that?) and if police see such a person, their first thought is jail, a bracelet will avoid such a misunderstanding. Not that any of this matters to you in the slightest.....you are hell bent on being sarcastic, rude and care very little about the subject at hand. That is what is wrong with the world....... interference, bigotry and self-absorbed people, certainly not labels! If it keeps going like it is, you can count on more mass shooting, more domestic violence, more children being murdered and more crimes! Now there is not much point in replying to you again since you can not have a battle of wits with an obviously witless person, such as yourself, but I will continue to respond none the less to any FALSE or hateful information that is posted!

Since: Nov 12

United States

#47 Dec 30, 2012
I do not want to agree or disagree with anyone,both ADHD and Bipolar disorder are serious and should be treated by qualified personnel. There have been and will continue to be a variety of treatments used,with various results.Not all patients respond to the same treatments in the same way, therefore the mental health professionals continue to search for more reliable and universal treatment.
It is frustrating to the patient,families and medical professionals as well, very few people outside of the immediate family can handle these individuals for any length of time.
As far as relationships go,they can be trying even when both parties are healthy. A relationship with a person suffering from either of these disorders requires a deeper level of commitment, and understanding, and a forgiving nature, because there will be times you will not be dealing with the person but the disorder. Know this as well,at this time there is no cure,there may not ever be,there are treatments, but no cure.
dontbestupid

Keller, TX

#48 Dec 31, 2012
one of my sons was diagnosed with ADHD and the other is bi-polar. Neither one of them are on medicine, they DO NOT recieve a check every month and both are disciplined for their behavior. It is NOT a free ride to act how they want or for them to do nothing. Both of my boys have learned to live with their diagnosis and have adjusted THEIR behavior. Also they will be college graduates!! Seems all of you need to research facts and learn to seperate a real problem with a free loader. BTW there were ADHD children back in the day..they were stuck in resource classes and forgotten about or dropped out and became nothing. There were bi-polar children back in the day also..they now take up residency in state and federal pens..js!
guest

Dallas, TX

#49 Dec 31, 2012
Ok, thru all of the arguing and everything. I'm not sure I noticed if the initial comments questions were answered. I'd even like to know that if a young adult that has both of those illnesses, should society have to adjust to the persons behavior or should the person be required to adjust to the way society is? Since they're not insane. they know right from wrong. so, should they be treated like everybody else?
dontbestupid

Keller, TX

#50 Dec 31, 2012
They should have to adjust to everyone else. Both diseases can be treated with medication. and YES they should be treated like everybody else. An ADHD individual only has an attention disorder, they are relatively harmless to society, although it depends on the level of the hypertension. But a bi-polar individual, although probably more harmful to themself, can be violent. I am lucky that my children are responding to counseling and don't require the medication. I feel family members should be trained to deal with both types of individuals, then the one diagnosed can learn to handle their disease and live like a normal individual and adjust to normal society!
RetardRadar

Hodgenville, KY

#51 Jan 1, 2013
guest wrote:
Ok, thru all of the arguing and everything. I'm not sure I noticed if the initial comments questions were answered. I'd even like to know that if a young adult that has both of those illnesses, should society have to adjust to the persons behavior or should the person be required to adjust to the way society is? Since they're not insane. they know right from wrong. so, should they be treated like everybody else?
The "dontbestupid" should follow their own advice. NEVER has a Bi-Polar person EVER been able to control their moods and stability WITHOUT medication. Bi-Polar disorder is a chemical imbalance of the brain, medication stabilizes the imbalance. To answer you question, Both! A person diagnosed with the disorders, especially both need certain accommodation from family, friends and schools. Patients, understanding, space and above all support are key when dealing with anyone diagnosed with mental illness. They at no time should EVER get a pass to do as they please and should be held (to a point) accountable for their actions. Knowing right from wrong is not enough when dealing with an illness of the brain. Reasoning, empathy and control are sometimes greatly affected. ADHD is not JUST an attention problem, it also comes with hyperactivity. Imagine that you are listening to music through headphones and at the same time watching the news and a child is screaming for your attention. Now any "normal" person would pay attention to the child, but with ADHD they try to pay attention to all of it at once and therefore lack focus on any! Bi-Polar disorder takes away you ability to control your moods, impulse, reasoning or judgement. Your mind convinces you of things that are not right, true or typically normal. If you saw a person laying in bed sobbing uncontrollably who had no idea why they were crying, would you expect them to get over it or would you show empathy and compassion? Bi-Polar patients do not exhibit violent behavior unless they have a psychotic disorder on top of it. They will have fits of extreme suicidal depression that can last an hour or a month or they have fits of mania. The Mania shows itself in a variety of ways that range from excessive shopping, binge drinking, invincibility, promiscuity and so much more. If they break a law, they should be punished. If they hurt a family member, they should have conciseness. Their disorders must be kept in mind when punishment is decided. I hoped this helped although I am sure I will get even more flack for it. lol

