Police Blotter

There are 20 comments on the Aug 1, 2009, The Morning Call story titled Police Blotter. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

State police plan DUI checkpoints State police will conduct sobriety checkpoints in three counties this weekend as part of their statewide initiative to reduce drunken-driving-related accidents and deaths.

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Anti

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#21 Aug 1, 2009
Dennis Mac wrote:
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No, but the Fourth Amendment IS a RIGHT.
(At least it used to be)
It's the same with the all the others:
You can own firearms, UNLESS .....
You can speak and pray freely, UNLESS .....
You can assemble peacefully, UNLESS .....
You can't be unreasonable searched, UNLESS .....
Everything is a privilege these days.
There are no more "RIGHTS".
Not sure why this guy is so anti-government and anti authority. Very negative in many of his posts. Every Amendment comes with an "unless." Freedom Of Speach is a right UNLESS you use it to cause a riot, Freedom to own a firearm is a right UNLESS you are a convicted Felon. Etc Etc Etc. They are common sense. The day you believe you have these rights NO MATTER what is the day that this country will cave in.

Since: Mar 07

Bethlehem, PA

#22 Aug 2, 2009
Anti wrote:
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Not sure why this guy is so anti-government and anti authority. Very negative in many of his posts. Every Amendment comes with an "unless." Freedom Of Speach is a right UNLESS you use it to cause a riot, Freedom to own a firearm is a right UNLESS you are a convicted Felon. Etc Etc Etc. They are common sense. The day you believe you have these rights NO MATTER what is the day that this country will cave in.

You just proved my point: That "Rights" are no-longer "Rights", but are now "Privileges".

Freedom of Speech/Prayer is a Right, UNLESS you're a Christian Priest, asked to give the Invocation at a State Assembly session. Then, you cannot mention Jesus Christ.

Firearms cannot be owned by "Felons"?
The Statutes (both State and Federal) make no mention of the word "felon". There are many many Misdemeanor, non-violent crimes which would cause you to lose the "privilege".

Get your facts straight.
Point Proven

AOL

#23 Aug 2, 2009
You type before YOU read. I referenced the fact that Felons are not allowed to carry firearms. The statue, although very well may specify other criminals, is known as Felons Not To Carry. I guess your Wilkpedia search didn't explain that to you. The funny thing is, I agree with you on the foundation of what you are saying, but argue the points that "rights" are privileges. We all have rights but lose them if we violate the law. If we didn't, we would live in even a more chaotic world. In a perfect world we would all have these rights 24/7, but due to about 10% of society who could care less about the law we are subject to this. I have read many of your past posts and just find it funny that you have a trend of being so anti-authority. Bashing police and other officials who are the same people that make sure your rights are protected. It seems as if you ignore the 99% of hard working public servants and focus on the 1% who are corrupt. I respect all public servants because just about everyone serves me as they are hired to do.
How About My Rights

Allentown, PA

#24 Aug 2, 2009
Your rights VS My Rights? I feel that my rights should exempt me from being detained at a DUI check point when I know I am sober and did nothing to draw the suspicion of a law enforcement officer. I am minding my own business coming home yet am subject to being stopped for about 30 seconds and looked at. With this said, we can not have everything both ways. How about my other rights as a human being driving home, minding my own business, when a drunk driver slams into my car head on and kills me or disables me? I sure would rather give up 30 seconds of my time at a DUI checkpoint than lay in the hospital for 3 months. Say what you want about rights, but I feel my right to be safe far outweighs my right to be stopped for 30 seconds in order to screen out drunk drivers. So why are your rights any more important than mine?

In fact, I thank the police for doing this. And even if there is only ONE drunk driver removed, its one less drunk driver that you or I have to worry about hitting us. If your willing to protest a DUI check point don't come crying back upset when your mangled inside of your car after a preventable DUI crash takes place.
Rappers delight

Kulpsville, PA

#25 Aug 2, 2009
do they still check in GLENDON?

Since: Mar 07

Bethlehem, PA

#26 Aug 2, 2009
Point Proven wrote:
The statue, although very well may specify other criminals, is known as Felons Not To Carry.

