Florissant Post Office: Delivery Delays/Mail Tampering

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Flamingo Park

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Sep 5, 2013
 

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We live in the Flamingo Park subdivision and have experienced some serious issues with our residential Mail Delivery in recent months. For example, some mail arrives to us a month after it was mailed…sometimes it never arrives at all. This has occurred with mail sent locally as well as mail sent to us from out-of-state. This appears to happen mostly with personal correspondence, such as note cards and birthday cards. For the most part, our bills, periodicals and "junk" mail seem to arrive on time.

Mail tampering has also been a concern. Some pieces arriving late have been taped shut or exhibit other signs of tampering. A friend who lives a block away has also reported several instances of extremely late mail with evidence of tampering. Unfortunately, reporting these occurrences to the Florissant Post Office has done no good. Quite frankly, they don’t seem to care.

These problems do not occur every day or even every week, but they occur often enough to realize something is not right. We have never heard of any delays or problems with our outgoing mail. Also, our neighborhood does not have a regular carrier or time of delivery. We have many different mail carriers, and the time that our mail arrives can vary by as much as seven hours.

Anyway, we were just curious if anyone else has experienced late, missing or “tampered-with” mail in the 63031 zip code…particularly in the Flamingo Park subdivision.
Jeff

Vienna, MO

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Sep 5, 2013
 
Have you considered contacting the post office?
Flamingo Park

Saint Louis, MO

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Sep 5, 2013
 
Hi Jeff, we have reported these issues to the Florissant Post Office. Unfortunately, they don't really seem to care. We've even started sending some test pieces of mail through the system to gauge the delivery time and condition of mail received. However, this experiment may take a long time to produce any concrete findings, due to the fact that the problem is relatively sporadic.
David

Florissant, MO

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hardhead

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we are having the same problems,mail tore open and taped back up. very slow delivery and the mailman just throws the packages on the ground. we have a new mailman and he is an idiot and always on the phone. they slurry sealed our street and they kept doing u-turns right in front of our house and screwed the street all up,so now we have to live with it for another 5 years. the post office people don't give a shit about anything, but then again look who they have working there.
chuckel head

Florissant, MO

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Sep 6, 2013
 
my carrier is always on his phone also. i can get other peoples mail almost daily. i even get letters people have put out to be mailed???
hardhead

Florissant, MO

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i'll tel you a true story that happen to a friend of mine and i was there to witness it. my friend was finding his mail in the front yard under buschs and on the ground, sometimes soaking wet. we both had a day off work and was sitting in the living room and up walks the mail lady and she was to lazy to take two steps up the porch to the mail box and just threw the mail at the porch. she never seen us sitting there with the door wide open. he reported her but nothing was ever done. the postal service is full of lazy ass blacks that are to stupid or just lazy to do their jobs. and then they wonder why the post office is going under.i'll tellyou something else,UPS is not far behind.
Florissant Resident

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Sep 6, 2013
 
We almost always get our mail by 10am. Never have problems. We used to have packages scanned delivered, that weren't delivered until the next day, but that stopped years ago.
When we lived on Saint Eugene, service was much more error prone. We got mail with the right address, but wrong street, and other examples of our carrier being illiterate.
postal carrier

Saint Louis, MO

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We have quite a few new hires and a lot of them think it is ok to use the cell phone or blu tooth all day long. We have begged the former post master to ban it because it does nothing but create terrible service and mistakes. I have carried my route for almost 14 years in florissant. yes I occasionally make mistakes too but rarely.

We have a new postmaster in the last couple months and I think he may be more receptive to your complaints about people talking on their phones while delivering. you are correct that we should NEVER do that. unfortunately some of our carriers are more interested in their social lives than keeping their customers happy.

