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Penn Valley, CA

#43 Jun 9, 2010
Jezz wrote:
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Hell Yes!!!!!!!!!!
I agree.
cosmic vibe

Oakley, CA

#44 Jun 9, 2010
I'll vote for anyone who promises to legalize the green gift... marijuana.
Anon

San Francisco, CA

#45 Jun 9, 2010
DeportOrlyTaitz wrote:
BZZZT - Brown and Boxer are not elitists.
What exactly do you mean is "dangerous redistributive socialism" anyways? Smells something like Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh would say -- then again, they never back up their facts ...
You're a tool.
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Really? So these multimillionaires, literally, one percenters, who share none of the problems facing the ordinary/average citizen, aren't elitists? how does that work, exactly? Rich, powerful, etc.

Explain it to me, because maybe I'm not getting it. People like boxer and brown are pretty quick with other people's money.
And they can afford to be, 20% one way or the other doesn't matter one bit to them. Most of us live and die on 20%. The average savings rate is maybe 3%, and that's just this year. For years it was negative.
cosmic vibe

Oakley, CA

#46 Jun 9, 2010
majijuana is natures greatest gift. it is the oppressive government who is stopping it from bearing fruit in the world. Just imagine the peace and harmony if we all cultivated this beutiful crop together. we could harvest the hemp for our clothing and use the herb for its therapeutic and medicinal purposes.
dbunker

San Francisco, CA

#48 Jun 10, 2010
Dems.wake up! the far left have hijacked your party and brains. How can minorities who shot down prop.8 vote for a leut.gov who openly stands for everything against your culture and religion,wake the hell up! The progressive movement is in full swing and you accept the false ideaolgy of these radical lunies,racist and prejudice parasites,they are tearing down your culture,religion and gods, you have lost your minds? wake up!
RealityBytes

Mountain View, CA

#49 Jun 14, 2010
Well look at it this way since as you said, you don't get it:

Brown and Boxer have spent the majority of their careers fighting to help people who are less fortunate than themselves. Brown and Boxer's JOB is to spend our taxpayer money for the common good. That is the way it is - that is the purpose of government.

Chances are neither of them are in the top 1% of the nation's wealth, in fact I doubt they are in the top 10% either.

So are you trying to tell me because they are "smart", "care about people" and happen to have money they are elitists? Are you stupid?

Look at who they are running against. Meg Whitman took $80 MILLION DOLLARS of her own money to fight Poizner. What was her approach? Not I am the better candidate and here are my plans - it was "Poizner is more liberal than me - vote for me!" Maybe it's me but that's not a platform, that's $80 MILLION DOLLARS invested in libel and slander. Hardly a smart woman.

Then you have Carly Fiorina - a "true" elitist who has screwed two companies and countless thousands of people and she has admitted she'd do it again. The woman is a card carrying member of the moron movement and frankly California can't afford to have a woman that selfish, that clueless and that "elite" in the senate.

If you think since they are wealthy they will work for the rest of us because she has enough? Guess again - it's women like them who won't quit until we all are bankrupt and they have everything...

Now stop watching Fox News, reading NewsMax and learn!!!!
Anon wrote:
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Really? So these multimillionaires, literally, one percenters, who share none of the problems facing the ordinary/average citizen, aren't elitists? how does that work, exactly? Rich, powerful, etc.
Explain it to me, because maybe I'm not getting it. People like boxer and brown are pretty quick with other people's money.
And they can afford to be, 20% one way or the other doesn't matter one bit to them. Most of us live and die on 20%. The average savings rate is maybe 3%, and that's just this year. For years it was negative.
RealityBytes

Mountain View, CA

#50 Jun 14, 2010
You know I *WISH* the Left has hijacked the party - then at least things would get done. The problem is that the blue dog democrats think that they are doing us a favor by pretending they are democrats but act like Republicans.

Seriously, the loons are the ones on the right... the ones on the left were the ones who voted AGAINST proposition 8 ... come on... wake up!!!!
dbunker wrote:
Dems.wake up! the far left have hijacked your party and brains. How can minorities who shot down prop.8 vote for a leut.gov who openly stands for everything against your culture and religion,wake the hell up! The progressive movement is in full swing and you accept the false ideaolgy of these radical lunies,racist and prejudice parasites,they are tearing down your culture,religion and gods, you have lost your minds? wake up!
GetLostPotHead

Mountain View, CA

#51 Jun 14, 2010
Reading your post makes me want to criminalize even more. We don't need more decriminalization, I say incarcerate them, force them to work hard labor and fix our streets.

