Who do you support for Governor in Pennsylvania in 2010?

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TaxNoMore

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#38422
Oct 4, 2012
 
Seriously, if Obama is so bad, why do you have to lie about him?

Why can't you just point to things he's actually responsible for instead of blaming him for things other people did?

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· President Obama took office in the first quarter of 2009, when median household income was $54,797.63. As of the last quarter of 2011, median household income was $52,377.21.

This was the interval Mr. Zandi suggested using to check Mr. Romney’s statement, and it shows an income drop of $2,420.42. That’s not $3,000, of course, but it’s still pretty bad.

One could also reasonably argue that it might be more appropriate to use the quarter before Mr. Obama took office as the baseline, rather than the quarter in which he was sworn in. In the fourth quarter of 2008, median household income was about $55,380.17.

Starting from that quarter gives us a decline of $3,002.96, almost exactly the number Mr. Romney cited.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/23/ ...
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The warrior tea bag is sure entertaining and big time ignorant surprising no one even his racist tea bag brethren, ha ha. The tea bag better dream flippers bad luck leaves in Ohio but it wont. In a couple days every one except the tea bags will see no real bump for flipper. President Obama brings a solid history of winning elections and flipper has a solid history of losing elections which a ignorant racist tea bag needs to deny. There fixed Limbaugh news orders then to do always
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#38424
Oct 5, 2012
 
Joe Erie wrote:
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Is this poster always like this?
Lies, rambling, spinning, denial, never a debate, just copy-paste?
I belong to a lot of great boards but never seen a person/TROLL so out of it!
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He's the king of fraud.
He's a low-life bottom feeding crawdad that lives on his computer.
Remember the low life who was the nemesis of the kids on the South Park episode about World of Warcraft...he's worse than that guy.
Extremely anti-social, harbors extreme hostility towards people he will never know or meet
He claims he's independently wealthy but spends every waking moment posting mis-information, glenn beck style.
He omits pertintent information on several posts to fit his racist biases.
I think he's being paid because who in their right mind would spend
Every waking moment of their life on this board trying to provoke liberals without being paid for it?
I have to go to work now but I will continue telling you more about this misfit human later tonight..
Dan the Man

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#38425
Oct 5, 2012
 
Joe Erie wrote:
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Is this poster always like this?
Lies, rambling, spinning, denial, never a debate, just copy-paste?
I belong to a lot of great boards but never seen a person/TROLL so out of it!
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LOL! I refuted every lie you've told with the facts. And I didn't copy and paste anything - I used my own words.

You are making an argument about an imaginary debater, not me.

But maybe that's the best you can do - mindlessly parrot rightwing talking points then begin personal attacks and insults when they're debunked. Probably because you can't support your bullshit with anything but more bullshit.

I see what you are now. I'm done wasting my time. Goodbye.
ussurf

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#38426
Oct 5, 2012
 
PLEASE.... TaxMELess
ussurf

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#38427
Oct 5, 2012
 
TaxNoMore wrote:
And as the Examiner noted, the Obama campaign in 2008 was hit with a similar scandal in which the campaign let donors use
“largely untraceable prepaid credit cards that could potentially be used to evade limits on how much an individual is legally allowed to give or to mask a contributor's identity."
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/ ...
2008? This is 2012,2012,2012,2012. Can we stick to 2012 please! The month is October! We have two candidates, Romney and Obama. The Governor is hard at work as usual, but by the time this thread goes down he will be up for reelection.
In answer the next question, I will take a cheeseburger,with lettuce, mayonnaise,tomato,pickle a dash of salt,a dash of pepper and a side dish of Mickey's french fries and a regular soft drink. Hey thanks.say, have you noticed the price of gold lately? Its goin up!
Check it out. not a bad investment if you can hangin for the long haul.Gotta go I forgot desert.
Nope

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#38428
Oct 5, 2012
 
bobby64 wrote:
The warrior tea bag is sure entertaining and big time ignorant surprising no one even his racist tea bag brethren, ha ha. The tea bag better dream flippers bad luck leaves in Ohio but it wont. In a couple days every one except the tea bags will see no real bump for flipper. President Obama brings a solid history of winning elections and flipper has a solid history of losing elections which a ignorant racist tea bag needs to deny. There fixed Limbaugh news orders then to do always
Just cover your ears and keep repeating "not there!, not there! not there!"