I can also tell you there are many vacant routes with no regulars in florissant. That is also a huge problem with no one to actually know the names and maintain a route. This problem is being fixed right now with sub carriers being made regular in the next few months.

do not be afraid to call and ask to speak with the postmaster, or honestly if you feel your mail has been tampered with call the Postal Inspectors. Letter Carriers who do their job properly do not care if the Inspectors watch them daily because they are doing their jobs and none of us who work hard want to work with people who may be stealing mail
hardhead

Florissant, MO

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Sep 7, 2013
 
i sure hope i'm not stuck with the sub carrier i have now. i watched him damn near get hit by a car wandering across the street while talking on his cell phone. this dunce has come to my door to deliver a packages when i was outside and didn't stop talking on the phone the long enough to sign for it. piss poor service. i'll send everthing fedex.
hardhead

Florissant, MO

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Sep 7, 2013
 
i'll say it again,I HOPE I DON'T GET STUCK WITH THIS CLOWN! you should see how he dress's, looks like he slept in his cloths,dirty unkept,sometimes in a t-shirt,no uniform. whata joke.
postal carrier

Saint Louis, MO

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Sep 8, 2013
 
I can find out who this shit head is but id have to know the street in question. I believe you though. we have some real pieces of work that got hired. I am sorry for the patrons they deliver too
FloMo Mama

Ballwin, MO

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Sep 9, 2013
 
We haven't had any problems with our own mail, but a neighbor about 4 doors down had to go door-to-door looking for an important piece of mail for which he was waiting. He told us that we do not have a regular carrier on our street anymore. I had not noticed. I only actually see the carrier once in awhile. We have, however, had mail delivered to our street number, but it was the wrong street. That has happened at least three times in the past 6 months or so. It was not important mail - just junk mail, but still...
hardhead

Florissant, MO

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Sep 9, 2013
 
yes! i am sorry too. i always mail my letters from home and pay my bills through the mail because i believe people need jobs. now with this going on i don't know if my mail is getting where it's suppose to be going. don't the supervisors see who is there in the morning and how they are dressed. i don't care so much how they dress, but the way the mail is delivered is a joke anymore. i'm glade this came up on this forum as i thought my mail had been looked at and resealed. i don't even really care about them talking on their phone ,but he's gonna get run over.
Pale Dago