We won't have peace and harmony with pot, we'll have a society of brain dead fools like you who have no idea what reality is...

I am sick and tired of seeing marijuana collectives everywhere... We are becoming worse than Amsterdam!!! WTF is wrong with us?
cosmic vibe wrote:
majijuana is natures greatest gift. it is the oppressive government who is stopping it from bearing fruit in the world. Just imagine the peace and harmony if we all cultivated this beutiful crop together. we could harvest the hemp for our clothing and use the herb for its therapeutic and medicinal purposes.
Anon

San Francisco, CA

#52 Jun 14, 2010
Actually in the Netherlands marijuana use is less prevalent than here in the states.

See, the facts don't bear out your theory that legal marijuana is a destructive force on society. THe Netherlands are one of the more prosperous northern European countries.

What drags down America is imperialism (all this military spending all over the planet), and all of its attendant spending problems, as well as an unsustainable welfare state: all these illegals sapping our system dry and killing us with anchor baby dependents.

We just need a couple changes: a return to constitutionally limited federal government so that the government can't pursue these globalist ideals that don't serve Americans, and for example, a constitutional amendment (or revision to the 14th) making it clear that there is no such thing as birthright citizenship and deporting anyone who is not a legal citizen under the auspices of one legal parent.

If we quit the imperialism and the welfare-statism, we'd be fine. No problems. Oh, and we should be nationalistic - and put heavy tariffs on imports and make it financially unfeasible for US companies to outsource their jobs.
Anon

San Francisco, CA

#53 Jun 14, 2010
RealityBytes wrote:
Well look at it this way since as you said, you don't get it:
Brown and Boxer have spent the majority of their careers fighting to help people who are less fortunate than themselves. Brown and Boxer's JOB is to spend our taxpayer money for the common good. That is the way it is - that is the purpose of government.
Chances are neither of them are in the top 1% of the nation's wealth, in fact I doubt they are in the top 10% either.
So are you trying to tell me because they are "smart", "care about people" and happen to have money they are elitists? Are you stupid?
Look at who they are running against. Meg Whitman took $80 MILLION DOLLARS of her own money to fight Poizner. What was her approach? Not I am the better candidate and here are my plans - it was "Poizner is more liberal than me - vote for me!" Maybe it's me but that's not a platform, that's $80 MILLION DOLLARS invested in libel and slander. Hardly a smart woman.
Then you have Carly Fiorina - a "true" elitist who has screwed two companies and countless thousands of people and she has admitted she'd do it again. The woman is a card carrying member of the moron movement and frankly California can't afford to have a woman that selfish, that clueless and that "elite" in the senate.
If you think since they are wealthy they will work for the rest of us because she has enough? Guess again - it's women like them who won't quit until we all are bankrupt and they have everything...
Now stop watching Fox News, reading NewsMax and learn!!!!
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Brown and Boxer are both one percenters. You clearly have no clue how much wealth they have. Boxer is married, and her marital assets are huge, in addition to whatever she has on her own. Jerry Brown is a multi millionaire many times over.
Anon

San Francisco, CA

#54 Jun 14, 2010
You were just too lazy to even spend a minute on Google finding out that Boxer is rich, huh?
I found this within the top 3 search results in less than 10 seconds.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics...

That's from 2005, think how much richer she is today.
GetLostPotHead

Mountain View, CA

#55 Jun 14, 2010
OK so I am being a bit snarky with the NL pot comment. I will even agree with you so far as the fact we are spending too much money on our military presence overseas.

However, that's about where we stop. The reason why there is an abundance of anchor babies is due to the fact that the countries where their parents come from are so corrupt that they feel compelled to come here for a better life. While I will openly admit not every undocumented immigrant is good and pure, there are a lot out there who work a hell of a lot harder than our entitled youth who think that they 'deserve' an iPod or 'demand' a cell phone from their parents.

What we do need is a way that we take care of our own citizenry first. Give them healthcare -- good health care and give them an education -- something useful that will provide value. If that means that person gets a job as a mechanic, fine. However, if someone wants to be an engineer, yes absolutely help that person ASAP.

