20-60 months in wedding death

20-60 months in wedding death

There are 324 comments on the The Morning Call story from Jun 7, 2007, titled 20-60 months in wedding death. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

A wedding groomsman who caused the death of the bride's uncle by punching him during a post-reception brawl in Fogelsville apologized Wednesday for what he called ''a horrible accident.'' Moments later, a ...

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gramma

United States

#2 Jun 7, 2007
The Punisher wrote:
The family should have been allowed to hold him down and beat him for making a statement like that. To punch an uninvolved, defenseless man in the head and call it an accident is a joke. To have such a short fuse, he must have been picked on alot for those mickey mouse ears.
Gee, that's a bit conflicting...
No one should be allowed to punch a defenseless man.....
The family should hold him down and beat him....

He killed someone unintentionally, was convicted, sentenced, and is going to prison. He was wrong, and justice was served. Hopefully he'll get help with alcohol and an anger management course during his incarceration.

And what's with the sarcasm about anyone's ears? No need.

Seems many posters here could use that class as well.
carla

Bethlehem, PA

#5 Jun 7, 2007
Wells had drunken anger issues in 2003. This was no accident. He apparently is a person whose anger is intensified when under the influence.
I hope the victims family overcomes this tragedy. My thoughts go to them.
Tony

Macungie, PA

#7 Jun 7, 2007
It was a wedding...you're supposed to have fun!
Scott

Fogelsville, PA

#8 Jun 7, 2007
I'm baffled. Mr. Wells obviously intented to punch Mr. Shickling amongst making the choice to participate in the brawl but it was a "Accident". Mr. Wells has acceppted responsibility under the false impression he was involved in an accident. Have fun in Graterford but watch out someone may accidentally assault you. That happens there too.
gramma

United States

#9 Jun 7, 2007
I don't agree AT ALL with what he did. He may have gotten drunk and acted out in anger and killed this innocent victim. Believe me, my heart goes out to the victim's family as much as anyone. I never said it was an accident, either. I don't think his intention was to kill, though.

The conflict was with your statement, Punisher.

It was wrong for the guy to get angry and punch someone, yet you'd like to see the family do the same thing.

No, I'm not his gramma, I just can't fathom where all the anger and hatred originates in today's world. Certainly I get angry at situations as well, but I don't blame anyone else for my own mistakes like some seem to all the time. And I don't wish unfortunate futures for those that make mistakes if they're truly sorry for what they've done, change, and make amends and accept the responsibility, and pay the price.

I might be older, but I've lived through more than I can say. I still learn every day of my life and try to teach, not humiliate.

I too hope the family overcomes this tragedy. But I also hope being in prison teaches this guy something about his actions, and he comes out a better man.
GWH

Hazleton, PA

#10 Jun 7, 2007
If someone drove a car drunk and killed somebody they end up getting YEARS in prision. This guy intentionally tried to hurt someone and he gets 20 months???
gramma

United States

#11 Jun 7, 2007
Goooooooo Get Em wrote:
Way to go Punisher! I think Gramma was a bully in her early days. anyone who thinks it is alright needs to get sucker punched in the face themselves. Those ears will be pulled upon over those months.
I didn't say it was 'alright' for what Mr. Wills did. Please take time to read.

Thanks for your respect. You prove my point. LOL

Since: Jun 07

Allentown, PA

#12 Jun 7, 2007
gramma wrote:
I don't agree AT ALL with what he did. He may have gotten drunk and acted out in anger and killed this innocent victim. Believe me, my heart goes out to the victim's family as much as anyone. I never said it was an accident, either. I don't think his intention was to kill, though.
The conflict was with your statement, Punisher.
It was wrong for the guy to get angry and punch someone, yet you'd like to see the family do the same thing.
No, I'm not his gramma, I just can't fathom where all the anger and hatred originates in today's world. Certainly I get angry at situations as well, but I don't blame anyone else for my own mistakes like some seem to all the time. And I don't wish unfortunate futures for those that make mistakes if they're truly sorry for what they've done, change, and make amends and accept the responsibility, and pay the price.
I might be older, but I've lived through more than I can say. I still learn every day of my life and try to teach, not humiliate.
I too hope the family overcomes this tragedy. But I also hope being in prison teaches this guy something about his actions, and he comes out a better man.
I'm sorry, but we agree to disagree. He had opportunities to learn from his mistakes and chose not to. If humiliation or "an eye for an eye" makse this "bully" learn his lesson then so be it. The days of coddling these people are over. That could have been you standing there.
What

United States

#13 Jun 7, 2007
Have you ever heard of these words..."you hit~you lose!"