It still won't change the FACT that Obama is a FAILURE and will LOSE on 11/6.

Bobby, the warrior racist bottom feeder...

You'll have to get a job, son!
bobby64

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Nope, you moronic tea bag should at least try to back up your smack talk as your opinion or vote is real failure. Is president Obama winning big in Ohio? Hell yes but out of desperation all you got is nothing that concerns no one. Please don't stop. How is that flipper big bump going on? If you find your self a ignorant tea bag blame NOPE
Dave Rogers of Clearfield

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Now I know my liberal friends on here will not admit this or believe it but this is exactly whats going on. November 4th will prove it.

Swing State Polls Are Rigged

After Wednesday night’s smashing debate victory for Romney, we may expect the national and swing state polls to change in the Republican’s direction. But not by as much as they should. These polls are biased in favor of Obama and here’s the data to prove it:

From noted Republican pollster John McLaughlin comes a clear and convincing exposé of the bias of media polls in the swing states of Florida, Ohio, and Virginia.

McLaughlin reviewed exit polls in each state for the past four elections. From this data about who actually voted, he found that the party divisions manifest on election day have little to do with the samples upon which the media is basing its polling. And, coincidentally, it is always the Republican vote that tends to be undercounted.

In Florida, for example, McLaughlin finds that the average of the last four elections produced a turnout of 37% Democrats and 38% Republicans. But here is the partisan distribution of the most recent Florida media polls:

9-26: CBS/NY Times = 36% Dem / 27% Rep

9-23: Wash Post = 35% Dem / 29% Rep

So the media polls reflect a 9 point and six point Democratic edge even though the actual experience of the past four elections has been a 1 point Republican advantage.

Things are no better in Ohio. Here, McLaughlin finds a 2 point Democratic edge in the past four elections (38% Dem, 36% Rep). But the media polls show vastly more Democrats and fewer Republicans in their samples:

9-26: CBS/NY Times = 35% Dem / 26% Rep

9-23: Wash Post = 35% Dem / 27% Rep

9-11: NBC/Wall St Journal = 38% Dem / 28% Rep

Once again, the actual exit poll-measured vote in Ohio shows a 2 point Democratic edge, but the polls reflect Democratic advantages of 9 points, 8 points, and 10 points respectively.

In Virginia, it’s the same story. The last four elections have a combined 1 point Republican edge, 37-36. But the media polls show a big pro-Democratic bias:

10/2: Roanoke College = Democrat 36%/ Republican 27%

9/17: CBS/NYTimes = Democrat 35%/ Republican 26%

9/16: Washington Post = Democrat 35%/ Republican 24%

9/11: NBC/Wall St Journal = Democrat 31%/ Republican 26%

So instead of showing a 1 point Republican edge, these media poll samples show Democratic advantages of 9,9,11, and 5.

The correct conclusion to draw from all these polls is that Romney is comfortably ahead in Virginia and Florida while he holds a slight lead in Ohio. And, remember these polls are all pre-debate!

Also, bear in mind that the undecided vote in all of these polls usually goes against the incumbent.

“ONE LOVE...ONE HORSE”

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#38431
Oct 5, 2012
 
The unemployment rate decreased to 7.8 percent in September, and total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 114,000, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment increased in health care and in transportation and warehousing but changed little in most other major industries.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/september-jobs...
bobby64

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#38432
Oct 5, 2012
 
Is that why Obama became president Obama tea bag?
Nope

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#38433
Oct 5, 2012
 
bobby64 wrote:
Is that why Obama became president Obama tea bag?
Looks like President Obama only has until 1/20/13.

