Hazelwood School District

Since: Aug 10

North County

#723 Aug 18, 2010
redneck_politics wrote:
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It irritates me when people fail to label something objectively. There is no "education" crisis in this country. A free education up to grade 12 is provided to every child in this country. All the child has to do is actually go to school and participate in their academic pursuits.

Since I believe in "truth in labeling", I move to have the name of this piece changed to "PARENT Crisis in This Country".
BINGO!!!!!!!! Parents have to meet the teachers halfway!! Most of the students who don't do well in USA schools have poor parenting/guidance etc...at least from what I've seen!!!
control

Florissant, MO

#724 Aug 21, 2010
clueless, clueless people.

Since: Mar 10

Florissant, MO

#725 Aug 21, 2010
control wrote:
clueless, clueless people.
This is tantamount to the phrase "I'm just sayin'...". Why is it that whenever someone accuses another of being clueless, they never seem to be able to qualify the label, and nothing intelligent ever follows that statement?

The forum is open for you to give us all a clue whenever you so desire. The fact that you didn't (and won't I'm certain) means that you have no intelligent rebuttal to anything; you simply want to reject the reality that has been presented so you can take the liberty of substituting your own.
school dist const co

Saint Louis, MO

#726 Oct 10, 2010
The teachers and the unions get VERY involved in getting their puppet School board elected so that most boards do whatever the unions bosses and the teachers think they can get away with.

Sweet deal is not adequate to describe the needless construction projects the school district gives to union contractors.
Have you looked at where your property taxes are going? Well there is a HSD tax that we approved for so many years and guess what they want to keep taxing us on that forever and they need our permission.

They are asking us suckers to keep taxing the sh-t our of ourselves when they can hardly keep their good school status. They are in business to keep union only labor employed and they need to keep taxing the cr-p out of us to keep building stuff. Oh don't worry about not having any books etc for the students, doesn't that new building look great?
money

Florissant, MO

#727 Oct 10, 2010
Thank you! Finally someone besides me gets it around here.

If you know anyone that lives in, oh let'd just take creve coeur for example...the home owners in that area pay very little more than we do in property taxes that hazelwood school district gets most of. We should be outrages that they are even thinking about wanting to tax us MORE.

WAKE UP VOTERS!! Don't give them one more red cent!
PoorFeller

Saint Louis, MO

#728 Oct 13, 2010
Pethead wrote:
I think most school districts over spend and misappropriate funds. But they do it legally. The first thing the you hear politician's mouth is how money should go to the schools. Not that I don't agree money should be spent, it ought to be spent more wisely.
When the lottery was being proposed, a portion of the revenue was to be allocated to schools. Then when the casinos were proposed, there was a portion of the revenue to go for schools. What happened is the legislators found a loophole and cut the state's portion of funding. Now the same legislators are trying to take revenue from the red light cameras and apply it to the schools. In the mean time we have a reassessment of our property taxes in the metropolitan St. Louis area. Increased taxes means more revenue for the schools once again.
How do school districts handle all this income? They spend money on some things that I'm sure would be considered a waste of taxpayers dollars if it was a municipal government spending the same way school districts do. Oh and I forgot, every election that has a polling place in a school gets paid to allocate the space to hold an election. This doesn't include bond issues. The bond issues that gripe me are the ones that school districts say will not increase our taxes. Yet they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to pass these bond issues. Does that make sense?
The time of the year when you can see our school districts playing the money game is at the end of the year. If a school district has X amount of dollars in their fiscal budget and they have money left, what do they do? They find ways to spend it so they won't have their budget reduced the following year. Since the next fiscal budget is based on what they spent in the previous years budget. Missouri needs to work with budgeting school districts to keep unnecessary spending at a minimum. One way would be to not penalize a school district for spending under budget without the fear of having their budgets cut the next year.
I have question. This is a supposedly "no tax increase bond issue." I find it hard to believe that the Hazelwood School District can pay off the bonds and interest without raising taxes. My question is, exactly how long will it take before they threaten to cut off children's activities, lay off non-essential (read workers) personnel, or cut back other services without an absolutely necessary tax increase?

