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There are 81 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 11, 2007, titled Missing money investigated, pastor removed from Flossmoor Catho.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Complaints of missing money and financial mismanagement at Infant Jesus of Prague Roman Catholic Church in Flossmoor have led to the pastor's temporary removal, a state's attorney's investigation and an ...

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zoxim

Naperville, IL

#1 Dec 11, 2007
"The first sign of trouble came two years ago when more than $1,000 in cash was missing from Sunday collections. More questions arose after the pastor, Rev. William E. Killeen, installed a wet bar in the rectory"
LOL

Why did he need a wet bar? To entertain the boys?

More proof religion is for suckers.
commander guy

United States

#2 Dec 11, 2007
Nothing wrong with a little faith-based borrowing from the ol' church coffers. It is verry good for the economy.
Tetsugen

Darien, IL

#4 Dec 11, 2007
I like the Cardinal's meely-mouthed response...the same response the church hierarchy makes to the pedophiles and other corrupt clergy. Boy am I glad I had the sense as a teenager many years ago to realize there was something wrong with "these people" and dropped out of the Roman Catholic cult.
Reality

Glen Ellyn, IL

#5 Dec 11, 2007
zoxim wrote:
"The first sign of trouble came two years ago when more than $1,000 in cash was missing from Sunday collections. More questions arose after the pastor, Rev. William E. Killeen, installed a wet bar in the rectory"
LOL
Why did he need a wet bar? To entertain the boys?
More proof religion is for suckers.
Most religious people aren't offended at all by you calling us "suckers." Think about what that(not being offended by name callers) might mean?
JRR

Lawrenceburg, IN

#8 Dec 12, 2007
The churches wonder why they are losing membership, this is just one more example of why. Between stealing money and molesting little boys the person in charge of these churches is nothing but scum.
Marlore

Springfield, WI

#9 Dec 12, 2007
PEOPLE WE MUST REALIZE, THAT CHRUCH PEOPLE ARE HUMAN, AND THEY TOO MAKE MISTAKES. YES PLEASE BELIEVE IT!!!!
TOM SLICK

Chicago, IL

#10 Dec 12, 2007
That's what I like about the catholic church. You screw up and get hired at another parish. The cardinal should also loose his job, but that might be to much like right. The man is like mayor daley, he can explain anyting away.
Promises Promises

Naperville, IL

#11 Dec 12, 2007
The Roman Catholic Church is being destroyed, piece by piece, at an accelerating rate, by the very clergy who are supposed to be its servants and ministers.

What will 2008 hold for the Archdiocese of Chicago?

The Church has become a very old and very sick lady for sure.
The Avenger

United States

#12 Dec 12, 2007
Having attended IJP in the 1960's, and finding out that an admitted pedophile, John Hefferan, was the associate pastor during my time, the actions of Kileen are not surprising. The entire church is corrupt, from the Pope down. The Bishops comments are, as usual, weak. I am disgusted.
TOM SLICK

Chicago, IL

#13 Dec 12, 2007
Marlore wrote:
PEOPLE WE MUST REALIZE, THAT CHRUCH PEOPLE ARE HUMAN, AND THEY TOO MAKE MISTAKES. YES PLEASE BELIEVE IT!!!!
A wet bar, and $25,000 in furniture? You're right about the mistake. The mistake of getting caught.
MOC

Chicago, IL

#14 Dec 12, 2007
He's a great guy who made the mistake of trusting the wrong people. He's not an accountant; he's a priest. This story omits a few key facts to paint a scandal where none exists. Scandal sells, and the only suckers are the ones buying it.
Face 2 Face

Monee, IL

#15 Dec 12, 2007
TOM SLICK wrote:
That's what I like about the catholic church. You screw up and get hired at another parish. The cardinal should also loose his job, but that might be to much like right. The man is like mayor daley, he can explain anyting away.
After a couple of "Hailmary's" you would be correct.
Barbara

Tampa, FL

#16 Dec 12, 2007
This is another sad situation in the church. Nothing has changed throughout the years from Rome to all over the world in individual parishes. No wonder most people have finally realized this and no longer attend/support the church.
Skeptic

Fort Worth, TX

#17 Dec 12, 2007
I guess the Pope's message on "materialism" came a little too late.
The Avenger

United States

#18 Dec 12, 2007
MOC wrote:
He's a great guy who made the mistake of trusting the wrong people. He's not an accountant; he's a priest.