Boo Hoo Racist Warrior for the Entitlement Slug Class.
Dan the Man

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#38434
Oct 5, 2012
 
Dave Rogers of Clearfield wrote:
Now I know my liberal friends on here will not admit this or believe it but this is exactly whats going on. November 4th will prove it.
Swing State Polls Are Rigged
After Wednesday night’s smashing debate victory for Romney, we may expect the national and swing state polls to change in the Republican’s direction. But not by as much as they should. These polls are biased in favor of Obama and here’s the data to prove it:
From noted Republican pollster John McLaughlin comes a clear and convincing exposé of the bias of media polls in the swing states of Florida, Ohio, and Virginia.
McLaughlin reviewed exit polls in each state for the past four elections. From this data about who actually voted, he found that the party divisions manifest on election day have little to do with the samples upon which the media is basing its polling. And, coincidentally, it is always the Republican vote that tends to be undercounted.
In Florida, for example, McLaughlin finds that the average of the last four elections produced a turnout of 37% Democrats and 38% Republicans. But here is the partisan distribution of the most recent Florida media polls:
9-26: CBS/NY Times = 36% Dem / 27% Rep
9-23: Wash Post = 35% Dem / 29% Rep
So the media polls reflect a 9 point and six point Democratic edge even though the actual experience of the past four elections has been a 1 point Republican advantage.
Things are no better in Ohio. Here, McLaughlin finds a 2 point Democratic edge in the past four elections (38% Dem, 36% Rep). But the media polls show vastly more Democrats and fewer Republicans in their samples:
9-26: CBS/NY Times = 35% Dem / 26% Rep
9-23: Wash Post = 35% Dem / 27% Rep
9-11: NBC/Wall St Journal = 38% Dem / 28% Rep
Once again, the actual exit poll-measured vote in Ohio shows a 2 point Democratic edge, but the polls reflect Democratic advantages of 9 points, 8 points, and 10 points respectively.
In Virginia, it’s the same story. The last four elections have a combined 1 point Republican edge, 37-36. But the media polls show a big pro-Democratic bias:
10/2: Roanoke College = Democrat 36%/ Republican 27%
9/17: CBS/NYTimes = Democrat 35%/ Republican 26%
9/16: Washington Post = Democrat 35%/ Republican 24%
9/11: NBC/Wall St Journal = Democrat 31%/ Republican 26%
So instead of showing a 1 point Republican edge, these media poll samples show Democratic advantages of 9,9,11, and 5.
The correct conclusion to draw from all these polls is that Romney is comfortably ahead in Virginia and Florida while he holds a slight lead in Ohio. And, remember these polls are all pre-debate!
Also, bear in mind that the undecided vote in all of these polls usually goes against the incumbent.
This conspiracy theory has been thoroughly and repeatedly debunked. There is simply nothing to it. It is merely an effort by the right to set the groundwork for excuse-making after Romney is defeated - so they can say that there was election fraud since the election didn't turn out the way "correct" polling said it would.
Dan the Man

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#38435
Oct 5, 2012
 
Poll Averages Have No History of Consistent Partisan Bias

The criticisms are largely unsound, especially when couched in terms like “oversampling,” which implies that pollsters are deliberately rigging their samples.

But pollsters, at least if they are following the industry’s standard guidelines, do not choose how many Democrats, Republicans or independent voters to put into their samples — any more than they choose the number of voters for Mr. Obama or Mitt Romney. Instead, this is determined by the responses of the voters that they reach after calling random numbers from telephone directories or registered voter lists.

Pollsters will re-weight their numbers if the demographics of their sample diverge from Census Bureau data. For instance, it is typically more challenging to get younger voters on the phone, so most pollsters weight their samples by age to remedy this problem.

But party identification is not a hard-and-fast demographic characteristic like race, age or gender. Instead, it can change in reaction to news and political events from the party conventions to the Sept. 11 attacks. Since changes in public opinion are precisely what polls are trying to measure, it would defeat the purpose of conducting a survey if pollsters insisted that they knew what it was ahead of time.

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Catch that? Pollsters don't choose party affiliation when polling. They take a random sample and ask people being polled what their party affiliation is.

