Fighting sales from puppy mills

Fighting sales from puppy mills

There are 239 comments on the The Morning Call story from Jan 18, 2009, titled Fighting sales from puppy mills. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Carol Keith braved 18-degree temperatures Saturday afternoon to hold signs protesting a pet store where a group claims that dogs from puppy mills are sold.

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Since: Sep 08

Lisle IL

#229 Jan 27, 2009
As if anyone needed any more evidence:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/1/27/81933...
u r naive

Allentown, PA

#230 Jan 27, 2009
Azdak wrote:
As if anyone needed any more evidence:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/1/27/81933...
This is about a place in Washington, so what is your point??
me too

Allentown, PA

#231 Jan 27, 2009
u r naive wrote:
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This is about a place in Washington, so what is your point??
The point is, puppy mills know no boundaries. This article will tell you the horrific conditions the mothers of pet store puppies live in, regardless of where those puppy mills are located. Are you really so naive that you think it doesn't happen here? This alone ought to get decent people to stop purchasing puppies and if you can't see anything wrong there then you need some serious help!

Since: Sep 08

Lisle IL

#232 Jan 27, 2009
u r naive wrote:
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This is about a place in Washington, so what is your point??
This forum has a national reach and the conditions that existed in the story I cited are similar to those anywhere in the country where this takes place. I know this expands the discussion a little beyond the geography of the local issues that started this forum, but, again, it's not like the conditions described are unique.

To me this was key: "The puppy millers had a legal business that they used as a front. They pretended that their dogs came from an legal licensed kennel that they managed."

Regardless of whether the dog is healthy or not, regardless of the way any individual purchase turns out, quite frankly, regardless of how "nice" the people at the pet store are, the fact is that if you purchase a dog from a pet store, you are supporting the puppy mill system. That's something that everyone needs to understand. What a individual chooses to do with that knowledge is up to them.
Mr J

Allentown, PA

#233 Jan 27, 2009
me too wrote:
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The point is, puppy mills know no boundaries. This article will tell you the horrific conditions the mothers of pet store puppies live in, regardless of where those puppy mills are located. Are you really so naive that you think it doesn't happen here? This alone ought to get decent people to stop purchasing puppies and if you can't see anything wrong there then you need some serious help!
You need the help. The article is not about a puppy mill from around here. Your the same idiot that says there are puppy mills everywhere in PA yet they are hidden and nobody knows about them. Get a life and stop worrying about something that doesn't exist.
me too

Allentown, PA

#234 Jan 28, 2009
Mr J wrote:
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You need the help. The article is not about a puppy mill from around here. Your the same idiot that says there are puppy mills everywhere in PA yet they are hidden and nobody knows about them. Get a life and stop worrying about something that doesn't exist.
Are you crazy? They don't exist? You ARE crazy! Oh my God, you are deranged and not worth anymore of my time! I soooo cannot stand ignorant people!

“Snow days!”

Since: Nov 08

A winter wonderland

#235 Jan 28, 2009
me too wrote:
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Are you crazy? They don't exist? You ARE crazy! Oh my God, you are deranged and not worth anymore of my time! I soooo cannot stand ignorant people!
Those of us who work in rescue & fight the puppy mills try to educate people to the horrors of commercial breeding. But some people prefer living their lives with blinders on. You can't educate someone who doesn't want to learn.
me too

Allentown, PA

#236 Jan 28, 2009
Andie J wrote:
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Those of us who work in rescue & fight the puppy mills try to educate people to the horrors of commercial breeding. But some people prefer living their lives with blinders on. You can't educate someone who doesn't want to learn.
Yes, makes you wonder what else they close their eyes to. So very sad.
Mr J

Allentown, PA

#237 Jan 28, 2009
me too wrote:
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Are you crazy? They don't exist? You ARE crazy! Oh my God, you are deranged and not worth anymore of my time! I soooo cannot stand ignorant people!
you ARE crazy. I see your posts in these forums. Anyone against your opinion is always crazy, or you say that person is the owner of a puppy mill or pet store. YOU are the same moron who said there are puppy mills everywhere yet they are not known to the public and hard to find. Get a grip of get lost.
Mr J

Allentown, PA

#238 Jan 28, 2009
Andie J wrote:
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Those of us who work in rescue & fight the puppy mills try to educate people to the horrors of commercial breeding. But some people prefer living their lives with blinders on. You can't educate someone who doesn't want to learn.
No it's psychos like "ME TOO" that contradict themselves in different forums.
Mr J

Allentown, PA

#239 Jan 28, 2009
me too wrote:
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Yes, makes you wonder what else they close their eyes to. So very sad.
u are pathetic.
We are winning

Schnecksville, PA

#240 Feb 1, 2009
Anyone who answers this total mental incompetent, this Joisy Girl is wasting their time. She is definitely a low life and I can just guess what she does for a living.
A different opinion

