Milaca student suspended for leaving ...

Milaca student suspended for leaving hunting bow in truck

There are 71 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Oct 2, 2008, titled Milaca student suspended for leaving hunting bow in truck. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

A Milaca High School senior is on suspension after leaving his hunting bow in his SUV that was parked at school.

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Consistent

Since: Mar 08

Zimmerman, MN

#21 Oct 3, 2008
Really wrote:
And if he HAD been planning on using it for some bad purpose, or someone had stolen it from his car and used it for a bad pupose, everyone on here would be OK with him getting suspended. Bottom line, he broke a rule, remember those things that apply to everyone else? That's the problem now, parents freak out if their kid gets in trouble for breaking rules that they knew about, and then when the kid gets old enough they think it's ok to "make a mistake" because the rules don't apply to them.
Why should the school have to defend itself against suspending someone that broke a rule? If the kid was not so popular, or didn't play footbal, and left a gun (weapon, just like a bow) in his car, everyone would be outraged that a full investigation wasn't done.
If hunting is such a big thing in Milaca, then he should have known about the "no weapons" rule, besides the fact that every year I'm sure he gets a student handbook with rules in it. Maybe if he's not responsible enough to follow the rules, he's not responsible enough to carry around a weapon.
The ISSUE is the school lessons (Indoctrination) taught by the "Rules".
Really

San Pablo, CA

#22 Oct 3, 2008
Rarely wrote:
This is just so insane! I think the football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful is not someone I would suspect of 'snapping' and going to his truck during third period to take out his oppressors. Obviously you also have to look at the kid. 99% of people realize this is ridiculous.
That's why my kids go to private schools, so they aren't taught the mentality that if you can catch a ball you're automatically given a free pass to everything.

So the kid that listens to punk music and doesn't sit with the cool kids at lunch should be fully investigated but the the football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful should get a free pass? WAY TO GO TEACHING ETHICS!!!!

What I can imagine? The football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful teasing the weird kid with his bow, maybe as a joke, and then the weird kid getting tired of it all because the the football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful and all his friends have been so mean to him for so long in a small town school, that the "weird" kid finally snaps and brings his own bow to school and kills someone.

Or I can imagine this kid running around bragging about breaking the rule, and figuring he could get away with it since he's the football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful, and obviously everyone on here that feels so much pity for him just reinforces the point to all the kids in their town that you don't have to listen to school officials, the rules they make are stupid.
Really

San Pablo, CA

#23 Oct 3, 2008
Consistent wrote:
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The ISSUE is the school lessons (Indoctrination) taught by the "Rules".
If people don't like the "rules" that public schools have, no weapons, no smoking, have to go to class, etc, then they should pay for a different school or home school. Oh, wait, that's too much effort, so they'll just complain. When I went to school, you followed the rules, or you went to detention, or got suspended, etc. And when you got home, you got in trouble for not listening. My mom HATED my principal, but the day I got detention for skipping a class that I was transferring out of anyway, she definitley reminded me that he was my PRINCIPAL, the rule was I went to class even if it was the last day, and since I didn't, I deserved exactly what I got.

I can't imagine what would have happened if I had brought any type of weapon to school, and this was before Columbine, etc. We still had a zero tolerance policy back then too.

Consistent

Since: Mar 08

Zimmerman, MN

#24 Oct 3, 2008
Really wrote:
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That's why my kids go to private schools, so they aren't taught the mentality that if you can catch a ball you're automatically given a free pass to everything.
So the kid that listens to punk music and doesn't sit with the cool kids at lunch should be fully investigated but the the football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful should get a free pass? WAY TO GO TEACHING ETHICS!!!!
What I can imagine? The football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful teasing the weird kid with his bow, maybe as a joke, and then the weird kid getting tired of it all because the the football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful and all his friends have been so mean to him for so long in a small town school, that the "weird" kid finally snaps and brings his own bow to school and kills someone.
Or I can imagine this kid running around bragging about breaking the rule, and figuring he could get away with it since he's the football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful, and obviously everyone on here that feels so much pity for him just reinforces the point to all the kids in their town that you don't have to listen to school officials, the rules they make are stupid.
LOL........you have just created a clear image of who you, and unfortunately for him/her.......who your child has become, raised by you.