OK - one last thing -- yes I agree with you about the tarriffs part. Looks like we agree more than I thought :D
Anon wrote:
Actually in the Netherlands marijuana use is less prevalent than here in the states.
See, the facts don't bear out your theory that legal marijuana is a destructive force on society. THe Netherlands are one of the more prosperous northern European countries.
What drags down America is imperialism (all this military spending all over the planet), and all of its attendant spending problems, as well as an unsustainable welfare state: all these illegals sapping our system dry and killing us with anchor baby dependents.
We just need a couple changes: a return to constitutionally limited federal government so that the government can't pursue these globalist ideals that don't serve Americans, and for example, a constitutional amendment (or revision to the 14th) making it clear that there is no such thing as birthright citizenship and deporting anyone who is not a legal citizen under the auspices of one legal parent.
If we quit the imperialism and the welfare-statism, we'd be fine. No problems. Oh, and we should be nationalistic - and put heavy tariffs on imports and make it financially unfeasible for US companies to outsource their jobs.
GetLostPotHead

Mountain View, CA

#56 Jun 14, 2010
No they aren't... seriously. I know exactly how much they have and their net worths are not even close to Fiorina and Whitman.

Come on... you are comparing multimillionaires with multiBILLIIONAIRES.

Idiot.
Anon wrote:
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Brown and Boxer are both one percenters. You clearly have no clue how much wealth they have. Boxer is married, and her marital assets are huge, in addition to whatever she has on her own. Jerry Brown is a multi millionaire many times over.
Anon

San Francisco, CA

#58 Jun 15, 2010
GetLostPotHead wrote:
No they aren't... seriously. I know exactly how much they have and their net worths are not even close to Fiorina and Whitman.
Come on... you are comparing multimillionaires with multiBILLIIONAIRES.
Idiot.
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Yah, but it is the same percentile billionaires inhabit. They are all in the top 1%, but a billionaire is just in even more rarified territory. If world population is 6.5B, and there are only about 700 billionaires, then billionaires are by definition less than 1 out of every 70M people.
Yah, Carly and Meg have a lot of money. But its more of an academic difference. It is so far removed from what the "rest of us" have, that it isn't like some kind of vast gulf with billionaires on one side and Brown and Boxer they are all so much richer than nearly everyone.
BTW, only Meg is a billionaire. And a barely one at that. Not that it makes any real difference. Carly doesn't even crack 100M. But what difference does that make? Even Carly has probably 100 times the wealth of even well capitalized upper middle class residents of the Bay Area.
If you want to try to spin this as not being elite, have at it. Losing proposition though.
Here's the ranking:
Whitman: 1B+
Fiorina: 25-50M
Boxer: 10-20M
Brown: 10-20M
Yes, sure Meg is way out ahead but they are ALL many times more wealthy than MOST Californians will EVER be. Most people will never accumulate 1M in assets, let alone 10-15. Most people will never accumulate even 500K in assets. Average net wealth in this country is pretty low, way under 100K.
oh no u idnt even idnt

Antioch, CA

#59 Jun 15, 2010
MagnoliaWarbler wrote:
Do you vote in primary elections? My polling place was completely deserted this morning.
none of your business
johnny walker

Adelanto, CA

#60 Jun 15, 2010
i dont like being a democrat. i dont want to be a republican eaither. all politicians are liers. they are telling us that they will do something about the illegal alien problem. they wont. thats why its a problem. and thatsd why they are liers.they say they will create jobs. for who illegal aliens.i hate politicians. meg witman is a cold blooded lier. brown is seenial.los angeles city council are a bunch of fools. former cardnal mahoney likes to touch little boys. the police chief of los angeles said he will not inforce the law when it comes to illegal aliens. arnold swartsaniger ius a ratt.
Mac-8

Mountain View, CA

#61 Jun 16, 2010
Losing proposition? Hardly.

Let's take a moment to figure out why; Even by your own calculations Fiorina's net worth easily surpasses both Boxer and Brown by a factor of FIVE. That's not an academic difference - those are real numbers. It's silly to think otherwise.

Besides, you're wrong about Carly's worth being about 100x more than the average well capitalized upper middle class person in the SF Bay Area.

Despite the fact the housing market has went down somewhat, it's not that challenging for someone to have a relatively high net worth on paper or even if they own real estate. If you own more than one property, that's actually quite easy.

In any case, pretending that Whitman and Fiorina are only slightly more wealthy than Brown or Boxer is the equivalent of saying that Barry Bonds is only marginally better than a little leaguer.