I am still waiting to see my new property assessment and tax bill since homes in my community have dropped at least 30% since the last assessment. And guess what? I live in Hazelwood where there are many Hazelwood Schools, a middle school, and a high school. I agree with your assessment of probable waste and will add to it. It's not probable, it's definite.
parenting

Florissant, MO

#729 Oct 13, 2010
Just wait, your taxes will stay the same even though your home value dropped by 30%. Who wants to talk about that nightmare? People losing their jobs all around and hazelwood just keeps putting their hand out.

They always say its a no tax increase bond issue. Which is a lie if you read the fine print. We will end up paying for it in some way.

“I am a Pit Bull ”

Since: Aug 08

on the pantleg of opportunity

#730 Oct 13, 2010
Back in 2008 when the reassessment of property values declined, Hazelwood School District increased their tax rate to keep their tax income the same or higher. They are protected by state law which permits them to increase the tax rate when property assessments drop.

According to HSD this is what they have to say about where they get their money.

"72 percent of HSD’s assessed value is in residential real estate and regular personal property, rather than commercial property and manufacturing equipment. Commercial tax revenue—while only 28 percent of the District’s assessed valuation – is significantly reduced by TIFs and other tax abatements."

To all the people who supports TIF's and other commercial tax incentives, these freebies for commercial property affects a community in more than a higher sales tax for TIF projects.

I wonder what would happen if this Prop H fails on the Phase III of Hazelwood First?

I am aware that sometimes when a city or county says that a bond issue won't result in a tax increase, in essence what they are saying is that a bond is close to maturity and if a new bond issue is passed then there is no increase in taxes. But what they don't say is that when a bond is satisfied and paid in full, that the tax rate would drop back to the original tax rate before the bond was voted on and issued. Continuing a bond issue is just a way of keeping the tax rate at the current rate.

So if Prop H fails, would our taxes be reduced to the rate prior to Phase I inception?

For further info on HSD's explanation of their tax rates see this link.
http://www.hazelwoodschools.org/News/Pages/HS...

An informed vote is a wise vote.
parenting

Florissant, MO

#731 Oct 14, 2010
We could only HOPE that the tax rate would be reduced to the prior rate!

This district is failing so many families and does not deserve what they get now!
So Sad

Saint Louis, MO

#732 Oct 20, 2010
I am voting NO on prop H. I feel that with the uncertainty of assessed home values and an unstable municipal bond market coupled with HSDs lack of itemized prioritization of infrastructure improvements (at least from public viewing) gives pause to a new bond initiative. I think this is a gift horse for the trade unions (who understandably would like to see their brothers back to work) in return for some favors down the line to certain unnamed persons, but not at my extra expense. Pethead, I agree that there is no such thing as a free lunch. There are major risks involved with bond defaults.

See the following article:
Municipal bonds aren’t quite so alluring
http://omaha.com/article/20100921/MONEY/70921...

Since: Mar 10

Florissant, MO

#733 Oct 20, 2010
<sarcasm>But...it's for the kids!</sarcasm>

Is there anything in the bag the Man Behind the Curtain has labeled "Hazelwood First Phase III" that will provide all of the high school students with textbooks?

If a mechanic doesn't fix your car, you don't keep taking it back to him (and paying him on each subsequent return) in the hopes that if you pay enough money eventually the car will end up fixed. Unfortunately, that is exactly the mentality that HSD asks us to adopt every election. I believe that public education is necessary, and I don't even mind paying taxes for it, but I do take issue with consistently paying money for something that is not being sufficiently provided, and then being told election cycle after election cycle that if I just keep paying more money, eventually I will get what I was told I was paying for to begin with.

Saying a bond issue doesn't increase taxes is akin to saying that a large purchase on a credit card will not impact your savings account.
high taxes

Saint Louis, MO

#734 Dec 14, 2010
County property values drop, but taxes continue to rise

Mark Behlmann has been on the board of the Hazelwood School District for 14 years.