Gimme the Kid with the Bow, that is not subservient.
asdf

Park Rapids, MN

#25 Oct 3, 2008
I believe that you need an arrow for it to be a weapon.
hbirch

Forest Lake, MN

#26 Oct 3, 2008
Well in high school around [1980] we use to go duck hunting right after school. So I always came with shot gun shells all the duck decoys. And never had a problem. Half the time it was a joke with the principal who could get out of school faster on Fridays. Boy have Times changed Must of been all those Time Outs kids had to do When Bad...

Consistent

Since: Mar 08

Zimmerman, MN

#27 Oct 3, 2008
There is nothing sadder than a Human Being with a Broken spirit.

Who the F**k told our Public Schools that is in their mission statement to create automatons!
Ryan - St Paul

Cottage Grove, MN

#28 Oct 3, 2008
We Shot Bow and Arrow in Gym class when I was in High School.
COPDd

Nevis, MN

#29 Oct 3, 2008
This is the kind of angst you get when you combine trial lawyers with a bunch of much publicized school killings. As a society, we need to take an unemotional & honest look at our culture, and correct the disfunctional aspects of it.
Really

San Pablo, CA

#30 Oct 3, 2008
Consistent wrote:
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LOL........you have just created a clear image of who you, and unfortunately for him/her.......who your child has become, raised by you.
Gimme the Kid with the Bow, that is not subservient.
My kids are far from subservient, they can and have been taught to think for themselves, but also to follow basic rules and respect their authority figures. They don't whine when they get in trouble for doing things wrong. They don't expect any adult to do it for them either. They understand that it's OK to question things they don't agree with, but to go about making changes the right way. They also are taught that no matter how many good grades you get or how great your score is, your not above anyone else when it comes to following rules. There the type of kids that grow up to be your boss. Please get over trying to turn this into "this kid was standing up for his rights!". That's BS, he broke a rule, and if he was so worried about it and so honest, he would have gone to his administator and said "hey, I forgot, I have to bring it home" instead of telling everyone "I have it in my car hahaha".

You just like to pick a fight with anyone that disagrees with you, because you're so unbelievably witty (to yourself anyway). But if this kid had shot that arrow at someone, you'd be the first one to condem the school for not doing something about it. Or if this kid was from N Minneapolis and had left a weapon in his car, you'd be the first to say "what's wrong with the parents?"

Let me guess, your kids can count on you to call the school and throw a screaming fit everytime they get in trouble, because the schools are so shot that they just don't know your kids deserve a break, just no one else does.
Really

San Pablo, CA

#31 Oct 3, 2008
Consistent wrote:
There is nothing sadder than a Human Being with a Broken spirit.
Who the F**k told our Public Schools that is in their mission statement to create automatons!
Ok, fine. There should be no rules to follow, we'll just let them run wild, bring weapons to school, do whatever they want, and then hand out dicipline based on who we like the most. Then we won't have automatons, we'll have a bunch of "next in line for prison" kids. Unless of course, the cop likes them the best, then he doesn't have to arrest them for the crime they committ in the future.

For all the comments you handed out about the protestors in St. Paul, and how they were disruptive, you sure are supportive of the rural kid that broke a school rule. Oh wait, he's not a long haired hippie that stops traffic.
Really

San Pablo, CA

#32 Oct 3, 2008
hbirch wrote:
Well in high school around [1980] we use to go duck hunting right after school. So I always came with shot gun shells all the duck decoys. And never had a problem. Half the time it was a joke with the principal who could get out of school faster on Fridays. Boy have Times changed Must of been all those Time Outs kids had to do When Bad...
Right, there parents should have spanked them, not given them stupid punishments that let them get away with anything. That's why we have bullies, school shootings, and zero tolerance policies. Sucks for everyone, but needed. Buying a sword in a foreign country got a kid suspended these days. I really agree with the fact that it's too bad we need these rules, but times have changed too much, and they don't go back to the way it was.

JTY

Since: Sep 08

Olathe, KS

#33 Oct 3, 2008
What they don't say is that he also had a copy of "The most dangerious game" by Richard Connell in his glove compartment.
drunkoncouch

Minneapolis, MN

#34 Oct 3, 2008
If enough students disobeyed this policy at the same time the school would have no choice but to suspend all of them similtaneuosly. Schools are funded by attendance are are closed when attendance fell to a certain low point. A little organization would hit them in the budget.
drunkoncouch

Minneapolis, MN

#35 Oct 3, 2008
I also had archery in High school. We played golf and softball. Now a golf club and an aluminum bat are also weapons. They have to draw the line. How about a scissors or a sharp pencil?

