Obama, One more way to degrade our Military

[FastFred]

American Legion Outraged at Obama Plan to Make Wounded Vets Use Private Insurance
I thought President Barack Obama wanted universal health care for everyone! Well, I guess there are exceptions. Some people have to pay for all of it, and I guess Obama thinks the wounded Vet should be the one. But haven’t they already paid enough?

[Imangttia]

FastFred wrote:

American Legion Outraged at Obama Plan to Make Wounded Vets Use Private Insurance
I thought President Barack Obama wanted universal health care for everyone! Well, I guess there are exceptions. Some people have to pay for all of it, and I guess Obama thinks the wounded Vet should be the one. But haven’t they already paid enough?

I don't know all of the details of which you speak but I have felt for a long time that the VA Hospitals should be closed and that veterans should be treated in the same medical facilities as everyone else. Yes, they should have special compensation for health care due to their service to our Country but, they deserve better than the VA Hospitals are providing.

[FastFred]

Here's one of the stories.

The leader of the nation’s largest veterans organization says he is “deeply disappointed and concerned” after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.

“It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan,” said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion.“He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it.”

The Commander, clearly angered as he emerged from the session said,“This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate ‘ to care for him who shall have borne the battle’ given that the United States government sent members of the armed forces into harm’s way, and not private insurance companies. I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America’s veterans!”

Commander Rehbein was among a group of senior officials from veterans service organizations joining the President, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki and Steven Kosiak, the overseer of defense spending at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). The group’s early afternoon conversation at The White House was precipitated by a letter of protest presented to the President earlier this month. The letter, co-signed by Commander Rehbein and the heads of ten colleague organizations, read, in part,” There is simply no logical explanation for billing a veteran’s personal insurance for care that the VA has a responsibility to provide. While we understand the fiscal difficulties this country faces right now, placing the burden of those fiscal problems on the men and women who have already sacrificed a great deal for this country is unconscionable.”

What's got me puzzled is Obama's motivation. Demoralize the troops? Make military recruiting more difficult or impossible? Kill the health insurance industry? Try to balance the impossibly bloated federal budget on the backs of insurance companies?

Maybe it's all of the above.

[Amazed at you]

Imangttia wrote:

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I don't know all of the details of which you speak but I have felt for a long time that the VA Hospitals should be closed and that veterans should be treated in the same medical facilities as everyone else. Yes, they should have special compensation for health care due to their service to our Country but, they deserve better than the VA Hospitals are providing.

The VA model is the very same one we all will have with an universal health care system. I have worked in two VA hospitals during my surgery training. It is not the quality of physicians and staff in the VA but the "red tape" that is involved that created the problems I witnessed. It made taking care of patients rather difficult for the docs, nurses, and therapists. Most medical decision was weighed by some faceless non-medical bureacrat in some far away government office. I really felt sorry for these men and women. I have no problem with taking care of veterans once they return home. I have many patients that have served and have injuries resulting from their service. My services are paid through their insurance (Tricare and private). My problem with all of this is that it appears that President Obama is trying to take away the goverment's responsibility to these fine men and women who have devoted their lives to their country through their service. I feel this does not reflect our PATRIOTIC DUTY to support our troops. I can not understand why he would be pushing this concept. I will admit we have a problem with our current healthcare, but this thought process seems to contradict the whole "Universal Coverage" concept he's been pushing. Am I missing something?

[FastFred]

Amazed at you wrote:

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The VA model is the very same one we all will have with an universal health care system. I have worked in two VA hospitals during my surgery training. It is not the quality of physicians and staff in the VA but the "red tape" that is involved that created the problems I witnessed. It made taking care of patients rather difficult for the docs, nurses, and therapists. Most medical decision was weighed by some faceless non-medical bureaucrat in some far away government office. I really felt sorry for these men and women. I have no problem with taking care of veterans once they return home. I have many patients that have served and have injuries resulting from their service. My services are paid through their insurance (Tricare and private). My problem with all of this is that it appears that President Obama is trying to take away the government's responsibility to these fine men and women who have devoted their lives to their country through their service. I feel this does not reflect our PATRIOTIC DUTY to support our troops. I can not understand why he would be pushing this concept. I will admit we have a problem with our current healthcare, but this thought process seems to contradict the whole "Universal Coverage" concept he's been pushing. Am I missing something?