You see how stupid that sounds? Probably not... Then again it's always easier to claim elitist when you don't even know what it means...
Anon wrote:
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Yah, but it is the same percentile billionaires inhabit. They are all in the top 1%, but a billionaire is just in even more rarified territory. If world population is 6.5B, and there are only about 700 billionaires, then billionaires are by definition less than 1 out of every 70M people.
Yah, Carly and Meg have a lot of money. But its more of an academic difference. It is so far removed from what the "rest of us" have, that it isn't like some kind of vast gulf with billionaires on one side and Brown and Boxer they are all so much richer than nearly everyone.
BTW, only Meg is a billionaire. And a barely one at that. Not that it makes any real difference. Carly doesn't even crack 100M. But what difference does that make? Even Carly has probably 100 times the wealth of even well capitalized upper middle class residents of the Bay Area.
If you want to try to spin this as not being elite, have at it. Losing proposition though.
Here's the ranking:
Whitman: 1B+
Fiorina: 25-50M
Boxer: 10-20M
Brown: 10-20M
Yes, sure Meg is way out ahead but they are ALL many times more wealthy than MOST Californians will EVER be. Most people will never accumulate 1M in assets, let alone 10-15. Most people will never accumulate even 500K in assets. Average net wealth in this country is pretty low, way under 100K.
Mac-8

Mountain View, CA

#62 Jun 16, 2010
Learn to spell or invest in a spell checker... you sound like an idiot.
johnny walker wrote:
i dont like being a democrat. i dont want to be a republican eaither. all politicians are liers. they are telling us that they will do something about the illegal alien problem. they wont. thats why its a problem. and thatsd why they are liers.they say they will create jobs. for who illegal aliens.i hate politicians. meg witman is a cold blooded lier. brown is seenial.los angeles city council are a bunch of fools. former cardnal mahoney likes to touch little boys. the police chief of los angeles said he will not inforce the law when it comes to illegal aliens. arnold swartsaniger ius a ratt.
Anon

San Francisco, CA

#63 Jun 16, 2010
Mac-8 wrote:
Losing proposition? Hardly.
Let's take a moment to figure out why; Even by your own calculations Fiorina's net worth easily surpasses both Boxer and Brown by a factor of FIVE. That's not an academic difference - those are real numbers. It's silly to think otherwise.
Besides, you're wrong about Carly's worth being about 100x more than the average well capitalized upper middle class person in the SF Bay Area.
Despite the fact the housing market has went down somewhat, it's not that challenging for someone to have a relatively high net worth on paper or even if they own real estate. If you own more than one property, that's actually quite easy.
In any case, pretending that Whitman and Fiorina are only slightly more wealthy than Brown or Boxer is the equivalent of saying that Barry Bonds is only marginally better than a little leaguer.
You see how stupid that sounds? Probably not... Then again it's always easier to claim elitist when you don't even know what it means...
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Why are you defending the elites, dude? Its not like you're ever going to be one. My point is these people, none of them, will ever have a financial problem that common ordinary Californians have, like making the rent, or buying food, or car insurance, or being able to afford college, or to go on vacation.
They are the elites, no matter how you dice it up. And yes, Carly has 100x more wealth than the average Bay Area resident. You think people all OWN their homes outright? That 100% of their house is unencumbered? Most people with mortgages in this country are underwater. Do you understand what that means? That more people owe more on their mortgages than they are worth, than those who don't.
Average net worth in the Bay Area is probably a bit higher than the rest of the country, but I'd guess its probably not twice as much. It's probably greater by about the same percentage as income and housing is greater. That'd be my estimate.
Sure there are millionaires around here, lots of them even, but they are still a statistically insignificant percentage of the whole.
BTW, the average person doesn't even own one property, let alone two. Get your facts straight. http://www.danter.com/statistics/homeown.htm

See that? 67% of American households own a home. But, what they don't say in the article is that the home is mortgaged, not owned. The average American mortgage payment is more than 1000/month. Besides, most of the homes are owned by couples, so the home is owned between them, not by them individually. Thus, the average American does not even own one home.
Anon

San Francisco, CA

#64 Jun 16, 2010
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news...

Mortgages underwater.

And when rates reset, it will touch off a new round of foreclosures and default and that percentage will go up even higher. That's possibly less than a year away.

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