Immigration law bad for Alabama
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Give Me a Break

Foley, AL

#21 Feb 2, 2012
"I am a Captain on a widebody aircraft costing close to a 100 million dollars and just came back from ASIA stopping in Japan, China and Singapore. I am also trying to learn Japanese. So yea I guess I am just a redneck who knows nothing about the world."

Jimmy Carter was a genius and one of the worst Presidents we ever had. The fact that you can drive a car with wings doesn't impress me.

"I do believe in God but support separation of Church and State"

I equate this with someone who is proud of believing in tea leaves and thinks that is the basis of all knowledge and also believes in separation of church and State.

"I believe gun control is sight picture and trigger control so you got me there."

Good for you--now show me that you can't buy a gun since Obama has been in office and then blame him for abuse of the 2nd Amendment like the rest of the fly-boy Rednecks.
HIFLYR

Memphis, TN

#22 Feb 2, 2012
I should of know I was debating the village idiot who since he has nothing factual or even debatable to say resorts to childish rubbish.
Give Me a Break

Foley, AL

#23 Feb 2, 2012
HIFLYR wrote:
I should of know I was debating the village idiot who since he has nothing factual or even debatable to say resorts to childish rubbish.
Then I guess you are not as smart as you thought your were.
FastFred

Foley, AL

#24 Feb 3, 2012
methodical wrote:
So let me just ask: Does anyone here believe "self-deportation" is something that could work?
Absolutely !
FastFred

Foley, AL

#25 Feb 3, 2012
Give Me a Break wrote:
"I do feel that they should pay into the system by paying taxes and following our laws. Holding a valid drivers license, not stealing SS numbers, etc."
If we had some way to accommodate the illegal aliens so that they had an avenue to citizenship and at the same time could identify themselves without the fear of being deported or jailed, then we could require them to have a valid driver's license, have a legal work permit, etc. The way it is now, these illegals have to remain under cover so they have no way to do these things without being penalized. Yes, control the borders and stop illegals from coming here but we have to find a way to deal with those who are already here so that they pay their taxes, etc. while they are also doing lots of jobs that help our economy.
The only thing that is going to cause prices to go up is that our moron President and his severe E.P.A. regulations is stopping oil pipe lines that will benefit all Americans by creating jobs and lowering gas prices. We are even allowing to many legal aliens in to the country each year and they do not assimilate in to society, and now we have our first failed state because of it,"California". It's time to stop all immigration for a while.
FastFred

Foley, AL

#26 Feb 3, 2012
Give Me a Break wrote:
"I am a Captain on a widebody aircraft costing close to a 100 million dollars and just came back from ASIA stopping in Japan, China and Singapore. I am also trying to learn Japanese. So yea I guess I am just a redneck who knows nothing about the world."
Jimmy Carter was a genius and one of the worst Presidents we ever had. The fact that you can drive a car with wings doesn't impress me.
"I do believe in God but support separation of Church and State"
I equate this with someone who is proud of believing in tea leaves and thinks that is the basis of all knowledge and also believes in separation of church and State.
"I believe gun control is sight picture and trigger control so you got me there."
Good for you--now show me that you can't buy a gun since Obama has been in office and then blame him for abuse of the 2nd Amendment like the rest of the fly-boy Rednecks.
Not yet on the gun control,but watch if he manages to get a second term, and remember....Senator Obama wanted to increase the price on ammunition 400 per cent.
Give Me a Break

Foley, AL

#27 Feb 3, 2012
"Not yet on the gun control,but watch if he manages to get a second term, and remember....Senator Obama wanted to increase the price on ammunition 400 per cent."

False speculation. People who voted against Obama in the last Presidential Election were certain that he would ban guns the 1st day he was in office and still can't stop scaring people that he will one day do it. I'm sure State governments have raised the tax on cigarettes and whiskey well over 400% in past years and people who smoke and drink liquor have to live with that and at the same time can't smoke almost anywhere or risk losing their driving license if they drive after just sniffing the cork on a bottle of wine while others are free to run over people on the highway while they are texting and BS'ing on their cell phone about nothing.

And, I have no argument against temporarily stopping immigration. I just think there has to be a better way of dealing with those illegal immigrants who are already here than just chartering thousands of buses to drive them back home all over South and Central America and elsewhere which is an impossible task in itself.