You are not missing anything as I see it,it appears he is trying to take away the Governments responsibility.I can't even imagine the President of the U.S.slapping the "VETS."in the face this hard.

[Amazed at you]

I read this morning that the President dropped this plan. I guess he did listen to the masses.

[FastFred]

Amazed at you wrote:

I read this morning that the President dropped this plan. I guess he did listen to the masses.

Well at least today there is some good news !

[Sylvia]

The President never had this plan in the first place! Right now, Medicare is having to pay all medical expenses for veterans....for the rest of their lives. I believe that their treatment should be paid for by the Department of Defense!

[unicorn]

FastFred wrote:

American Legion Outraged at Obama Plan to Make Wounded Vets Use Private Insurance
I thought President Barack Obama wanted universal health care for everyone! Well, I guess there are exceptions. Some people have to pay for all of it, and I guess Obama thinks the wounded Vet should be the one. But haven’t they already paid enough?

obama is only interested in helping HIS brothers and sisters and of course we should pay for it,,he doesnt respect our country let alone our military. join the protestors let your voice be heard.he should be impeached

[Sambo]

The communist black is not trying to fix anything. He is only
out to destroy white America as revenge for slavery and wars on Islam.
He hates all that are not black . He hates you. The sooner we accept
that the better off we will be.

[Give me a break]

Sambo wrote:

The communist black is not trying to fix anything. He is only
out to destroy white America as revenge for slavery and wars on Islam.
He hates all that are not black . He hates you. The sooner we accept
that the better off we will be.

You jerks seem to forget that he is 1/2 White and was raised by the White side of his family. I guess that is why you think he hates Whites.

[guitar picker]

Sambo wrote:

The communist black is not trying to fix anything. He is only
out to destroy white America as revenge for slavery and wars on Islam.
He hates all that are not black . He hates you. The sooner we accept
that the better off we will be.

Just by looking at your screen name "Sambo", which was a racial slur severaly years ago, combined with your comments, the feeling must be mutual, at least, if not slanted. I don't agree with everything the man does, but racial bigotry seems to be alive in "Sambo" in South Alabama. If that's not what it is, I am sorry - I just call 'em like they appear.

[Ho Dee Doo]

Give me a break wrote:

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You jerks seem to forget that he is 1/2 White and was raised by the White side of his family. I guess that is why you think he hates Whites.

He may be 1/2 white but he sure like to hide that half. All he wants to do is play off his black half, That's where the race card is at.

[Ho Dee Doo]

guitar picker wrote:

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Just by looking at your screen name "Sambo", which was a racial slur severaly years ago, combined with your comments, the feeling must be mutual, at least, if not slanted. I don't agree with everything the man does, but racial bigotry seems to be alive in "Sambo" in South Alabama. If that's not what it is, I am sorry - I just call 'em like they appear.

Come on now, Put that race card back in your pocket..

[Give me a break]

Ho Dee Doo wrote:

<quoted text> He may be 1/2 white but he sure like to hide that half. All he wants to do is play off his black half, That's where the race card is at.

And all you like to do is play off of your red-neck. See ya at NASCAR, Bubba.

[Ho Dee Doo]

Give me a break wrote:

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And all you like to do is play off of your red-neck. See ya at NASCAR, Bubba.

There are only two plays in the leftist playbook. The race card is one of them, and the other is to launch personal attacks.......

[guitar picker]

Ho Dee Doo wrote:

<quoted text>Come on now, Put that race card back in your pocket..

I didn't play the race card - check with "Sambo" on that one.

[FastFred]

Sambo wrote:

The communist black is not trying to fix anything. He is only
out to destroy white America as revenge for slavery and wars on Islam.
He hates all that are not black . He hates you. The sooner we accept
that the better off we will be.

With all that I have read on this subject and heard in Documentaries I would have to agree with your statement.

[FastFred]

Guitar Picker...Off the subject but,Skynyrd will be in Pensacola next month,do you go to any of the concerts?