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Moved into Flamingo when it was new back in 64. Started out with street side mail boxes. In a year or so we started door to door delivery. We had a carrier by the name of Orvel, and we had him for damn near twenty years. He knew all of us, our kids and the entire neighborhood. He would stop and give you a short conversation if you were out when he came onto your drive and up the walk. He was a true friend, always pleasant, helpful and accurate. He used to do well around the Xmas season, as there was always a greeting card with something in it, from most of the residents, to show how much we appreciated him. We moved to a different house in Flamingo years later, and to our delight we still had Orvel at the new place. It didn't happen often, but there were times when someone mailed to us and inadvertently neglected to put the address, or street number on the envelope, but Orvel knew everyone on his route so well that he knew just where to deliver the mail. That was way back when, in a time when most people cared about their jobs, and did them well. I'm not too sure we should totally blame the employee as there are so many incompetent supervisors or managers in place who should not be. If I had to work for a stupid, overbearing boss, who thought they knew it all, when they don't, I'm not so sure I would give a damn either. Many so called leaders, appointed only because they're connected, or part of a quota system are the problem. I think though, that the carriers union is sort of like a teachers union, where no matter how screwed up the member is, you wont be removing them any time soon because they have an iron clad contract. One day, we will find a really organized company like FedEx, or UPS, stepping up to take over the job of the postal service, and then we will see an efficiently run operation. They would kick the bloated contract to the curb, hire people who care and really want to work, institute a new set of rules, and then you will see a well run operation. Can't happen soon enough. Post office used to be one of those jobs "To die for". Years ago a guy would do all his prep work, hit the bricks, and if he was good enough to get his eight hour job done in six hours, he went home and got paid for eight hours. I don't have a problem with that, as long as the work was done well. This is done all the time with govt contracts. Bid twelve months to build a bridge, get it done in ten months and you get a big bonus, works for me. But you see, in that era we had an influx of time study college boys who decided the P O could squeeze more out of a guy by screwing with the worker, thus it all started to hit the skids, and so today, here we are. For what it's worth, the service out here in St Chuck sucks as well. We never see the same person, never get the mail anywhere near the same time, get the mail in various states of poor condition. I by the way stopped giving a Xmas gift to the carrier years ago. Who should you reward when you never have the same person? Is poor service and damaged goods worthy of a gift? Oh well, one day the USPO will be but a memory of what once was.
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Pale Dago wrote:
Moved into Flamingo when it was new back in 64. Started out with street side mail boxes. In a year or so we started door to door delivery. We had a carrier by the name of Orvel, and we had him for damn near twenty years. He knew all of us, our kids and the entire neighborhood. He would stop and give you a short conversation if you were out when he came onto your drive and up the walk. He was a true friend, always pleasant, helpful and accurate. He used to do well around the Xmas season, as there was always a greeting card with something in it, from most of the residents, to show how much we appreciated him. We moved to a different house in Flamingo years later, and to our delight we still had Orvel at the new place. It didn't happen often, but there were times when someone mailed to us and inadvertently neglected to put the address, or street number on the envelope, but Orvel knew everyone on his route so well that he knew just where to deliver the mail. That was way back when, in a time when most people cared about their jobs, and did them well. I'm not too sure we should totally blame the employee as there are so many incompetent supervisors or managers in place who should not be. If I had to work for a stupid, overbearing boss, who thought they knew it all, when they don't, I'm not so sure I would give a damn either. Many so called leaders, appointed only because they're connected, or part of a quota system are the problem. I think though, that the carriers union is sort of like a teachers union, where no matter how screwed up the member is, you wont be removing them any time soon because they have an iron clad contract. One day, we will find a really organized company like FedEx, or UPS, stepping up to take over the job of the postal service, and then we will see an efficiently run operation. They would kick the bloated contract to the curb, hire people who care and really want to work, institute a new set of rules, and then you will see a well run operation. Can't happen soon enough. Post office used to be one of those jobs "To die for". Years ago a guy would do all his prep work, hit the bricks, and if he was good enough to get his eight hour job done in six hours, he went home and got paid for eight hours. I don't have a problem with that, as long as the work was done well. This is done all the time with govt contracts. Bid twelve months to build a bridge, get it done in ten months and you get a big bonus, works for me. But you see, in that era we had an influx of time study college boys who decided the P O could squeeze more out of a guy by screwing with the worker, thus it all started to hit the skids, and so today, here we are. For what it's worth, the service out here in St Chuck sucks as well. We never see the same person, never get the mail anywhere near the same time, get the mail in various states of poor condition. I by the way stopped giving a Xmas gift to the carrier years ago. Who should you reward when you never have the same person? Is poor service and damaged goods worthy of a gift? Oh well, one day the USPO will be but a memory of what once was.
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FloMo Mama

Saint Louis, MO

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Sep 13, 2013
 
Well, I knew because I posted earlier on this thread that it was gonna happen...lol

Just got what looks like a wedding invitation for someone whose name is not even close to ours, street name not even remotely close (but number is the same) and get this - the city is Ballwin, MO with a zip code of 63021...

If I just drop this in a mailbox or put back on my mailbox for Monday, since it's already been postmarked, won't it be returned to sender? Sorry, I'm not driving to Ballwin to get this to the correct person. And the carrier is long gone now.
postal carrier

Saint Louis, MO

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Sep 13, 2013
 
just put it back out on the mailbox. take a pen or marker and scratch through the printed on barcode. most of the mis sent mail is machine run although the carriers are supposed to look at the street name and house name. whether it's postmarked or not it will get re run through the system. if you don't scratch out the barcode on the bottom most likely you will get it back tomorrow re run through the sorting machine from the same moron who delivered it today. i'm not excusing them just saying mistakes do happen sometimes
FloMo Mama

Saint Louis, MO

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Sep 15, 2013
 
I contacted the woman it was addressed to on FB (Found her on first try - miracles never cease! LOL) She thought it was just a thank you note rather than an invite. I will scratch out the barcode and drop in a public mailbox. Thanks.
hardhead

Florissant, MO

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Sep 17, 2013
 
my cell phone bill is missing right now and i'll have to call them and track it down. we get the wrong mail all the time and have been for years. i just drop it in the mail box at the post office.

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