Laws may be given names (Megan's Law, etc.), but when referenced, are referenced by their Title.

The FEDERAL Statute is 18 USC §922g(1) and states that anyone convicted of a crime punishable by one year or more in prison may not own a firearm .... ever.

Do you have any idea how many harmless misdemeanors this encompasses?

Moreover, short of a Presidential or Gubernatorial Pardon, there is no way to re-instate your 2nd Amendment Right.

It's interesting that in PA, there is a list of more-serious offenses which make gun ownership a state crime. If you have one of these, you CAN petition the Court for relief under 42PACS§6105.1. This will also relieve you of the Federal restrictions.

But if you've committed a "lesser" crime, the Court doesn't grant you relief, because there is no state restriction. The trouble is, that you still run afoul of the Federal restrictions.

This makes absolutely no sense to any rationally thinking person.
Um Ok

Bethlehem, PA

#27 Aug 2, 2009
The term militia is commonly used today to refer to a military force composed of ordinary citizens to provide defense, emergency law enforcement, or paramilitary service, in times of emergency without being paid a regular salary or committed to a fixed term of service.

Since: Mar 07

Bethlehem, PA

#28 Aug 3, 2009
Um Ok wrote:
The term militia is commonly used today to refer to a military force composed of ordinary citizens to provide defense, emergency law enforcement, or paramilitary service, in times of emergency without being paid a regular salary or committed to a fixed term of service.

The founding fathers considered a militia necessary to protect the citizens from unfair government. After all, it was only a small militia that defeated the British.

Today however, the "militia" is the National Guard, which is commanded by the federal forces during deployment.

Times change.

“"two wings of the same bird"”

Since: May 09

Home..... is where the ammo is

#29 Aug 3, 2009
Dennis Mac wrote:
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The founding fathers considered a militia necessary to protect the citizens from unfair government. After all, it was only a small militia that defeated the British.
Today however, the "militia" is the National Guard, which is commanded by the federal forces during deployment.
Times change.
I was just thinkin about that myself, how incredibly convenient for the government to also be in control of the only force we could have to keep them from making "subjects" out of us. I have a feeling that if the people began to protest our current two faced one party system that we would instantly face some sort of disaster and would be placed under martial law. We need to start lookin at what we can do for ourselves. If I didn't have a young daughter that I am raisin without a mother, I would definitely be attempting to "bring the citizens together". I can't afford to have my kid go through the repercussions of such actions so I will be waitin another couple of years until she is set and on her way in life as a young adult. As is, we are totally defenseless from those in control, think what you wish but this is not a good thing.
Why do we currently have multi million illegals running in and out of our country on a daily basis, when we have been under threat of attack from terrorists for a long time now, why are our borders not secured? Surely if they can bring 4000 troops home to permanently be a stateside force to quell domestic events, they should ALL be patrolling OUR borders if the government were actually concerned........things that make you say, Hmmmmm.......We are much closer to a police state than you realize, hopefully you realize it before it's too late.
BTW, an old fridge with good door seals when gutted and all holes sealed with silicon caulk, make an excellent sealed storage unit and will last quite long if buried in the ground......

Since: Mar 07

Bethlehem, PA

#30 Aug 3, 2009
HADENOUGH LEHIGH VALLEY wrote:
<quoted text>I was just thinkin about that myself, how incredibly convenient for the government to also be in control of the only force we could have to keep them from making "subjects" out of us. I have a feeling that if the people began to protest our current two faced one party system that we would instantly face some sort of disaster and would be placed under martial law. We need to start lookin at what we can do for ourselves. If I didn't have a young daughter that I am raisin without a mother, I would definitely be attempting to "bring the citizens together". I can't afford to have my kid go through the repercussions of such actions so I will be waitin another couple of years until she is set and on her way in life as a young adult. As is, we are totally defenseless from those in control, think what you wish but this is not a good thing.
Why do we currently have multi million illegals running in and out of our country on a daily basis, when we have been under threat of attack from terrorists for a long time now, why are our borders not secured? Surely if they can bring 4000 troops home to permanently be a stateside force to quell domestic events, they should ALL be patrolling OUR borders if the government were actually concerned........things that make you say, Hmmmmm.......We are much closer to a police state than you realize, hopefully you realize it before it's too late.
BTW, an old fridge with good door seals when gutted and all holes sealed with silicon caulk, make an excellent sealed storage unit and will last quite long if buried in the ground......