And, Obama has not stopped the oil pipe line. He has delayed it's approval pending finalization of environmental impact studies--this is the same thing that was done before the Alaskan Pipe Line was approved. I'm sure that if you or any other posters had a farm or a house next to the proposed pipe line that you would want to be assured that the path of this line would not adversely impact your rights as a property owner or decrease the value of your investment. This pipe line runs through our entire Country--that's a big deal and it should be considered carefully.

“Changes in latitude/attitud e”

Since: Sep 10

Gulf Shores, AL

#28 Feb 3, 2012
FF, thanks for your reply. But, I am thinking, these folks are already here illegally, working illegally, and possibly driving without a license. The whole self deportation assumes that they will not be able to work without the correct papers, and therefore, will have to go home.
What's to stop them from (illegally) stealing and using other people's social security numbers, sharing paperwork, etc?
I guess my thinking is that someone who wants something bad enough will do anything to get it, so, are we promoting more illegality this way?

BTW, I just want to be enlightened with people's thoughts and ideas. If you guys start bashing me that takes the fun out of it. I don't want to fight with anyone.
FastFred wrote:
<quoted text>Absolutely !

“Changes in latitude/attitud e”

Since: Sep 10

Gulf Shores, AL

#29 Feb 3, 2012
So since I have everyone's attention, would anyone care to share who they would support for president?
FastFred

Foley, AL

#30 Feb 8, 2012
methodical wrote:
So since I have everyone's attention, would anyone care to share who they would support for president?
I was for "Rick Perry",now it will be "ROMMNEY".
FastFred

Foley, AL

#31 Feb 8, 2012
methodical wrote:
FF, thanks for your reply. But, I am thinking, these folks are already here illegally, working illegally, and possibly driving without a license. The whole self deportation assumes that they will not be able to work without the correct papers, and therefore, will have to go home.
What's to stop them from (illegally) stealing and using other people's social security numbers, sharing paperwork, etc?
I guess my thinking is that someone who wants something bad enough will do anything to get it, so, are we promoting more illegality this way?
BTW, I just want to be enlightened with people's thoughts and ideas. If you guys start bashing me that takes the fun out of it. I don't want to fight with anyone.
<quoted text>
https://www.numbersusa.com/con tent/news/october-6-2011/alaba ma-official-says-tough-immigra tion-law-resulting-self-deport ation.html
FastFred

Foley, AL

#32 Feb 8, 2012
methodical wrote:
FF, thanks for your reply. But, I am thinking, these folks are already here illegally, working illegally, and possibly driving without a license. The whole self deportation assumes that they will not be able to work without the correct papers, and therefore, will have to go home.
What's to stop them from (illegally) stealing and using other people's social security numbers, sharing paperwork, etc?
I guess my thinking is that someone who wants something bad enough will do anything to get it, so, are we promoting more illegality this way?
BTW, I just want to be enlightened with people's thoughts and ideas. If you guys start bashing me that takes the fun out of it. I don't want to fight with anyone.
<quoted text>
http://www.numbersusa.com/cont ent/news/october-6-2011/alabam a-official-says-tough-immigrat ion-law-resulting-self-deporta tion.html
FastFred

Foley, AL

#33 Feb 8, 2012
methodical wrote:
FF, thanks for your reply. But, I am thinking, these folks are already here illegally, working illegally, and possibly driving without a license. The whole self deportation assumes that they will not be able to work without the correct papers, and therefore, will have to go home.
What's to stop them from (illegally) stealing and using other people's social security numbers, sharing paperwork, etc?
I guess my thinking is that someone who wants something bad enough will do anything to get it, so, are we promoting more illegality this way?
BTW, I just want to be enlightened with people's thoughts and ideas. If you guys start bashing me that takes the fun out of it. I don't want to fight with anyone.
<quoted text>
I could not get the "Link" to copy,this is the article I was tring to get to you,Alabama Official Says Tough Immigration Law Resulting in 'Self-Deportation'
Thursday, October 6, 2011, 5:40 PM EST - posted on NumbersUSA

Employers in Alabama’s Marshall County are hiring new workers following the stepped-up federal and state enforcement of immigration laws.

“It is amazing to see the effects” as undocumented workers leave town, said Chuck Ellis, a member of Albertville’s city council.

Immigration is a hot-button issue that is testing the skills of candidates as diverse as President Barack Obama and Texas Gov. Rick Perry. They’re being further tested by a wave of new state laws, and by some limited federal enforcement, which are giving voters real-world tests of rival policies.