“once was blind”

Since: Jul 10

now I see

#52 Jan 1, 2013
RetardRadar wrote:
<quoted text>The "dontbestupid" should follow their own advice. NEVER has a Bi-Polar person EVER been able to control their moods and stability WITHOUT medication. Bi-Polar disorder is a chemical imbalance of the brain, medication stabilizes the imbalance. To answer you question, Both! A person diagnosed with the disorders, especially both need certain accommodation from family, friends and schools. Patients, understanding, space and above all support are key when dealing with anyone diagnosed with mental illness. They at no time should EVER get a pass to do as they please and should be held (to a point) accountable for their actions. Knowing right from wrong is not enough when dealing with an illness of the brain. Reasoning, empathy and control are sometimes greatly affected. ADHD is not JUST an attention problem, it also comes with hyperactivity. Imagine that you are listening to music through headphones and at the same time watching the news and a child is screaming for your attention. Now any "normal" person would pay attention to the child, but with ADHD they try to pay attention to all of it at once and therefore lack focus on any! Bi-Polar disorder takes away you ability to control your moods, impulse, reasoning or judgement. Your mind convinces you of things that are not right, true or typically normal. If you saw a person laying in bed sobbing uncontrollably who had no idea why they were crying, would you expect them to get over it or would you show empathy and compassion? Bi-Polar patients do not exhibit violent behavior unless they have a psychotic disorder on top of it. They will have fits of extreme suicidal depression that can last an hour or a month or they have fits of mania. The Mania shows itself in a variety of ways that range from excessive shopping, binge drinking, invincibility, promiscuity and so much more. If they break a law, they should be punished. If they hurt a family member, they should have conciseness. Their disorders must be kept in mind when punishment is decided. I hoped this helped although I am sure I will get even more flack for it. lol
Thank you. A man behaves badly. A woman jumps all up in his grill for it. She is suddenly bipolar in his eyes. Hey! Shut down, Stony- faced emotionally constipated guy, they don't make a pill that cures me of telling you when you are acting an azz.

Anger is a normal human emotion. The expression of feelings and thoughts is normal. It's stalled communication. Just because you don't like what I said, doesn't make me have a condition.
In disbelief

United States

#53 Jan 1, 2013
guest wrote:
I have some questions about these two diseases. I've never dealt with this kind of problems. I know some characteristics, symptoms, signs of each one However, I need a little advice. People who are diagnosed in their early 20's. Do they get a free pass to do whatever the he!! they want to do, treat people however they want to treat them and act however the he!! they want to? Just because they have those problems? I would think not. Does it give them the right to not work because they can't focus? Does it give them the right to overtake medication because people with those disorders have been known to do that? Do they have the right to not clean house? Do they have the right to have these temper tantrums regardless of who's feelings get hurt? Do they have the right to not have to go to college and do their assignments because they can't focus? I would think NOT!!! NO EMPLOYER OR COLLEGE PROFESSOR, IS GOING TO GIVE A DAMN WHAT PROBLEM YOU HAVE. IF YOU CAN'T DO THE WORK. GET THE HELL OUT. I'm sorry those problems took over your life. But, that doesn't mean the rest of the world has to adjust to you. I would think the person with those problems would need to do the adjusting. Correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't think that I am. I'm a very caring and compassionate person. But, if me and the rest of the world has to abide by rules and laws. Then so should they be required to do the same. If they commit a crime, do they get less punishment because they were depressed and wasn't thinking strait? If they fail a test, should they be allowed to retake it because their focus was off? I'm not sure I agree with that. I need some insight on this. PLEASE.
For starters it is more than a problem, mental illness is a disability. Which means unable to work, in most cases. What employer is going to hire someone who can not focus, has little attention span, someone he would have to give small simple instruction to, and someone who has a very short term memory and that is only someone with ADHD. While one with Bipolar has trouble with following directions and gets angry and aggressive for no reason, with no warning.They do not do things because they think they have the right to, they do them because they are unable to control their thoughts and behaviors without medication, their brains are chemically imbalanced. No employer would hire them and put their business at risk. That check is theirs, money paid by their parents for this purpose. Should you punish a blind person for not being able to see the book? No. So why punish a mentally disabled person because they are unable to focus, remember what you said, or follow directions? You shouldn't. Yes, we have to adapt and accommodate those who are deaf with a way to hear, those who are blind with braille to see, and we must accommodate the mentally disabled with what they need to feel normal and do what we are able to do. The act on impulse, it's how their brains work, this is beyond their control.
In disbelief