Well I live alone, and my kids are grown now.

I'm waiting for the day that they come to collect my guns.

They'll have to kill me, and it will cost them dearly. I don't make threats. I state facts.

“"two wings of the same bird"”

Since: May 09

Home..... is where the ammo is

#31 Aug 3, 2009
Dennis Mac wrote:
<quoted text>
Well I live alone, and my kids are grown now.
I'm waiting for the day that they come to collect my guns.
They'll have to kill me, and it will cost them dearly. I don't make threats. I state facts.
Waiting is not enough, the people who care about us as a free country, such as our forefathers did, need to organize as they did also.

Waiting around will only bring the inevitable....

Since: Mar 07

Bethlehem, PA

#32 Aug 3, 2009
HADENOUGH LEHIGH VALLEY wrote:
<quoted text>Waiting is not enough, the people who care about us as a free country, such as our forefathers did, need to organize as they did also.
Waiting around will only bring the inevitable....

I also believe in fighting only when necessary.

Things are bad, and not getting any better, but they're not yet to the point where I'd go off half-cocked to a compound in Waco or anything.

I'm all for peace,... until attacked, or painted into a corner.
Hum

Allentown, PA

#33 Aug 3, 2009
If you want to drink stay home and drink. Nothing wrong with that. But when you drink and drive on the same roads as myself and my family members, this pisses me off.

I think all bar rooms should be blown up, for they are the trouble makers in this society. And don't tell me that you are responsible for your own self. There are many people out there that have head probems and are to stupid tp know the difference between right and wrong. I just don't get it, why dosen't a bar have a 3 drink max and then you need to leave. Stamp their hands with an ink not washed off for 24 hours and when you enter another bar you must show your hand under a light and if you have that stamp you don't get served.
If you want to drink at home you must order in just like a pizza. But NO
nobody seems to try and figure out a way to keep drunks off the road. The county and state spend and collect money up the ash every year by throwing drunks in jail, fineing them and paying court cost to feed the laywers yet they don't take none of that monery to try and get a better system on how to prevent them from getting behind the wheel of a moving object that can kill. Even the hookups they have can be altered. Awh I guess it's the old saying "Who Cares"

“"two wings of the same bird"”

Since: May 09

Home..... is where the ammo is

#34 Aug 3, 2009
Dennis Mac wrote:
<quoted text>
I also believe in fighting only when necessary.
Things are bad, and not getting any better, but they're not yet to the point where I'd go off half-cocked to a compound in Waco or anything.
I'm all for peace,... until attacked, or painted into a corner.
That's exactly why organizing is needed. Things aren't gettin better and when the day comes and you are painted into your corner, you wil die alone just another filled bodybag. I aint tryin to get to that point, I want a plan, one with many others that would not surrender to them, it'd be the only chance. There is no need for fighting now, but when or if it does happen, being one person who will not be taken alive is a moot point. then you may as well just surrender or buy your own bodybag.
JMHO

“"two wings of the same bird"”