The simple explanation is that this year more people are self-identifying as Democratic. And that is completely consistent with the results of the polls.
Dan the Man

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A little more...

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So perhaps we should ask a more fundamental question: Do the polls have a history of being biased toward one party or the other?

The polls have no such history of partisan bias, at least not on a consistent basis. There have been years, like 1980 and 1994, when the polls did underestimate the standing of Republicans. But there have been others, like 2000 and 2006, when they underestimated the standing of Democrats.

We have an extensive database of thousands of polls of presidential and United States Senate elections.
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On the whole, it is reasonably impressive how unbiased the polls have been. In both presidential and Senate races, the bias has been less than a full percentage point over the long run, and it has run in opposite directions.
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Nor is there any suggestion that polls have become more biased toward Democratic candidates over time. Out of the past seven election cycles, the polls had a very slight Republican bias in 2010, and a more noticeable Republican bias in 1998, 2000 and 2006.

They had a Democratic bias only in 2004, and it was very modest.

Still, 2004 went to show that accusations of skewed polling are often rooted in wishful thinking.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012...
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President Barack Obama's debate performance on Wednesday was so lackluster and listless that it overshadowed all his bold and audacious lies. These lies have since been fact-checked and recognized, even by the liberals in mainstream media organizations. Here are Obama's top-five lies from Tuesday's debate with Mitt Romney.

Lie #1:Obama said his plan would reduce the deficit by $4 trillion.

At the debate, Obama incredibly said: "I've proposed a specific $4 trillion deficit reduction plan.... The way we do it is $2.50 for every cut, we ask for $1 in additional revenue."

In the Washington Post, even the liberal Glenn Kessler did not take Obama serious, writing “virtually no serious budget analyst agreed with this accounting."

Lie #2:Obama falsely claimed Romney's plan would raise taxes on middle class families.

Obama on Tuesday said under Romney's plan, "the average middle-class family with children would pay about $2,000 more."

But the The Associated Press agreed with studies the Romney campaign has cited that showed his plans would not raise taxes on anyone.

Lie #3:Obama said Obamacare would make health care premiums more affordable.

On Tuesday, Obama said:

The fact of the matter is that when Obamacare is fully implemented, we are going to be in a position to show that costs are going down. Over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up -- it is true -- but they have gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years. We are already seeing progress.

Factcheck.org found,“Obama wrongly said that over the last two years, health care premiums have 'gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years.'” The Los Angeles Times discovered that Obama’s promise that he would “cut family health insurance premiums by $2,500 by the end of his first term ... stands as one of the president's biggest unfulfilled promises.”

“In fact, the average employee share of an employer-provided health plan jumped from $3,515 in 2009 to $4,316 in 2012, an increase of more than 22%, according to a survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Health Research & Educational Trust,” The Times wrote.

And The Associated Press noted that “in 2011, premiums jumped by 9 percent” and “this year's 4 percent increase was more manageable, but the price tag for family coverage stands at $15,745, with employees paying more than $4,300 of that.”

Lie #4:Obama said he created five million private sector jobs.

Unbelievably, Obama still believes the private sector is doing fine. At the debate, Obama said “over the last 30 months, we’ve seen 5 million jobs in the private sector.”

But even Glenn Kessler, of the Washington Post, said Obama was trying to “obscure the fact that the overall job record so far in this presidential term has been negative."

According to USA Today, there have been “4.6 million private-sector jobs created since February 2010” and that number has been revised to 5.1 million. However, that revision is not a part of the Bureau Labor Statistics’ official tally and the number is still low by historical standards.

Lie #5:Obama said social security is “structurally sound.”

During the debate, Obama said “Social Security is structurally sound. It's going to have to be tweaked the way it was by Ronald Reagan and Speaker -- Democratic Speaker Tip O'Neill. But the basic structure is sound."

Even liberal Andrea Mitchell, on MSNBC, cited a Congressional Budget Office study that found Social Security would run into financial trouble.

