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#1 Nov 12, 2009
Anybody know if there is an ordinance in Florissant regarding blowing leaves into the street? A guy on Harrison/St. jacques has his kid blow the leaves from the yard out into Harrison. They were a good 10" deep on Harrison and St. Jacques before traffic smashed them and blew them in everyone elses yards. Whats with people??
taxpayer

Moscow Mills, MO

#2 Nov 12, 2009
In Awe wrote:
Anybody know if there is an ordinance in Florissant regarding blowing leaves into the street? A guy on Harrison/St. jacques has his kid blow the leaves from the yard out into Harrison. They were a good 10" deep on Harrison and St. Jacques before traffic smashed them and blew them in everyone elses yards. Whats with people??
Yes
In the Know

Sugar Land, TX

#3 Nov 12, 2009
In Awe wrote:
Anybody know if there is an ordinance in Florissant regarding blowing leaves into the street? A guy on Harrison/St. jacques has his kid blow the leaves from the yard out into Harrison. They were a good 10" deep on Harrison and St. Jacques before traffic smashed them and blew them in everyone elses yards. Whats with people??
Yes there is an ordinace against this. There is also an ordinance against putting them in the sewers. Call the Police.
What if

Saint Louis, MO

#4 Nov 12, 2009
I have seen a lot of people in the area piling their leaves by the street.
Piles of leaves at the curb is common in west county where some municipalities have leaf pick-up.

Since we do not have this service I am running under the assumption that some of these people are planning to contract with a private company for a similar service.

If you know these neighbors you could just talk to them. If you do not know them you may consider asking them if they are getting a leaf pick-up by a private company. You could use it as a premise to find out if that is their plan or if they are actually breaking the law thinking they won't get caught.

If they say they are not getting a pick-up you could just mention that you heard the police and MSD are driving around looking for people that are not disposing of leaves properly in street or sewers.

A friendly conversation may build a better relationship with a neighbor.

BTW: Does anyone know the name or contact info for companies that provide leaf pick-up?

I could probably get several neighbors on board a plan to get one of these companies to pick up all of our leaves at one time.
truth be told

Florissant, MO

#5 Nov 12, 2009
If the truth be told I'm surprised more people aren't blowing their leaves into the street. Simply because there is a limit that the new trash company will pick up even if you purchase yard waste and a dumpster from them.

Welcome to the wonderful city of Florissant where you are monitored by how many leaves you dispose of.

Whats next; are they going to monitor how much electricity we use in our own homes?
DRM

Saint Louis, MO

#6 Nov 12, 2009
truth be told wrote:
If the truth be told I'm surprised more people aren't blowing their leaves into the street. Simply because there is a limit that the new trash company will pick up even if you purchase yard waste and a dumpster from them.
Welcome to the wonderful city of Florissant where you are monitored by how many leaves you dispose of.
Whats next; are they going to monitor how much electricity we use in our own homes?
I would be surprised if a lot of people started blowing leaves into the street because I think most people have enough "good sense" to solve the leaf problem in a more rational way.
I just put out 12 bags of leaves this week and the took them all. People next door did the same. No problems. I guess it depends on the drivers.

The City doesn't monitor how many leaves you get rid of but they do not want you doing anything with them like pushing them in the street or sewers. Is that a problem for you? I doubt you would want you next door neighbor dumping his leaves over the fence into your yard, why would it be okay for people to put them in the street?

I am as critical of this current administration at City Hall as any other critic but there is a difference between being critical and just whining about things that are not real problems. If you whine about things that are not real you do nothing but muddy of the waters in the discussion about the REAL problems in the City.

In case you haven't noticed, there is this device on the side of your house called an "electric meter". The electric company, Ameren UE, uses it to "monitor" your electricity use in your home. The city doesn't care about that use other than any sale tax it might generate.
truth be told

Florissant, MO

#7 Nov 12, 2009
I think I'll just stop paying for the yard waste and their container and just let the leaves blow away on their own like some of my other neighbors do.

Thats great they picked up all your leaves but its not the case in my neighborhood. Last week we had their dumpster and seven bags and they left the dumpster full of leaves. Maybe I should go dump them on Bob's lawn...
Ecolawn

Saint Louis, MO

#8 Nov 12, 2009
truth be told wrote:
I think I'll just stop paying for the yard waste and their container and just let the leaves blow away on their own like some of my other neighbors do.
Thats great they picked up all your leaves but its not the case in my neighborhood. Last week we had their dumpster and seven bags and they left the dumpster full of leaves. Maybe I should go dump them on Bob's lawn...
It is a little effort but you can pile up the leaves and run the lawn mower over them until they are finely chopped. Then take the resulting finely chopped mulch and put it around your trees and shrubs. If you mix in a little soil it will be pretty much decomposed into dark loamy soil by late spring. If you have a vegetable garden just put the leaf mulch on top and mix in some soil. Next spring just till it in when you turn over the garden.
I wouldn't advise dumping them on the mayors lawn. Me thinks he may object.
cut down the trees

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#9 Nov 12, 2009
cut down all those trees
break it down

Florissant, MO

#10 Nov 12, 2009
Oh don't get me started on leaves. I have one tree but seem to always be picking up the leaves from my wonderful neighbors trees.
LoneWolf

Kansas City, MO

#11 Nov 12, 2009
Listen to >>Ecolawn<< they speaketh the truth.