Since: May 09

Home..... is where the ammo is

#35 Aug 3, 2009
Hum wrote:
If you want to drink stay home and drink. Nothing wrong with that. But when you drink and drive on the same roads as myself and my family members, this pisses me off.
I think all bar rooms should be blown up, for they are the trouble makers in this society. And don't tell me that you are responsible for your own self. There are many people out there that have head probems and are to stupid tp know the difference between right and wrong. I just don't get it, why dosen't a bar have a 3 drink max and then you need to leave. Stamp their hands with an ink not washed off for 24 hours and when you enter another bar you must show your hand under a light and if you have that stamp you don't get served.
If you want to drink at home you must order in just like a pizza. But NO
nobody seems to try and figure out a way to keep drunks off the road. The county and state spend and collect money up the ash every year by throwing drunks in jail, fineing them and paying court cost to feed the laywers yet they don't take none of that monery to try and get a better system on how to prevent them from getting behind the wheel of a moving object that can kill. Even the hookups they have can be altered. Awh I guess it's the old saying "Who Cares"
I understand the concern, but the laws must be equal across the board. Arresting someone for something that might of happened is just wrong. If you step off the curb not at an intersection you should be cited because you MIGHT have J walked. When you purchase a gun you should be arrested because you MIGHT shoot someone. When you walk up to a stranger you should be arrested because you MIGHT rob them.
I do not agree with driving while drinking but for police to target people is plain wrong and is discrimination unless every single operator of every single vehicle at a checkpoint is tested for intoxicants.

“I am male.”

Since: Apr 09

Hazleton, PA

#36 Aug 4, 2009
In my lifetime I have been detained by DUI police 2 times. Both times I was sober. The one time was by a "roving" DUI police group, in that I was surrounded by four police cars and told to pull over. After being questioned, then waiting 45 minutes for info to come back from Harrisburg's top notch computer system, I was sent on my way. 8 policemen stood around waiting for that negative info, and when it came back, it pissed em all off. Second time I went into the city for hotdogs. 2 blocks up the street was a checkpoint. My route to go home didn't include the checkpoint, so I turned onto a side street to head back home, and in 30 seconds time I had cops all around me. That one took 30 minutes and the hotdogs got cold. When they asked me if I had been drinking that night, I told themn I always get drunk and go for hotdogs. Doesn't everybody ? You are dammed if ya do...dammed if ya don't.
Twiddle Dee Twiddle Dumb

Allentown, PA

#37 Aug 4, 2009
qcumbr1 wrote:
In my lifetime I have been detained by DUI police 2 times. Both times I was sober. The one time was by a "roving" DUI police group, in that I was surrounded by four police cars and told to pull over. After being questioned, then waiting 45 minutes for info to come back from Harrisburg's top notch computer system, I was sent on my way. 8 policemen stood around waiting for that negative info, and when it came back, it pissed em all off. Second time I went into the city for hotdogs. 2 blocks up the street was a checkpoint. My route to go home didn't include the checkpoint, so I turned onto a side street to head back home, and in 30 seconds time I had cops all around me. That one took 30 minutes and the hotdogs got cold. When they asked me if I had been drinking that night, I told themn I always get drunk and go for hotdogs. Doesn't everybody ? You are dammed if ya do...dammed if ya don't.
I have a bad leg from many years ago.
I was stopped going home one night from work (middle shift) and I was pulled over and asked to step out of the car. When I questioned as to why, the officer stated are you dis obeying me (I am a 5 foot 2 ---woman). I replied NO Sir, trying to keep my kool and I stepped from the car. He told me I had to walk a white line along the road and I refused due to the fact I would fall if I tried. The officer became a bully and and I began to shout at him at this point. I said take me in JOCKO, cause if you can't read my license then you don't belong being a cop. Next thing I see 3 other cop cars coming up the road. Holey SHI@
they came from no where, Donut Shop must have been closed, he he he. One of the cops was someone I knew and to boot he recognized me immediately thank god. Well I pressed charges on this officer and he no longer works for that district! You have your GOOD COPS and you have your BAD COPS.
red rover

Kulpsville, PA

#38 Aug 5, 2009
Needs to be stops on Northampton st. in Easton at 2:15 AM
SMOKE

Kulpsville, PA

#39 Aug 5, 2009
Go wait for them in Wilson on butler st.
Yep

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#40 Aug 7, 2009
Dennis Mac wrote:
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I also believe in fighting only when necessary.
Things are bad, and not getting any better, but they're not yet to the point where I'd go off half-cocked to a compound in Waco or anything.
I'm all for peace,... until attacked, or painted into a corner.
You can tell this guy is very smart, but has some very extreme thoughts. It is fantasic to be so educated on history, but you can not overreact on everything.

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