On Monday, for example, the Wayne Farms chicken-processing plant in Marshall County held a jobs fair to fill slots that opened when many illegal workers left the county. The line “was probably equivalent to a couple of blocks … It was a largely Anglo and black group,” but also included Hispanics, said Ellis.

“It is tough work, very tough … my momma did it for a while, I’ve had friends who did it,” said Ellis, who also works as a local sheriff.

The new reform measures are also reducing classroom crowding in the 4,000-student school district, said Ellis. Roughly 150 kids of migrant workers have departed the district, and perhaps 500 more will leave as enforcement continues, he said.“It is tough on those kids,” but their departure will free up teachers to work with other Hispanic kids that need to learn English, he said.

“A large proportion of the illegal Hispanic community has moved … self-deportation is a real thing,” said Ellis. Because of the exodus, the county’s unemployment rate has dropped to from about 9.5 percent to roughly 9.3 percent over the last several weeks, he said.

The reforms in Alabama, and similar changes in Arizona and other states and cities that have begun enforcing immigration laws, have spurred furious opposition from the Hispanic ethnic lobby, and has put the administration in a political bind, said Mark Krikorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which opposes illegal immigration and seeks to shrink legal immigration.

“Changes in latitude/attitud e”

Since: Sep 10

Gulf Shores, AL

#34 Feb 8, 2012
Thanks for the info via the article you posted. As for your presidential candidate choice.....remember crate gate. Crisis Management Fail.
But, you have probably chosen a winner.
I really wish Ron Paul would go all the way, I support him but it is disappointing that he does well in polls and that's about it.
FastFred wrote:
<quoted text>I was for "Rick Perry",now it will be "ROMMNEY".
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#35 Feb 10, 2012
FastFred wrote:
<quoted text>I could not get the "Link" to copy,this is the article I was tring to get to you,Alabama Official Says Tough Immigration Law Resulting in 'Self-Deportation'
Thursday, October 6, 2011, 5:40 PM EST - posted on NumbersUSA
Employers in Alabama’s Marshall County are hiring new workers following the stepped-up federal and state enforcement of immigration laws.
“It is amazing to see the effects” as undocumented workers leave town, said Chuck Ellis, a member of Albertville’s city council.
Immigration is a hot-button issue that is testing the skills of candidates as diverse as President Barack Obama and Texas Gov. Rick Perry. They’re being further tested by a wave of new state laws, and by some limited federal enforcement, which are giving voters real-world tests of rival policies.
On Monday, for example, the Wayne Farms chicken-processing plant in Marshall County held a jobs fair to fill slots that opened when many illegal workers left the county. The line “was probably equivalent to a couple of blocks … It was a largely Anglo and black group,” but also included Hispanics, said Ellis.
.
But did he tell you the rest of the story about how many people wanted "jobs" but not entry level jobs back in receiving and processing where the dirty work goes on. You learn poultry processing from the ground up and so many people can't handle that. Not everyone can walk around with a clipboard. Many of the "anxious applicants" don't make it through the first day, or just show up to get their contact sheet filled out for the unemployment people to think they are really out looking for work.
Give Me a Break

Foley, AL

#36 Feb 11, 2012
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> But did he tell you the rest of the story about how many people wanted "jobs" but not entry level jobs back in receiving and processing where the dirty work goes on. You learn poultry processing from the ground up and so many people can't handle that. Not everyone can walk around with a clipboard. Many of the "anxious applicants" don't make it through the first day, or just show up to get their contact sheet filled out for the unemployment people to think they are really out looking for work.
I think it is quite clear to everyone except FastFred that Alabama's immigration law is costing Alabama billions of dollars and for no good reason. Both Auburn and the University of Alabama have done studies that prove this point. Now, the politicians who pushed this bill through the legislature are trying to save face by just admitting that the bill needs some fine tuning. The fine tuning that it needs is to be completely thrown out the window.
ThomasA

Rainbow City, AL

#37 Feb 11, 2012
FastFred also needs to understand that businesses like the poultry industry needs people willing to WORK for that paycheck in a high volume production facility and not the kind that show up but only want to occupy space,breathe air,and draw a paycheck. We have too many American workers that have no work ethic that have laid off and their employers didn't even miss them because they weren't productive anyway. The poor state of the economy should be a wakeup call for the next generation of workers.

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