JTY

Since: Sep 08

Olathe, KS

#36 Oct 3, 2008
drunkoncouch wrote:
I also had archery in High school. We played golf and softball. Now a golf club and an aluminum bat are also weapons. They have to draw the line. How about a scissors or a sharp pencil?
Or a box cutter?
Keiths Friend

Chaska, MN

#37 Oct 3, 2008
Tired of it all wrote:
The kid is an idiot. He knew he had it in there. Big deal. He had it covered up. He should have kept his pie hole closed, did his school day, drove home and the world would have kept turning.
But no.....he told on himself? What an idiot. To bad they did not expel him for the year just for his stupidity.
Dude, Im a student in Milaca, Keith is a close friend of mine, and he 'told on himself' because it was the right thing to do. Teachers TELL us to tell them if we have a weapon, he told and he got suspened. How is that his fault? Dont just assume you dumbass.
Kieths Friend

Chaska, MN

#38 Oct 3, 2008
Really wrote:
<quoted text>
My kids are far from subservient, they can and have been taught to think for themselves, but also to follow basic rules and respect their authority figures. They don't whine when they get in trouble for doing things wrong. They don't expect any adult to do it for them either. They understand that it's OK to question things they don't agree with, but to go about making changes the right way. They also are taught that no matter how many good grades you get or how great your score is, your not above anyone else when it comes to following rules. There the type of kids that grow up to be your boss. Please get over trying to turn this into "this kid was standing up for his rights!". That's BS, he broke a rule, and if he was so worried about it and so honest, he would have gone to his administator and said "hey, I forgot, I have to bring it home" instead of telling everyone "I have it in my car hahaha".
You just like to pick a fight with anyone that disagrees with you, because you're so unbelievably witty (to yourself anyway). But if this kid had shot that arrow at someone, you'd be the first one to condem the school for not doing something about it. Or if this kid was from N Minneapolis and had left a weapon in his car, you'd be the first to say "what's wrong with the parents?"
Let me guess, your kids can count on you to call the school and throw a screaming fit everytime they get in trouble, because the schools are so shot that they just don't know your kids deserve a break, just no one else does.
Shut up.

I bet you 5 bucks your kids are just as bad as every other kid when youre not around. Dont take your biased little perspective and try and fit it to a different situation. It wont work and just makes you look like a fool.

Oh, and btw HE DID GO TO A TEACHER AND TELL THEM HE HAD A BOW. AS WE HAVE BEEN TOLD TO DO IN SCHOOL. READ THE STORY BEFORE POSTING MORON.
Kieths Friend

Chaska, MN

#39 Oct 3, 2008
Really wrote:
<quoted text>
That's why my kids go to private schools, so they aren't taught the mentality that if you can catch a ball you're automatically given a free pass to everything.
So the kid that listens to punk music and doesn't sit with the cool kids at lunch should be fully investigated but the the football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful should get a free pass? WAY TO GO TEACHING ETHICS!!!!
What I can imagine? The football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful teasing the weird kid with his bow, maybe as a joke, and then the weird kid getting tired of it all because the the football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful and all his friends have been so mean to him for so long in a small town school, that the "weird" kid finally snaps and brings his own bow to school and kills someone.
Or I can imagine this kid running around bragging about breaking the rule, and figuring he could get away with it since he's the football player/captain of wrestling team/homecoming king hopeful, and obviously everyone on here that feels so much pity for him just reinforces the point to all the kids in their town that you don't have to listen to school officials, the rules they make are stupid.
You show your stupidity again. He didnt 'brag' to we, the students. He told a teacher, as we have been taught to do, that he had a weapon in his car, what the administrator should have done then is go and confiscate it. NOT suspend him. He got wrongly punished even though he followed the rules.
Tired of it all

Saint Paul, MN

#40 Oct 3, 2008
Keiths Friend wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude, Im a student in Milaca, Keith is a close friend of mine, and he 'told on himself' because it was the right thing to do. Teachers TELL us to tell them if we have a weapon, he told and he got suspened. How is that his fault? Dont just assume you ****.
Dude, in the real world after you grow up you will find that if something bad occurs and you can keep it quite and fix it without the world knowing about it you will do it that way.

I am sorry but telling the truth all the time will not get you anywhere. What good did it do your buddy. If he kept quiet, finished school for the day and drove home, all would be well, and no one would have been hurt.

A wise salesperson told me one day when I had issues on a job. I said I need to tell the truth and get the issues out in front. He said you can tell the truth....Just not all of the story.

Youngster, you will learn this once you hit the real world.

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