United States

#54 Jan 1, 2013
walker72335 wrote:
It's funny but when a child does those things we call it a temper tantrum,when an adult does it it's called bipolar disorder.Back when parents were allowed or cared enough to discipline their kids you never heard of such a thing.Ask yourself how many 50+ people you know with this problem, not many,I bet.Seems to be a problem that ironically coincides with the breakdown of the family unit,over zealous doctors who have a pill for every ailment,and the. overall degradation of America's principle morals and values.
In short beat their ass when they are kids and they will behave as adults.
It's funny how at one time we knew nothing about AIDS, Rocky Mountain Fever, Child Abuse, Cell phones or computers, indoor plumbing or electricity, but they are everywhere now. It is called advancing science discovered or invented by these very type of people. Yes, it's been around longer than you think, because Ben Franklin and Albert Einstein were both said to be unteachable, would never be nothing, failures, stupid, danger to society, but they too, were mentally ill. They both were ADHD. If you beat the ass of a child who is bipolar, you will be making the condition worse. A child who is really happy then in the blink of an eye turns extremely angry and aggressive will not respond to an ass beating instead they will rebel against you because when they snap, they do not think at all, any feeling they feel will feel like more anger until they violently explode. If you think a person with bipolar is bad, then yeah, keep pushing them type of people until it graduates from bipolar to mania, because the next stage after bipolar is mania. BTW it has absolutely nothing to do with family breakdown, or morals and values. It can be inherited. You would be surprised at how many have it that you would never have thought about having it. Some are the greatest geniuses in the world. They are very smart and creative and can accomplish many things or invent something you may someday want or need, but people have to accommodate them with what they need, time and space to be the geniuses.
RetardRadar

Hodgenville, KY

#55 Jan 1, 2013
In disbelief wrote:
<quoted text> For starters it is more than a problem, mental illness is a disability. Which means unable to work, in most cases. What employer is going to hire someone who can not focus, has little attention span, someone he would have to give small simple instruction to, and someone who has a very short term memory and that is only someone with ADHD. While one with Bipolar has trouble with following directions and gets angry and aggressive for no reason, with no warning.They do not do things because they think they have the right to, they do them because they are unable to control their thoughts and behaviors without medication, their brains are chemically imbalanced. No employer would hire them and put their business at risk. That check is theirs, money paid by their parents for this purpose. Should you punish a blind person for not being able to see the book? No. So why punish a mentally disabled person because they are unable to focus, remember what you said, or follow directions? You shouldn't. Yes, we have to adapt and accommodate those who are deaf with a way to hear, those who are blind with braille to see, and we must accommodate the mentally disabled with what they need to feel normal and do what we are able to do. The act on impulse, it's how their brains work, this is beyond their control.
You have no clue what you are talking about! Let me address your abundance of inaccuracy one at a time. First off where did I state it was simply a problem? In very rare cases are SOME patients who suffer mental illness unable to work. Bi-Polar disorder alone is not a recognizable disability unless it can not be controlled with medication and is affecting all aspects of one's life, which is not the case. Mental illness is only a disability when you have been diagnosed with several different disordered and it can not be managed enough with medication to allow you to work, besides that the correct terminology is disorder or disease. Now if that is a lie then take it up with the SS administration. I have seen more than a few patients who have applied and been denied because their medication was working and they could and did function as every other person. There are hundreds of thousands of employers who have mentally ill patients on their payroll at this very moment. You do not at any time have to disclose mental health to an employer and as I said with medication you would never know a person has a disease. Bi-Polar patients have no trouble following directions and do not get angry or aggressive for no reason. That is simply not true. Their are several of my patients with Bi-Polar disorder that are teacher, nurses, salesmen, pilots and even entertainers, so apparently they do get hired somewhere by someone. I am not quite sure that you actually read any of my posts at all. If you had you would not b addressing me as if I said anything about a check and you wouldn't be stating things that I had already stated as if you were the first to address it. Are you seriously saying a person that is Bi-Polar or has ADHD can not remember what is said to them or can not follow direction? It is painfully obvious you know nothing of mental illness, have no education in the field, have never held a job in the field or maybe even know people who are mentally ill and yet you have blatantly posted nonsense.
RetardRadar

