Letters: Caught unprepared

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How does one prepare for earthquakes, tsunamis, several feet of snow, torrential rains, tornados and unprecedented record-breaking weather? I sure don't know and I certainly don't blame the weatherman. Full Story
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Quack

El Paso, TX

#1 Feb 12, 2011
I have since found out, that the chillers at both plants for the electric company were frozen solid. If the proper cooling tower is purchased, then it would not freeze.
Really Are YOU for REAL

El Paso, TX

#2 Feb 12, 2011
Beth Rivera, you hit the nail on the head. Great post!

Mayor Cook, take heed, she isn't the only one that feels that way. I think it's time for you to "get outa Dodge".

The people voted for you only because you were the only one to vote for. Chances are, if they had it to do over, and you were the only one on the ballot I think that they would vote to have no Mayor at all, which is exactly what they have now.
TorC

El Paso, TX

#3 Feb 12, 2011
So run, RAYFR, Run!
agree

El Paso, TX

#4 Feb 12, 2011
Really Are YOU for REAL wrote:
Beth Rivera, you hit the nail on the head. Great post!
Mayor Cook, take heed, she isn't the only one that feels that way. I think it's time for you to "get outa Dodge".
The people voted for you only because you were the only one to vote for. Chances are, if they had it to do over, and you were the only one on the ballot I think that they would vote to have no Mayor at all, which is exactly what they have now.
I agree, Cook should man up and go.
xxx

El Paso, TX

#5 Feb 12, 2011
People, this past freeze that we all experienced goes a lot deeper than just about our utility companies being caught with their pants down. Many other people were effected as well, I do not beleive that anyone will fault the workers that were out in the cold doing a job that they get paid to do. How about those hourly paid people all over town that have lost income due to not being able to go to work because of the mandated closing due to the shortages of water and electricty. I am one of those people who did not go to work for 4 days, not because I did not want to but because I was told not to go to work. IE: the EPISD school system, I was ready, able and willing to go to work, but was told to stay home, now I am faced with a possible loss of at least two days of pay. We are told that we can make up the time by working longer hours in excess of our normal 8 hour working day. Of couse we will not see the extra time working in our pay checks, those hours will be used to make up at least two days pay where as it appears that the non hourly paid people will not have to make up two of the four days that EPISD was closed down. The students may only have to make up 2 of the 4 days, if the state waviers those days...as usual its the hourly paid employees that will either have to make up 2 of the 4 days either by working longer hours, using up any comp time accured, using up their sick and or personnel time or at the very least, loose two days pay. Where is the justice to the hourly paid employees ---once again Dr. Garcia stays out of touch and seems to be taken care of his own, (the admin personnel) and not those of us that actually work in a school room, a cafteria, or janitorial positions to name just a few hourly paid positions within the EPISD system. Its always a one way street within the EPISD school system and it all starts with Dr. Garcia and his falilure to lead as it concerns to all employees and not just the few in the admin positions...
Ese

El Paso, TX

#6 Feb 12, 2011
Really Are YOU for REAL wrote:
Beth Rivera, you hit the nail on the head. Great post!
Mayor Cook, take heed, she isn't the only one that feels that way. I think it's time for you to "get outa Dodge".
The people voted for you only because you were the only one to vote for. Chances are, if they had it to do over, and you were the only one on the ballot I think that they would vote to have no Mayor at all, which is exactly what they have now.
It's time for ALL the fools to go. These democrats have run this city in to the ground while at the same time ripping us off from our hard-earned wages. It's time we vote for more Republican candidates. Let the big boys take over and allow them to do it the right way.
TorC

El Paso, TX

#7 Feb 12, 2011
You tell 'em, Ese! George W. Bush for Mayor! Rumsfeld for Police Chief! Michael Brown for Emergency Preparedness! Alberto Gonzales for D.A.! Jack Abramoff to run Public Relations. And Mark Foley to oversee all our day care facilities!
LLBD

El Paso, TX

#8 Feb 12, 2011
Dear Beth: do you ever take a vacation? Well, the mayor was on vacation. Therefore, he could handle the problem over the phone, and with the CITY MANAGER! Now, get off your high horse.
james russell