>>truth be told<< Whats next; are they going to monitor how much electricity we use in our own homes?

Actually the DEA monitors the use of electricity because people growing marijuana in their basements use a LOT of it.
question

United States

#12 Nov 12, 2009
Can't I just run the mulching mower over the leaves and let them lay where ever? It won't look pretty but does it hurt anything? I hate the idea of raking. I have one pear tree. The rest of the leaves are donations from neighbors. The real problem may be oak leaves from 3 monster trees. Any advice?
Ecolawn

Saint Louis, MO

#13 Nov 13, 2009
We may not appreciate the leaves from neighbors trees but those trees are important to keeping the whole neighborhood cooler and also to manage rain runoff. There are many other benefits from trees. Leave raking is a lot of work each fall but it is good exercise.
Some people prefer blowers and they do have some advantages over rakes. Be sure to wear eye and ear protection since the blowers throw small debris in the air and the sound levels are often too loud and can cause ear damage.
If you use a special mulching blade on your lawn mower you can mulch leaves on the lawn if there are not too many. But it would be advisable with deep leaves. Deep leaves or large volumes of leaves should be piled up and mulched. Then place the mulch in areas that do not have grass or where you don't want grass to grow.
Composting is one of the best ways top deal with them if you have the space and time. The leaves and yard waste that you put at the curb are often composted and sold back to people in bags of potting soil or composted mulch for gardens and planting beds. There is a large facility at 67 and 367 that does composting.
Ecolawn

Saint Louis, MO

#14 Nov 13, 2009
One more thing. I have seen quite a bit of "tar spot" on the maples this year. It looks like the name implies, black spots of varying sizes often the size of of a dime. It is more or less harmless but can be a problem at times with some trees.
More info:
http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/FactSheets/tar...
Weather can be a factor in tar spot and so can leaf disposal.
B Young Mowerman

Saint Louis, MO

#15 Nov 13, 2009
I cut a lot of grass for neighbors and family. after the big leaf clean up there always seem to be some extra leaves a week of so later. I cut the grass one last time and lower the wheels a little more than the usual tall grass setting.
After I make a couple passes around the perimeter I make a pass down the middle of the yard and then I cut back and forth in the middle. On each pass I keep aiming the discharge back onto the uncut grass on either side of the cut area in the center that gets wider and wider with each pass.
Eventually the remaining leaves get pretty mulched up and mixed with grass. When I am done all the mulched leaves and grass clippings are up against the side fences.
In some yards I just leave the mulch there at the base of the fence and it helps keep the grass short along the fence in the spring. In some yards I rake it up and bag it.
It works pretty good and is easier than raking plus the grass get one nice short final cut for the season and looks good.
focus

United States

#16 Nov 13, 2009
I need to start reading these headings closer. I thought this one was 'Bowling Leagues'
question

Fenton, MO

#17 Nov 13, 2009
Thanks for the advice. I am going to mulch it up and see what it looks like on the lawn. I can rake up any really clumpy spots. I also like the idea of putting it along the fence!
pele

Florissant, MO

#18 Nov 21, 2009
break it down wrote:
Oh don't get me started on leaves. I have one tree but seem to always be picking up the leaves from my wonderful neighbors trees.
i guess that is your neighbor's fault?
trash man

United States

#19 Nov 21, 2009
truth be told wrote:
If the truth be told I'm surprised more people aren't blowing their leaves into the street. Simply because there is a limit that the new trash company will pick up even if you purchase yard waste and a dumpster from them.
Welcome to the wonderful city of Florissant where you are monitored by how many leaves you dispose of.
Whats next; are they going to monitor how much electricity we use in our own homes?
Meridian will pick up as many bags or containers of leaves that you want. BUT....there is a maximum you can put out at one time for the cheap price you are paying. They charge $2 a bag for more than 6 bags on one pick up, and all you have to do is call them. What more do you want for $8 a month? Every hauler has a limit to the amount you can put out. If you want unlimited, we would all end up paying much more a month.

6 bags a week is enough for me. If you mulch them first, you can get 4-5 times more in a bag.
gedda grip

Florissant, MO

#20 Nov 21, 2009
I figure $8 a month x 12 plus the cost of the tote is well worth them taking as many leaves as you put out there.

Thats the difference in people, we all think different.

If I pay all all year for a service that doesn't meet my expectations I will not keep that service.

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