Aurora, IL

#241 Feb 1, 2009
If only the puppy freaked out people could expend that energy and money on kids, DCFS and abusive parents I would be happy.
jane

Allentown, PA

#242 Feb 2, 2009
We are winning wrote:
Anyone who answers this total mental incompetent, this Joisy Girl is wasting their time. She is definitely a low life and I can just guess what she does for a living.
I can only imagine what YOU do, lol
mcp in NJ

Sparta, NJ

#243 Mar 1, 2009
LVPMWatch wrote:
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If you think standing on a dusty dirt road in Lititz, Lancaster and places like that would get our point across, then you obviously do not understand the concept behind our protests. We are there to educate people about the pet store-puppy mill connection. We DO have proof that the Wentz and other pet stores sell dogs from "Questionable breeders" to put it mildly. If you don't want to see it, that's fine, but it is PUBLIC RECORD and we are willing to share with people like you that do not want to believe this type of cruelty occurs.
Buying dogs from places like Wentz and some internet sites, just supports this industry of cruelty. Have you not read about the kennels like Almost Heaven and others that have been raided and horrific acts of cruelty noted? Many mills HAVE been shut down, but it takes lots of time and effort from people that dedicate themselves to helping the dogs that have no voice in this matter.
Maybe if some of you did some research instead of claiming we have no proof, then you could open your minds and understand that all of us have jobs and families and do not do this because it is "fun", we do it to help educate people like you.
www.lvpmwatch.org
It is all well and good that "rescue groups" such as yourselves are watching out for animals in need. What I want to know is, why do rescue organizations charge so much to adopt a rescued animal. I understand that the cost of caring for these animals is high and most of the monies come from donations but, there are people like us - "seniors" - who would love to adopt an adult rescued animal, but we just cannot afford to. And believe it or not, it is sometimes cheaper to buy a puppy from a pet shop.
And the adoption standards set up by the SPCA and other rescue organizations are set so high, that it actually discourages people to "adopt" from them.
I know all of this because, I am in the process of helping a friend look for an adult dog for her to adopt. I have searched the "web" for all rescue organizations in the surrounding area and have found the "donation" price to be too much for her to afford.
Are there any places out there that would just like to see an animal go to a "good home" for an affordable "donation"? Or maybe, even for free - that's how I adopted my Schipperkee - he just needed a good home and we are giving it to him.
Thank you for reading this!!!

“Snow days!”

Since: Nov 08

A winter wonderland

#244 Mar 2, 2009
It does cost a lot, sometimes a whole lot, to prepare a dog for adoption. Some need to be spayed or neutered, some need dental work, others have injuries from life on the road. It also costs a good deal for a foster family to care for the dog & prepare him socially. Thses groups would not exist if they didn't charge. There are groups, however, that have programs for seniors to adopt dogs. They sometimes even take care of the cost of food. Ask at your local shelter if they know of any program like that.
The standards are set where they are because many people just don't know how to treat a dog. A dog should not be adopted to be a guard dog & should not have to live outside. Some dogs must have a fenced yard, others need regular grooming. A dog is not just a dog- it's a complex creature with breed-specific needs. The interview also serves to determine if the dog is going to be alone all day, or whether you can afford the dog's care in the first place.
Mary

Pittsburgh, PA

#245 Apr 21, 2009
LVPMWatch wrote:
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Well, we were there because of the breeders from which Wentz buys his puppies. The issue is not always the health of the puppies, sometimes you can get one that has no health issues, but it is the parents that are suffering at the kennel. Please look up his breeders' inspection history, as you will find numerous warning and citations for things like "Mold, debris and feces in the food", "No shelter for outside dogs" and other horrible conditions. The Governor signed a bill that was watered down and will help a little, but does not stop the inhumane conditions in these mills. If you'd like to see proof about Wentz's kennels, please visit our website and use the "Contact Us" button.
lvpmwatch dot org
Don't you have better things to do then worry about puppy mills. What about the kids that are abused and the girls that are being sold over seas? Don't you think there are more important issues right now?

“Snow days!”

Since: Nov 08

A winter wonderland

#246 Apr 22, 2009
Mary wrote:
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Don't you have better things to do then worry about puppy mills. What about the kids that are abused and the girls that are being sold over seas? Don't you think there are more important issues right now?
Mary- if you had ever seen the conditions of puppy mills you would not have made that insensitive remark. Are you on this thread just to argue? Why ARE you here?
me too

Allentown, PA

#247 Apr 22, 2009
Mary wrote:
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Don't you have better things to do then worry about puppy mills. What about the kids that are abused and the girls that are being sold over seas? Don't you think there are more important issues right now?
What does one have to do with the other? What about abused kids? What about kids being sold overseas? What do you want me to do about it?

Do you think that people can only support one cause at a time? Maybe you are that short sighted or ignorant, but most people are not. Most people are quite adept at fighting for several causes at one time.

Or.....are you a puppy mill owner?

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