El Paso, TX

#9 Feb 12, 2011
It seem Steve Ortega has proposed that a committee be appointed to discuss and make recommendations on the freeze. He however is limiting it to a three (3) person panel. Wonder which one of his cronies will get the spot. We need a panel but it should be a panel where we have at least 15 people involved. One for every district in town, 1 for each school district, 1 for each police district and 1 for each county sheriff's district. That should cover the area with a monitor and 2 civil lawyers and 1 criminal lawyer to advise. Sort of like a grand jury that is not answerable to any political body. The responsible parties are those who failed to take into account that taking out both generation stations at once would be a good idea since "El Paso does not use that much electricity during the winter". And to the EPWU for not having back up generators to run the pumps if there was a power failure of any prolonged period of time. Everyone was unprepared for this but the ones who should have been better prepared are the Utilities and the City Government.
james russell

El Paso, TX

#10 Feb 12, 2011
LLBD wrote:
Dear Beth: do you ever take a vacation? Well, the mayor was on vacation. Therefore, he could handle the problem over the phone, and with the CITY MANAGER! Now, get off your high horse.
LLBD do you ever stop making mouth noises? There are some people in the town who are unable to take any trip out of town or go on vacations because they cannot afford to do so. They have to work all the time or are on social security that makes it impossible. Ain't everybody rich like you and the Lord High Mayor. Get a life. He should have returned to El Paso regardless of what you think. His town, his responsibility.
Liam

El Paso, TX

#11 Feb 12, 2011
It's high time we all woke up and grabbed the bull by the balls as the writer suggested. We were all caught with our pants down by this storm, some of us with them around our ankles. I assumed it would be another gorgeous day when I woke up that morning and wore no underwear as per usual. After I went to relieve myself in the bathroom during the day, all of a sudden I heard a great commotion and came rushing out to see what the bother was. I learned that the storm had struck and that we were all going to freeze, but much to my chagrin I was giving the ladies quite an eyeful having forgot to pull up my trousers. One of the secretaries said that all men would have to keep the brass monnkkeys in that night but mine were already exposed. I truly had egg on my face, or more precisely, on my butt. However, I learned a valuable lesson and have since moved on as I urge the rest of you to do as well.
check it

El Paso, TX

#12 Feb 12, 2011
xxx wrote:
People, this past freeze that we all experienced goes a lot deeper than just about our utility companies being caught with their pants down. Many other people were effected as well, I do not beleive that anyone will fault the workers that were out in the cold doing a job that they get paid to do. How about those hourly paid people all over town that have lost income due to not being able to go to work because of the mandated closing due to the shortages of water and electricty. I am one of those people who did not go to work for 4 days, not because I did not want to but because I was told not to go to work. IE: the EPISD school system, I was ready, able and willing to go to work, but was told to stay home, now I am faced with a possible loss of at least two days of pay. We are told that we can make up the time by working longer hours in excess of our normal 8 hour working day. Of couse we will not see the extra time working in our pay checks, those hours will be used to make up at least two days pay where as it appears that the non hourly paid people will not have to make up two of the four days that EPISD was closed down. The students may only have to make up 2 of the 4 days, if the state waviers those days...as usual its the hourly paid employees that will either have to make up 2 of the 4 days either by working longer hours, using up any comp time accured, using up their sick and or personnel time or at the very least, loose two days pay. Where is the justice to the hourly paid employees ---once again Dr. Garcia stays out of touch and seems to be taken care of his own,(the admin personnel) and not those of us that actually work in a school room, a cafteria, or janitorial positions to name just a few hourly paid positions within the EPISD system. Its always a one way street within the EPISD school system and it all starts with Dr. Garcia and his falilure to lead as it concerns to all employees and not just the few in the admin positions...
I would check with the employment comission; if the employer mandates that you cannot report to work, they cannot dock your pay. Pay can only be docked if you opt not to report to work.
foolish

El Paso, TX

#13 Feb 12, 2011
Ese wrote:
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It's time for ALL the fools to go. These democrats have run this city in to the ground while at the same time ripping us off from our hard-earned wages. It's time we vote for more Republican candidates. Let the big boys take over and allow them to do it the right way.
The other large cities in Texas that are run by Republicans and the small towns that are die hard republican are suffering the same break downs. You are a fool to blame this on any party. The truth of the matter is, we are not prepared for these issues because they only happen once in every 10 years. This will not happen again for another many years and in 6 months this will be forgotten.
Someone

