Duke fires up coal plant plans

Jan 29, 2008 Read more: Asheville Citizen-Times 20
With government approval in hand, Duke Energy said Tuesday it would start work immediately on a new coal-fired unit in Rutherford County. Read more
Roy

Maiden, NC

#1 Jan 30, 2008
So, the NIMBYs are protesting a cleaner coal plant, to replace older, dirtier plants? A new plant that will be under much more stringent emissions requirements?

They are so shortsighted. What do they think is happening to the population of the United States? Data shows its growing. Are we using more or less electricity now? More.

Why wouldn't they want a cleaner plant replacing dirty units?

Myopic.
Andy

Hialeah, FL

#2 Jan 30, 2008
Duke doesn't care about "clean mountain air!" It's a shame to see how coal-fired power plants have ruined the environmental quality of WNC.

“BEAT A PAIR OF JACK'S & A FOX ”

Since: Feb 07

ASHEVILLE

#3 Jan 30, 2008
Fire it up Duke. We need the elect. to keep all the houses lit up. Their is plenty of coal to keep-er-goin. Do what you gotta do to keep up with the supply and demand.

Don't worry about all the tree huggers. They are always gonna be complanin bout some Damn thing or another.
updatefrom ga

Secaucus, NJ

#4 Jan 30, 2008
You people amaze me. How could anyone #1 believe anything a big business/industry says and #2 support jobs over public health. Already Western North Carolina has been deemed a cancer cluster area. Maybe both of you need to schedule a CT Scan.
1911-govt

Bailey, NC

#5 Jan 30, 2008
We should be putting a great effort into alternative energy sources.

That said, until we get there we should be using the resources we have rather than importing them.

Drill for oil in the gulf -- every body else (including that trash from Venezuela) does.

Drill in ANWAR. I can remember when the same lame arguments were used against the Alaskan Pipeline.

Open more areas for natural gas exploration.

Mine more coal.
Paul Varner

United States

#6 Jan 30, 2008
Go for it , Duke-sters.
We've got a coal plant where I live , and it works like a charm. Very clean.
Hope the Nimby's are ready to burn a lot of the tree-huggers timber as their alternative.
Go for it , Duke-sters. With you all the way.
Always open to new ideas

AOL

#7 Jan 30, 2008
Soon many of us will be plugging in our new electric cars. When that starts two things will happen, we will have shortages and the price will go up.
health first

United States

#8 Jan 30, 2008
updatefrom ga wrote:
You people amaze me. How could anyone #1 believe anything a big business/industry says and #2 support jobs over public health. Already Western North Carolina has been deemed a cancer cluster area. Maybe both of you need to schedule a CT Scan.
Yes! This is not an environmental issue, it is a public health issue. The particulate matter from the plant will kill hundreds of people, even with the new scrubbers attached. By agreeing to a permit for this plant, the government agency that approved the permit has stated the lives of the community members are not worth much. Think about that, would you kill your neighbor, just to have cheap power? It's a sad day here in NC. The poor children that will suffer asthma, what did they do to Duke to deserve chronic sickness?
CJOHHNY

Hickory, NC

#9 Jan 30, 2008
My dogs like mercury food
and Ayeceed rayne
FU1time

Asheville, NC

#10 Jan 30, 2008
1911-govt wrote:
We should be putting a great effort into alternative energy sources.
That said, until we get there we should be using the resources we have rather than importing them.
Drill for oil in the gulf -- every body else (including that trash from Venezuela) does.
Drill in ANWAR. I can remember when the same lame arguments were used against the Alaskan Pipeline.
Open more areas for natural gas exploration.
Mine more coal.
So which part of your plan actually involves alternative energy?
FU1time

Asheville, NC

#11 Jan 30, 2008
Paul Varner wrote:
Go for it , Duke-sters.
We've got a coal plant where I live , and it works like a charm. Very clean.
Hope the Nimby's are ready to burn a lot of the tree-huggers timber as their alternative.
Go for it , Duke-sters. With you all the way.
Psst: I hate to shatter your igornant bliss, but you can't see or smell carbon dioxide, mercury or "fine article soot" - which causes the most health problems of all.
FU1time

Asheville, NC

#12 Jan 30, 2008
CJOHNNY wrote:
Fire it up Duke. We need the elect. to keep all the houses lit up. Their is plenty of coal to keep-er-goin. Do what you gotta do to keep up with the supply and demand.
Don't worry about all the tree huggers. They are always gonna be complanin bout some Damn thing or another.
In that case, let me be the first complain about your abuse of the written language.
FU1time

Asheville, NC

#13 Jan 30, 2008
Roy wrote:
So, the NIMBYs are protesting a cleaner coal plant, to replace older, dirtier plants? A new plant that will be under much more stringent emissions requirements?
They are so shortsighted. What do they think is happening to the population of the United States? Data shows its growing. Are we using more or less electricity now? More.
Why wouldn't they want a cleaner plant replacing dirty units?
Myopic.
Actually, I sort of agree with this. Make no mistake: Burning coal will always be a filthy proposition and consequently about as horrible an energy choice as we could ever make, but IF the new plant actually follows EPA guidelines and uses ALL available anti-pollution technology, it will be an improvement over what Rutherford County is spewing out now.