Hodgenville, KY

#56 Jan 1, 2013
In disbelief wrote:
<quoted text> It's funny how at one time we knew nothing about AIDS, Rocky Mountain Fever, Child Abuse, Cell phones or computers, indoor plumbing or electricity, but they are everywhere now. It is called advancing science discovered or invented by these very type of people. Yes, it's been around longer than you think, because Ben Franklin and Albert Einstein were both said to be unteachable, would never be nothing, failures, stupid, danger to society, but they too, were mentally ill. They both were ADHD. If you beat the ass of a child who is bipolar, you will be making the condition worse. A child who is really happy then in the blink of an eye turns extremely angry and aggressive will not respond to an ass beating instead they will rebel against you because when they snap, they do not think at all, any feeling they feel will feel like more anger until they violently explode. If you think a person with bipolar is bad, then yeah, keep pushing them type of people until it graduates from bipolar to mania, because the next stage after bipolar is mania. BTW it has absolutely nothing to do with family breakdown, or morals and values. It can be inherited. You would be surprised at how many have it that you would never have thought about having it. Some are the greatest geniuses in the world. They are very smart and creative and can accomplish many things or invent something you may someday want or need, but people have to accommodate them with what they need, time and space to be the geniuses.
I really hate to have to correct you again but..... Albert Einstein was never formally diagnosed with any mental illness and speculation after his death is quite pointless as it can never be proven, along with Ben Franklin, you mentioned. Again, BI-POLAR DISORDER DOES NOT CAUSE OR PRODUCE VIOLENCE. Graduates Bi-Polar to mania? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Mania is part of the Bi-Polar disorder, no amount of "pushing" brings it on. In one post you say it is a chemical imbalance (wonder where you heard that) and now you say it's environmental? The next stage is mania? There are no "stages", you can not have one without the other, otherwise it would not be Bi-Polar disorder. Geesh, get a clue! If you can not afford one, one can be provided to you!
dontbestupid