El Paso, TX

#14 Feb 12, 2011
Yolanda McKinnon, you go bake some cookies to the over- paid utility workers, as far as the blame, yes it was the CEO's of the three major utility providers who are at fault! Personally I blame myself for my busted pipes at home, I was lulled into a false state of security by the people in charge of providing energy (Never Again). That is why they are in that position to make sure our service's are not interrupted, they heard the same weather forecast as we did and still NO preventive measures were taken. The news person from the national news covering the 'freeze' called our generating electric plants "outdated" and "antiquated", what a disgrace. Do you really think they did their job?? You must live under a rock or a cave to except the big failure from Mayor Cook, Joyce Wilson, and the department heads of our utility company's. They dropped the ball like FEMA did in New Orleans just quite not at such catastrophic levels. Excuses, everyone has one just like we have a certain hole!
Cowboy

El Paso, TX

#15 Feb 12, 2011
Liam wrote:
It's high time we all woke up and grabbed the bull by the balls as the writer suggested. We were all caught with our pants down by this storm, some of us with them around our ankles. I assumed it would be another gorgeous day when I woke up that morning and wore no underwear as per usual. After I went to relieve myself in the bathroom during the day, all of a sudden I heard a great commotion and came rushing out to see what the bother was. I learned that the storm had struck and that we were all going to freeze, but much to my chagrin I was giving the ladies quite an eyeful having forgot to pull up my trousers. One of the secretaries said that all men would have to keep the brass monnkkeys in that night but mine were already exposed. I truly had egg on my face, or more precisely, on my butt. However, I learned a valuable lesson and have since moved on as I urge the rest of you to do as well.
Tell the truth now, it was not egg on your behind, now was it?? More like skid marks right? Try Depends or any other adult diaper, perhaps you won't leave any evidence behind!
Someone

El Paso, TX

#16 Feb 12, 2011
james russell wrote:
It seem Steve Ortega has proposed that a committee be appointed to discuss and make recommendations on the freeze. He however is limiting it to a three (3) person panel. Wonder which one of his cronies will get the spot. We need a panel but it should be a panel where we have at least 15 people involved. One for every district in town, 1 for each school district, 1 for each police district and 1 for each county sheriff's district. That should cover the area with a monitor and 2 civil lawyers and 1 criminal lawyer to advise. Sort of like a grand jury that is not answerable to any political body. The responsible parties are those who failed to take into account that taking out both generation stations at once would be a good idea since "El Paso does not use that much electricity during the winter". And to the EPWU for not having back up generators to run the pumps if there was a power failure of any prolonged period of time. Everyone was unprepared for this but the ones who should have been better prepared are the Utilities and the City Government.
I agree with you only I would take it a step further and demand the stockholders to consider replacing the CEO of El Paso Electric. In a previous post I admit I was lulled into a false sense of security and I failed my family for the busted pipes in 'my home' and I blame myself. As far as the rolling blackouts, responsibility directly falls on the top echelon in charge of El Paso Electric (they were called outdated)! Several heads should roll in that entity along with Texas Gas, and the Water Utilities. They failed miserably and should be held accountable along with the over paid City Manager!
Oh My Gosh

El Paso, TX

#17 Feb 13, 2011
Just wait until ELECTION TIME. . . . .
Teresa

El Paso, TX

#18 Feb 13, 2011
I agree that the El Paso City Council, Mayor, Electric Company and Water Utilities are in gross neglegence with handling the snow and ice storm, but why to this day are they still treating the citizens this way? El Paso Times will come through to help us get the word out.
ima

El Paso, TX

#19 Feb 13, 2011
Really Are YOU for REAL wrote:
Beth Rivera, you hit the nail on the head. Great post!
Mayor Cook, take heed, she isn't the only one that feels that way. I think it's time for you to "get outa Dodge".
The people voted for you only because you were the only one to vote for. Chances are, if they had it to do over, and you were the only one on the ballot I think that they would vote to have no Mayor at all, which is exactly what they have now.
Yea we have no mayor, SO WHY STICK AROUND MR. CROOK? We're better off without you, YOUR FIRED. WE ARE ASKING YOUR RESIGNATION!!!!!
ima

El Paso, TX

#20 Feb 13, 2011
LLBD wrote:
Dear Beth: do you ever take a vacation? Well, the mayor was on vacation. Therefore, he could handle the problem over the phone, and with the CITY MANAGER! Now, get off your high horse.
But he didn't take care of the problem did he?, this never should've been a problem if yearly inspections were done & ordered by the mayor sooner or later the inspectors would've realized our systems wouldn't withstand a deep freeze. Certainly once this was confirmed then steps would've been taken to begin CORRECTING, INSTALLING whatever needed correction.

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