But that's a big if, since power companies have spent the last 30 years doing everything in their power to avoid doing just that. The irony is that if they'd readily embraced EPA standards they'd have a much better reputation in the general public and would probably be able to get away with polluting a lot more than people bothered to notice, but their short-term greed has exposed them as shameless environmental destroyers. So I'll believe this new plant will be "clean" when I see it.
Jack Jr

Charlotte, NC

#15 Jan 30, 2008
Go Nuclear Baby. Lets Build Some New AP-1000 Reactors.
ben spivey

United States

#16 Jan 30, 2008
WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF OIL, SO WE ARE TOLD, I THINK ITS BULL. SO THE FOLKS ON WALL STREET CAN GET FAT.THESE ENVIRNMENTAL PEOPLE NEED TO GO LIVE IS CHINA, OR SET IN THE DARK, WHEN YOU BURN SOMTHING, YOU GOING TO HAVE SMOKE. I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYONE OF THEM WANTING TO SUE THE CAR MAKERS TO STOP MAKING CARS, SEEMS LIKE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ENERGY, THEY WANT TO SHUT THE PROJECT DOWN. SEE, ANY THING THAT FITS THEIR NEED, IS OK.
Paul Varner

United States

#17 Jan 30, 2008
FU1time wrote:
<quoted text>
Psst: I hate to shatter your igornant bliss, but you can't see or smell carbon dioxide, mercury or "fine article soot" - which causes the most health problems of all.
I've got a might fine Suit which I was sold as a "fine article" . Is that what you're talking about? Never had any complaints when I wore it to Sunday service.
health first

United States

#18 Jan 30, 2008
FU1time wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I sort of agree with this. Make no mistake: Burning coal will always be a filthy proposition and consequently about as horrible an energy choice as we could ever make, but IF the new plant actually follows EPA guidelines and uses ALL available anti-pollution technology, it will be an improvement over what Rutherford County is spewing out now.
But that's a big if, since power companies have spent the last 30 years doing everything in their power to avoid doing just that. The irony is that if they'd readily embraced EPA standards they'd have a much better reputation in the general public and would probably be able to get away with polluting a lot more than people bothered to notice, but their short-term greed has exposed them as shameless environmental destroyers. So I'll believe this new plant will be "clean" when I see it.
Here is the problem as I see it. Coal could be cleaned up, and the CO2 sequestered deep in the earth, but that cost money. This increase in cost is passed on to the consumer. No big deal to me, I am willing to pay to clean up the air, in fact it is a patriotic duty to make the USA as clean as possible. When the cost of energy from coal reaches the point that it cost to install and use alternative sources, the market will shift to alternative sources. Not good if you are dependent on coal to make your stockholders happy. Let's not kid anyone, Duke is a business that has to answer to its stockholders. Dirty coal is cheap, clean coal is expensive. We pay over $3 a gallon for gas as it is without rioting in the streets, we will comply just the same when our power bills go up too.

Now, it is illegal for me to go over to your house and kill you, why should it be legal for Duke to come into a community and kill citizens? I say Fred Alexander should have to spend the day at Mission on the Peds unit holding children that have childhood asthma from coal plants.
health first

United States

#19 Jan 30, 2008
ben spivey wrote:
WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF OIL, SO WE ARE TOLD, I THINK ITS BULL. SO THE FOLKS ON WALL STREET CAN GET FAT.THESE ENVIRNMENTAL PEOPLE NEED TO GO LIVE IS CHINA, OR SET IN THE DARK, WHEN YOU BURN SOMTHING, YOU GOING TO HAVE SMOKE. I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYONE OF THEM WANTING TO SUE THE CAR MAKERS TO STOP MAKING CARS, SEEMS LIKE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ENERGY, THEY WANT TO SHUT THE PROJECT DOWN. SEE, ANY THING THAT FITS THEIR NEED, IS OK.
Wrong. The Bush administration's EPA just shut down more that 15 states trying to bring lawsuits over car emissions. You are just wrong.
huggy

Arden, NC

#20 Jan 30, 2008
Now I can plug in my electric car.

“BEAT A PAIR OF JACK'S & A FOX ”

Since: Feb 07

ASHEVILLE

#21 Jan 30, 2008
FU1time wrote:
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In that case, let me be the first complain about your abuse of the written language.
YOU GOT THE POINT DIDN'T YA.

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