What, did he invite you over for a drink? 3 business managers? I think he knows plenty about accounting, especially cash disbursements.
Pat

Lansing, IL

#19 Dec 12, 2007
Why should any be surprised? I just do not understand why folk insist on membership with the Roman Catholic church. A male dominated, culturally irreverent, out of step with the times, founded on lies of celibacy designed to protect property, slave holding, excuse making, not welcoming challenges and questions from adherents of the Church's doctrine, and proven to be the reason for the destruction of many indigenous cultures.
PNL

United States

#21 Dec 12, 2007
Nice Job by the Catholic Church no money for schools or parishes to remain open but only takes a loss of a million from one church and a 1/2 a million form another and 4 years before they jump all over a problem and stop the bleeding. The whole organization works on a close the gate after the horse is gone mentality. Must be nice to have that kind of money coming in that a couple million missing here there and everywhere does not warrant much more than and eye brow raise.
zoxim

Naperville, IL

#22 Dec 12, 2007
Reality wrote:
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Most religious people aren't offended at all by you calling us "suckers." Think about what that(not being offended by name callers) might mean?
Oh please, Religious types are the most easily offended, overly sensitive people on the planet. They are constantly whining about "the war on Christmas", not being allowed to force their beliefs in schools, any movie, book or tv show that they even suspect is "anti-Christian" (despite not seeing or reading it) and just in general being professional victims. And that's just the Christians. Tell us how Moslems aren't offended. Even Hindus riot in India when the feel offended. It seems to be the nature of religious people to need to feel persecuted and then wear it on their sleeves.
And suckers? How many times have we read stories about some preacher or priest conning the flock out of big bucks or committing some sexual perversity and the suckers STILL support the guy? There's even one posting here claiming this crook is a victim of the press. Suckers. There's no other word.
"Reality"... LOL.

Since: Oct 07

Chicago

#23 Dec 12, 2007
I grew up in St.Bede's parish on the beautiful Southwest Side. I have seen up close the devastation these corrupt priests bring to a parish. We had 2 child molesters (1 of them did prison time and the other passed away before they caught up with him), and an embezzler.

At times like this it does indeed become difficult to seperate the beauty and good work of the religion from the betrayal of the criminals who enter the priesthood. It doesn't help to say that there are problems in every religion.

The real pain comes from the people who are not religious who use these occasions to point the finger and say "see..religion, and Catholicism in particular, is just a club for weak sickos." It's kind of hard to argue against them.

For me, I'll do what I've done 3 times in the past. I'll think about all the good priests and nuns I've known over the years, truly holy people who have helped me and my family, and I will try to forgive the priests who have failed.
Just Me

Kenosha, WI

#24 Dec 12, 2007
Marlore wrote:
PEOPLE WE MUST REALIZE, THAT CHRUCH PEOPLE ARE HUMAN, AND THEY TOO MAKE MISTAKES. YES PLEASE BELIEVE IT!!!!
Mistakes?!!??!! Sorry, don't buy it. These were not mistakes, they were criminal acts. The archdioseces and each individual parish is a business and should be run as such with full internal controls on finances. I'm not surprised it is happening in 85% of parishes. I came from St. Bede where the pastor embezzeled, kept hookers and his own condo. When on the school board, they could not even account for fund raising money. It was sickening and no one cared because "that would never happen here" so I stepped down. What a crock!! The Catholic church makes it too easy for them to get away with it and the parishoner's misguided faith allows it to perpetuate. As far as Cardinal George, I think that is the same canned letter he sent us too. Bah!!

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