Plano, TX

#57 Jan 1, 2013
RetardRadar wrote:
<quoted text>The "dontbestupid" should follow their own advice. NEVER has a Bi-Polar person EVER been able to control their moods and stability WITHOUT medication. Bi-Polar disorder is a chemical imbalance of the brain, medication stabilizes the imbalance. To answer you question, Both! A person diagnosed with the disorders, especially both need certain accommodation from family, friends and schools. Patients, understanding, space and above all support are key when dealing with anyone diagnosed with mental illness. They at no time should EVER get a pass to do as they please and should be held (to a point) accountable for their actions. Knowing right from wrong is not enough when dealing with an illness of the brain. Reasoning, empathy and control are sometimes greatly affected. ADHD is not JUST an attention problem, it also comes with hyperactivity. Imagine that you are listening to music through headphones and at the same time watching the news and a child is screaming for your attention. Now any "normal" person would pay attention to the child, but with ADHD they try to pay attention to all of it at once and therefore lack focus on any! Bi-Polar disorder takes away you ability to control your moods, impulse, reasoning or judgement. Your mind convinces you of things that are not right, true or typically normal. If you saw a person laying in bed sobbing uncontrollably who had no idea why they were crying, would you expect them to get over it or would you show empathy and compassion? Bi-Polar patients do not exhibit violent behavior unless they have a psychotic disorder on top of it. They will have fits of extreme suicidal depression that can last an hour or a month or they have fits of mania. The Mania shows itself in a variety of ways that range from excessive shopping, binge drinking, invincibility, promiscuity and so much more. If they break a law, they should be punished. If they hurt a family member, they should have conciseness. Their disorders must be kept in mind when punishment is decided. I hoped this helped although I am sure I will get even more flack for it. lol
I did not say I would never medicate my son. I simply stated that as of right now they are handling other means of treatment. I feel this is what is wrong with society now days. Just medicate the child and do nothing else. I have opted for other forms of treatment. But if it comes to needing medication I will address that as we come to it. Also I did not say ADHD was only an attention problem. I am well aware of the hypertension phase of this disorder. We are still in the early stages of the bi-polar diagnoses and I don't know alot about it yet, so I do value the information and advice.
In Disbelief

Little Rock, AR

#58 Jan 1, 2013
RetardRadar wrote:
<quoted text>You have no clue what you are talking about! Let me address your abundance of inaccuracy one at a time. First off where did I state it was simply a problem? In very rare cases are SOME patients who suffer mental illness unable to work. Bi-Polar disorder alone is not a recognizable disability unless it can not be controlled with medication and is affecting all aspects of one's life, which is not the case. Mental illness is only a disability when you have been diagnosed with several different disordered and it can not be managed enough with medication to allow you to work, besides that the correct terminology is disorder or disease. Now if that is a lie then take it up with the SS administration. I have seen more than a few patients who have applied and been denied because their medication was working and they could and did function as every other person. There are hundreds of thousands of employers who have mentally ill patients on their payroll at this very moment. You do not at any time have to disclose mental health to an employer and as I said with medication you would never know a person has a disease. Bi-Polar patients have no trouble following directions and do not get angry or aggressive for no reason. That is simply not true. Their are several of my patients with Bi-Polar disorder that are teacher, nurses, salesmen, pilots and even entertainers, so apparently they do get hired somewhere by someone. I am not quite sure that you actually read any of my posts at all. If you had you would not b addressing me as if I said anything about a check and you wouldn't be stating things that I had already stated as if you were the first to address it. Are you seriously saying a person that is Bi-Polar or has ADHD can not remember what is said to them or can not follow direction? It is painfully obvious you know nothing of mental illness, have no education in the field, have never held a job in the field or maybe even know people who are mentally ill and yet you have blatantly posted nonsense.
I don't know what cracker jack box you got your medical training out of, but you are a nut. If you were the one who created this thread, poster #1, then yes I was talking to you, because in post 1, this disorder is referred to as problems, many times. If you were not post 1, I wasn't even talking to you. With your medical knowledge, I wouldn't let you treat my dog, much less my family members because you are a want to be know it all that don't know anything. Treating them and living with them are totally different.
RetardRadar

Hodgenville, KY

#59 Jan 1, 2013
In Disbelief wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know what cracker jack box you got your medical training out of, but you are a nut. If you were the one who created this thread, poster #1, then yes I was talking to you, because in post 1, this disorder is referred to as problems, many times. If you were not post 1, I wasn't even talking to you. With your medical knowledge, I wouldn't let you treat my dog, much less my family members because you are a want to be know it all that don't know anything. Treating them and living with them are totally different.
I have both lived with and treated! That is all you have to say? But I am the nut? You post nonsense and misinformation, what does that make you? Either you are completely delusional and believe the things you are posting or you are narcissist who just wants to be perceived as something you are not, knowledgeable on the subject. Mental illness or not it is still a PROBLEM to those dealing with it and calling it such should not get a reaction from anyone. And unlike you, I know an abundance of information, have first hand experiences with hundreds of patients and have the education to back up any statement I post. It is reckless and potentially harmful to post misleading statements. You can be rude, hateful and flip all you like but what you and others are doing by posting opinion as fact, can and will harm others. Last I checked Cambridge was not a cracker jack box but if it makes you feel more important and validates you in some way to question my education, then so be it.
RetardRadar