Now do your time! It's a shame that justice did not prevail in this case. He'll be walking out of that jail in not time. There is a dead man for crying out loud and this man gets a slap on the hand.

What goes around comes around! Let's hope this man never gets into a confrontation in jail...one sucker punch and your gone!

I don't feel sorry for this guy at all! He's nothing but a **** bully!

My heart goes out to the wife of the deceased and the deceaseds' whole family!

Since: Jun 07

Allentown, PA

#14 Jun 7, 2007
gramma wrote:
I don't agree AT ALL with what he did. He may have gotten drunk and acted out in anger and killed this innocent victim. Believe me, my heart goes out to the victim's family as much as anyone. I never said it was an accident, either. I don't think his intention was to kill, though.
The conflict was with your statement, Punisher.
It was wrong for the guy to get angry and punch someone, yet you'd like to see the family do the same thing.
No, I'm not his gramma, I just can't fathom where all the anger and hatred originates in today's world. Certainly I get angry at situations as well, but I don't blame anyone else for my own mistakes like some seem to all the time. And I don't wish unfortunate futures for those that make mistakes if they're truly sorry for what they've done, change, and make amends and accept the responsibility, and pay the price.
I might be older, but I've lived through more than I can say. I still learn every day of my life and try to teach, not humiliate.
I too hope the family overcomes this tragedy. But I also hope being in prison teaches this guy something about his actions, and he comes out a better man.
I'm sorry, I didn't finish. His family would not be doing the same thing, because he would know it was coming. He would have to wait nervously, wondering what they were going to do, and how they were going to do it. Let him see the smugness on their faces as it was on his face and the faces of his family when he walked away with a slap on the wrist for taking this life. You say you want to teach, but to teach you must have a student. This man has not shown that he is willing to be taught. He will learn that the men in prison are much bigger and stronger than he is. Justice at times is what happens after the sentencing. I hope when the guard hears him screaming they take just a little longer to get there. Maybe then he will be ready to learn a lesson, because he will sure be taking his medicine.
jgs

Bethlehem, PA

#15 Jun 7, 2007
gramma wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, that's a bit conflicting...
No one should be allowed to punch a defenseless man.....
The family should hold him down and beat him....
He killed someone unintentionally, was convicted, sentenced, and is going to prison. He was wrong, and justice was served. Hopefully he'll get help with alcohol and an anger management course during his incarceration.
And what's with the sarcasm about anyone's ears? No need.
Seems many posters here could use that class as well.
I agree with you 100% gramma on your entire statement!

“nuck nuck nuck”

Since: Feb 07

Bethlehem

#16 Jun 7, 2007
Justice was not served. Do you think less than 2 years incarceration is justice for taking away 20-30 years of life that Schickling had left?
gramma wrote:
<quoted text>
He killed someone unintentionally, was convicted, sentenced, and is going to prison. He was wrong, and justice was served. Hopefully he'll get help with alcohol and an anger management course during his incarceration.
And what's with the sarcasm about anyone's ears? No need.
Seems many posters here could use that class as well.
gramma

United States

#17 Jun 7, 2007
In that, yes I do agree. It takes more for some to learn from mistakes, and he should have.

And now he's been convicted. And he'll pay.
gramma

United States

#20 Jun 7, 2007
"I hope when the guard hears him screaming they take just a little longer to get there."