"President Obama said he would tweak Social Security. What does that mean?,” Mitchell said on Thursday’s “Morning Joe.”“That Social Security is in good shape, fundamentally sound. We all know that's not true looking into the future."

These are just the the top 5.

Obama was sorry in the debate and has been a sorry President. Romney has the experience as Governor and has PROVEN he can work and get things done bi-partisan just as he did as Governor of one of the most democratic party states in America.
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Jobless Rate Report:

7.8%

Guess it's unreliable NOW that it's under 8%.
Dan the Man

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Dave Rogers of Clearfield wrote:
President Barack Obama's debate performance on Wednesday was so lackluster and listless that it overshadowed all his bold and audacious lies. These lies have since been fact-checked and recognized, even by the liberals in mainstream media organizations. Here are Obama's top-five lies from Tuesday's debate with Mitt Romney.
Lie #1:Obama said his plan would reduce the deficit by $4 trillion.
At the debate, Obama incredibly said: "I've proposed a specific $4 trillion deficit reduction plan.... The way we do it is $2.50 for every cut, we ask for $1 in additional revenue."
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These are just the the top 5.
Obama was sorry in the debate and has been a sorry President. Romney has the experience as Governor and has PROVEN he can work and get things done bi-partisan just as he did as Governor of one of the most democratic party states in America.
LOL! Now this is FUNNY!

I actually went to Brietbart and read the article you pasted here. Then I followed the links in the article and found that Breitbart had distorted the sources they quoted.

Imagine that - Breitbart lied!
Ted

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Joe Erie wrote:
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I love it, still at the same lies and you slobbering love for Obama!
Obama is the worlds worst FAILED leader.
I guess current events are a cloudy thing for you!
Obama showed his true self, nothing else!
Please get over your hate, lies, and finger pointing, even the biggest Republican HATERS said Obama was a school boy!
Next!
Dan the Man wrote:
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It's irresponsible to call the first black President of the United States a "boy."
!LOL!

So "school boy" is now a racist term according to you, danny BOY?

He didn't CALL Obama a 'boy,' he referred to Obama's performance as that OF a school boy, ie, immature, undisciplined, unpracticed, incompetent, and lacking in wisdom. Obama appeared foolish like a school boy. Of course that obvious distinction is lost on you, BOY.

"Chris Matthews and MSNBC Now Claim the Word 'Chicago' Is Racist"

You and Chris Matthews give cover to actual racists and sanction racism when you cry wolf at every opportunity.

danny BOY:'white privilege' racist, frequent plagiarist, pathological liar.
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Dan the Man wrote:
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I certainly don't know what the President was thinking last night, but this is a reasonable explanation. Certainly more reasonable than your ridiculous interpretation.
Dan the Man wrote:
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There's actually a name for what happened in the debate last night:
Gish Gallop
The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments that the opponent cannot possibly answer every falsehood in real time.
Romney positively BURIED the President in a torrent lies and there was no way to address them all. This is objective reality.
Your claim that the President was somehow defeated by superior debating skill or was shut-down in the face of FACTS is simply laughable. It's the irrational justification of someone desperate to prevent the balloon of artificial reality he lives in from being punctured by the facts and reality.
OMG, danny BOY!

Gish Gallop?

GISH GALLOP??

You appear frantically desperate, grasping at ANY straw to explain Obama's embarrassing, school-boyish debate performance.

It's difficult to choose a more pathetic explanation, your hilarious 'Gish Galloping' plaint or Al 'Chicken Little' Gore's postulation that it was the oxygen-starved Denver altitude.

Obama appears like a clueless idiot, as he did during the 'debate' the other night, without a teleprompter. Here, BOY, watch Obama try to defend Obamacare during a Virginia speech when his teleprompter failed. Gee, no 'Gish Galloping' defense possible for this cringing effort:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

You, BOY, appear even MORE foolish than Obama in proffering the 'Gish Galloping' defense.

!LOL!

Good one! You are a minion clown who will say ANYthing in defense of an obviously incompetent and under-skilled Obama.

danny BOY: racist, plagiarist, pathological liar.

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