In April, the board approved a contract giving teachers and staff a 3 percent raise for the 2010-11 school year. That followed a 4 percent raise for Hazelwood teachers and staff last year.

"What Rebore said is very accurate," Behlmann said. "There is a very close-knit relationship between school board members and teachers; it's like family."

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/arti...
fantastic

Saint Louis, MO

#735 Dec 14, 2010
Fantastic news! Just keep on voting for the bond issues!

It would be different if kids were actually getting an education in the district. SO not the case!
Sure

Florissant, MO

#736 Dec 14, 2010
Well Mark has certainty proved he can be mayor and run the City of Florissant.
NEWS

Saint Louis, MO

#737 Dec 15, 2010
Tell the school the teachers are employees, not your family, what bullshit. Plus thanks for the four per cent tax increase.
NO MORE TAXES

Saint Louis, MO

#738 Dec 16, 2010
I HAVE ALL THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS I NEED.
fantastic

Saint Louis, MO

#739 Dec 16, 2010
Mark hasn't proved sh1t to me! I also have all the friends and family I need. Highway robery, that is what this is.
Concerned Parent

Baltimore, MD

#740 Aug 13, 2012
My son was bullied at Hazelwood Central Middle. He was bullied at school and on the bus. He started walking almost 10 blocks to school and from school to avoid the bullies on the bus. Once I found out, i reported it to the 7th grade principal, she saw the video on the bus that showed other kids hitting my son. Nothing was ever done about it. After that I took him out of the Hazelwood School District, he is afraid he will see the same kids at Hazelwood Central High School which i hear is worse. My younger son I requested an intra district transfer for because a teacher in kindergarten called him dumb and stupid. He is in the 5th grade and it still affects his self esteem. We later found out he was ADHD not stupid and dumb. He was taken out of the Hazelwood Schools but due to finances and my other son attending a private High School, I had to put him back in Hazelwood School District. My request is before the school board tomorrow. Has anyone received an intra district transfer before, and what was considered a valid reason. My son has had to have continued counseling over this issue.
self defense

Haslet, TX

#741 Aug 13, 2012
Concerned Parent wrote:
My son was bullied at Hazelwood Central Middle. He was bullied at school and on the bus. He started walking almost 10 blocks to school and from school to avoid the bullies on the bus. Once I found out, i reported it to the 7th grade principal, she saw the video on the bus that showed other kids hitting my son. Nothing was ever done about it. After that I took him out of the Hazelwood School District, he is afraid he will see the same kids at Hazelwood Central High School which i hear is worse. My younger son I requested an intra district transfer for because a teacher in kindergarten called him dumb and stupid. He is in the 5th grade and it still affects his self esteem. We later found out he was ADHD not stupid and dumb. He was taken out of the Hazelwood Schools but due to finances and my other son attending a private High School, I had to put him back in Hazelwood School District. My request is before the school board tomorrow. Has anyone received an intra district transfer before, and what was considered a valid reason. My son has had to have continued counseling over this issue.
Get your son a gun
toughen up

Haslet, TX

#742 Aug 13, 2012
Concerned Parent wrote:
My son was bullied at Hazelwood Central Middle. He was bullied at school and on the bus. He started walking almost 10 blocks to school and from school to avoid the bullies on the bus. Once I found out, i reported it to the 7th grade principal, she saw the video on the bus that showed other kids hitting my son. Nothing was ever done about it. After that I took him out of the Hazelwood School District, he is afraid he will see the same kids at Hazelwood Central High School which i hear is worse. My younger son I requested an intra district transfer for because a teacher in kindergarten called him dumb and stupid. He is in the 5th grade and it still affects his self esteem. We later found out he was ADHD not stupid and dumb. He was taken out of the Hazelwood Schools but due to finances and my other son attending a private High School, I had to put him back in Hazelwood School District. My request is before the school board tomorrow. Has anyone received an intra district transfer before, and what was considered a valid reason. My son has had to have continued counseling over this issue.
Either toughen up or home school.

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