Kate

United States

#1 Mar 1, 2008
I am trying to locate a place that offers smoke-free bingo games. So far, every place has offers "no smoking," but it is in fact just a corner for non-smokers. The smoke still permeates.

Any suggestions?
Name-O

Saint Louis, MO

#2 Mar 1, 2008
Good Luck!!! I think you would be better off lobbying in Jeff City to have all public smoking banned in the state. Bingo's go under when they don't let the people smoke.
tobacco lobbyist

United States

#3 Mar 1, 2008
Kate wrote:
I am trying to locate a place that offers smoke-free bingo games. So far, every place has offers "no smoking," but it is in fact just a corner for non-smokers. The smoke still permeates.
Any suggestions?
yes.....stay home.
Nick O Teand

Saint Louis, MO

#4 Mar 2, 2008
They stopped indoor tobacco use in Illinois recently. I had been frequenting a couple bars over there before the ban. I have been over a few times since and haven'y seenany difference in the attendance other than some of the people get up occasionally and step outside for a few minutes.

The always argument comes down a few statements.

Smoker: "I have the right to smoke." (True.)

Non-smoker: "I have the right to NOT have my body and clothing permeated or damaged by smoke." (True.)

Smoker: "Don't go to places where they let people smoke."

Non-smoker: "I get the choice to go or not go. Smokers can go either way but only have to step outside occasionally if there is an indoor smoking ban. Gee, thanks for the options."

The purpose of a bar is to drink and socialize. Both can be done with or without smoke. But it is more pleasant for smokers with smoking allowed and more pleasant for non-smoker without.

The purpose of a restaurant is to eat and drink. Both can be done with or without smoke. But it is more pleasant for smokers with and more pleasant for non-smoker without.

The economic claims I hear about business losses due to smoking bans sound questionable.
Some facts:
- Smokers claim businesses lose customers.
- Some businesses claim they will lose customers.
- Smokers are a minority, close to 1 in 4 in Missouri, closer to 1 in 5 across the nation.(20-25%)
- Many non-smokers refuse to go to bars and some restaurants because of the smoke.
- The non-smoking section of most restaurants is most often larger than the smoking section and you typically have longer waits to get into the non-smoking section than the smoking section.
- Smoke increases maintenance costs for businesses in terms of providing for smokers needs, extra cleaning and extra damage to fixtures and facilities.
- Some bars and restaurants do not allow pipe or cigar smoking because customers might "complain about the smell interferring with their enjoyment of the establishment.

What if I walked into a bar with an aerosol can of "Ripe Manure Smell" and started spraying it around. People would likely complain about the smell and the management might ask me to stop. Logically, even though I am in the minority, I shopuld be able to keep spraying because I can claim it enhances my enjoyment.

I had to go see doctor one day. His office was on the 5th floor. At the ground floor, I and a fellow stepped into the elevator. The doors closed and I noticed this guy just reeked of cigarette smoke. On the second floor, a woman gets in whose perfume is over the top strong. She exits at floor 3 and the guys says, "Someone ought to tell her how bad that much perfume smells." I was trying to think of how to reply when the doors opened 5 and I stepped out.
McNorth Grad

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Mar 2, 2008
A non-smoking section of a restaurant is like a "non-peeing" section of a pool. It's still going to get to you...

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