Hodgenville, KY

#60 Jan 1, 2013
dontbestupid wrote:
<quoted text>
I did not say I would never medicate my son. I simply stated that as of right now they are handling other means of treatment. I feel this is what is wrong with society now days. Just medicate the child and do nothing else. I have opted for other forms of treatment. But if it comes to needing medication I will address that as we come to it. Also I did not say ADHD was only an attention problem. I am well aware of the hypertension phase of this disorder. We are still in the early stages of the bi-polar diagnoses and I don't know alot about it yet, so I do value the information and advice.
I never stated anything to the contrary. I simply said a true Bi-Polar can not control their symptoms without medication. No mental health professional has ever advocated medication as the other source of treatment. We tell ALL patients with mental health issues to see a therapist, change environmental or social triggers, as well as take their medication. I do not know how old your children are but I will tell you that they will have periods of suicide thoughts and must be carefully monitored, especially when not medicated. If you have a problem with medication I suggest you look into alternative medicine. There have been studies that mediation, acupuncture, vitamin supplements and aromatherapy. All of which can, as we now know, change the chemical make up of a persons brain. I have a number of patients who opt for these forms of treatments and it does help. They still have ups and downs more than if they were on traditional medications but not as much if not medicated at all.
In Disbelief

Little Rock, AR

#61 Jan 1, 2013
RetardRadar wrote:
<quoted text>I really hate to have to correct you again but..... Albert Einstein was never formally diagnosed with any mental illness and speculation after his death is quite pointless as it can never be proven, along with Ben Franklin, you mentioned. Again, BI-POLAR DISORDER DOES NOT CAUSE OR PRODUCE VIOLENCE. Graduates Bi-Polar to mania? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Mania is part of the Bi-Polar disorder, no amount of "pushing" brings it on. In one post you say it is a chemical imbalance (wonder where you heard that) and now you say it's environmental? The next stage is mania? There are no "stages", you can not have one without the other, otherwise it would not be Bi-Polar disorder. Geesh, get a clue! If you can not afford one, one can be provided to you!
This is in response to both of your replies.1/2 of all bipolar patients are unable to work. Yes, bipolar alone is a recognizable disability under the Americans with Disabilities Act since it was amended in 2008. On or off of medication, this disorder affects all aspects of ones life. Symptoms are talkativeness, behave wildly or irresponsibly, have racing thoughts, easily distracted, difficulty concentrating, act on impulse, panic attacks, interferes with ability to function in school, in relationships, and at home. Act aggressively, suddenly appear calm. Bipolar exists if one has at least 2 or more manic episodes in his whole life that lasts more than a week at a time, and elevated mood is accompanied by abnormal behavior that disrupts his everyday life. It does affect every aspect of daily life. It is a life long condition that will cause him to have trouble thinking, making decisions and have memory problems. Lose temper easily and during a manic phase, often acts aggressively even inflicts self mutilation as an attempt to cope with overpowering negative emotions such as extreme anger. It's usually repetitive, not a 1time act. Yes you do have to disclose all health issues to employers or you would be providing false information which is lying on a job application. I didn't hear it was a chemical imbalance from anyone, I read it in a book about 9 years ago, when I first started learning everything I could about mental disorders, in an attempt to help someone who is ADHD and bipolar. Here are some more names of people with Bipolar: Abe Lincoln, Jesse Jackson Jr., Isaac Newton, Frank Sinatra Van Gogh, Brittany Spears, Van Damme. Scientist have made an educated guess using the life history of both Einstein and Franklin, the behaviors they presented, the creativeness they showed, and their of way of living, and from what scientist do know, they are using factual material to assume from the symptoms they had that they were indeed ADHD. So I guess since you need to take it up with the SS Administration for telling you Bipolar is not a disability, cause they lied to you, you may want to take it up with Scientist for guessing both men had ADHD too. You should spend less time lying to people on here and more time trying to learn about the topic you want to discuss on here. Get a clue. I do not talk about things that I know nothing about.

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