I'm hoping he'll learn just by his time there away from HIS family. And reflect on what he's done and has to live with the rest of his life as well. Everyone here is his victim, including his parents, fiance, and family for his choice to do this wrong. I hope he'll realize this this time, as he should have before.
Cindy

Hartford, CT

#21 Jun 7, 2007
If any of the people on this comment board really knew anything about how and why the entire incident happened, I would think you would have a different outlook. Everything in all the articles state they don't know what the argument was about. I don't understand how that didn't come out in the trial, hearings, etc. The brothers of the bride had conflicts with each other for ten years. The father of the brothers thought it would be a good idea to get them together and have them reconcile their differences. They attempted this while at the bar at the hotel which isn't a bright idea to begin with since they were drinking at the reception all night. The brothers started the fight with each other and proceeded to bring the fight out to the lobby. If the brothers couldn't be respectful of their niece's/daughter's wedding, then they shouldn't have come to the wedding and they certainly shouldn't have gone to the bar after the reception. Mark happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Mark must have a good punch to break a man's jaw and eyesocket with one punch, but the man then fell to the ground. The head hitting the hard floor caused the skull fracture. All I am trying to say is the Schrickling family started the brawl and Mark stepped in for the bride's father as it appeared the victim was about to punch the bride's father.

Not everything is in the paper and on the tv. It definitely wasn't intentional but the victim and its family are not innocent.
Minnie

Williston, ND

#22 Jun 7, 2007
gramma wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, that's a bit conflicting...
No one should be allowed to punch a defenseless man.....
The family should hold him down and beat him....
He killed someone unintentionally, was convicted, sentenced, and is going to prison. He was wrong, and justice was served. Hopefully he'll get help with alcohol and an anger management course during his incarceration.
And what's with the sarcasm about anyone's ears? No need.
Seems many posters here could use that class as well.
I agree ! Ears' to ya!
Don

Emmaus, PA

#23 Jun 7, 2007
I guess the lesson we can all take away from this is that if we want to kill someone, all we need to do is sucker punch them in the head as hard as possible, and the most time we will face is 20 - 60 months in jail.

I have a clean record, so I will get much less time - maybe even probation.

Not a bad deal. Lets see, who do I want to get rid of???

“It's Evolution Baby.....”

Since: Feb 07

Allentown Pa

#24 Jun 7, 2007
20 months is a joke.

The victim's family should just pick him up in 20 months. You know, get something to eat, have a drink or two. He'll be mighty thirsty in 20 months. Then, when he inevitably throws a punch, they can do what needs to be done.

“You call THIS civilization??”

Since: Mar 07

Orefield, PA

#25 Jun 7, 2007
He's got some serious issues if when he drinks, he fights. What's under the surface? I can't believe that fiancee is still with him either. She should run while the runnin's good before it's she that provokes him!

He is a major jerk. The uncle wasn't even in the fight! I agree with GWH -- if he would've been driving it would have been a whole different sentence. But the basics of the case are the same - a drunk and a death - only this is worse, a certain malice was involved I feel. He went for his head with a punch in anger.

That's just not fair. I don't see a TOTAL "accident." He may not have intended death, but he intended harm.

“I've now been in 57 states”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#28 Jun 7, 2007
Cindy wrote:
If any of the people on this comment board really knew anything about how and why the entire incident happened, I would think you would have a different outlook. Everything in all the articles state they don't know what the argument was about. I don't understand how that didn't come out in the trial, hearings, etc. The brothers of the bride had conflicts with each other for ten years. The father of the brothers thought it would be a good idea to get them together and have them reconcile their differences. They attempted this while at the bar at the hotel which isn't a bright idea to begin with since they were drinking at the reception all night. The brothers started the fight with each other and proceeded to bring the fight out to the lobby. If the brothers couldn't be respectful of their niece's/daughter's wedding, then they shouldn't have come to the wedding and they certainly shouldn't have gone to the bar after the reception. Mark happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Mark must have a good punch to break a man's jaw and eyesocket with one punch, but the man then fell to the ground. The head hitting the hard floor caused the skull fracture. All I am trying to say is the Schrickling family started the brawl and Mark stepped in for the bride's father as it appeared the victim was about to punch the bride's father.
Not everything is in the paper and on the tv. It definitely wasn't intentional but the victim and its family are not innocent.
Unbelievable, someone is actually trying to defend taking someone else's life. What a sicko. The circumstances are irrelevant; especially those presented form your biased viewpoint.

There is no defending what this idiot did and 20 months in jail is a monumental joke.

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