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Common Resident

Blue Springs, MO

#1 Sep 10, 2008
Has anyone in the area of Rosetta/Thompson/Keeven/Florla nd etc... noticed the increase of teenage assaults going on? I have been notified of three assualts in the last two weeks. Unfortunately all of the victims are afraid to call the police due to retaliation. I called the police dispatcher and was told unless "I had a victim with me, it was not an incident". This was after I explained I saw a large group of teenagers hanging out at the Gundaker Apt. complex where there have been several incidents in the last the three months.(Graffiti, peace disturbances, etc...) Unfortunately these teenagers were black and the victims were white. One officer told me it "was a Hazelwood School Problem" and should be dealt with at the school. What??? A lot of individuals are saying just don't go near that area because the "blacks" will hit anyone that is "white". Another officer told me "these kids, these days, what are you going to do?" I guess the only answer is to move...Isn't that sad?
Mixed Up

United States

#2 Sep 10, 2008
Common Resident wrote:
Has anyone in the area of Rosetta/Thompson/Keeven/Florla nd etc... noticed the increase of teenage assaults going on? I have been notified of three assualts in the last two weeks. Unfortunately all of the victims are afraid to call the police due to retaliation. I called the police dispatcher and was told unless "I had a victim with me, it was not an incident". This was after I explained I saw a large group of teenagers hanging out at the Gundaker Apt. complex where there have been several incidents in the last the three months.(Graffiti, peace disturbances, etc...) Unfortunately these teenagers were black and the victims were white. One officer told me it "was a Hazelwood School Problem" and should be dealt with at the school. What??? A lot of individuals are saying just don't go near that area because the "blacks" will hit anyone that is "white". Another officer told me "these kids, these days, what are you going to do?" I guess the only answer is to move...Isn't that sad?
Yeah Riiight.
Concerned

Saint Louis, MO

#3 Sep 11, 2008
Common Resident

After the gang attack at Applebee's Restaurant last night in Florissant where innocent diners were injured, maybe the police will take a longer look at the gang problems in your neighborhood or at least recognize the problem.
Missy

Florissant, MO

#4 Sep 11, 2008
What happened at Applebees exactly ?
Concerned

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Sep 11, 2008
Missy:

This is the Fox 2 report on the incident.....

"(KTVI - myFOXstl.com )-- A fist fight erupts inside of an Applebees restaurant and leaves several people injured.

A group of young men walked into the restaurant around 9:45pm Tuesday and began punching innocent diners until they found the person they were looking for.

The group beat up their intended target, then walked out the front door.

Police tell FOX 2 News that the fracas stemmed from a fight earlier in the day at McCluer North High School. Police also believe they know who they are looking for."

Makes you think twice about eating out at a restaurant on Lindbergh....
jmr

Evansville, IN

#6 Sep 11, 2008
When is the Mayor up for re-election?
Concerned

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Sep 11, 2008
An update this morning on Fox News Channel 2 reports that several dozen gang members were involved in the attack at Applebee's
flo resident

Florissant, MO

#8 Sep 11, 2008
I didn't hear anything said about a gang, just a group of teens from McNorth.

I live by those apartments and if anything were to happen to my kids, the thugs better watch the hell out.
Truther

United States

#9 Sep 11, 2008
And where the hell were the police? The Florissant Police station is less than a mile from Applebee's and surely some were out on patrol when this thuggery happened. How hard would it be to find a gang of black or white thugs roaming the wide open spaces around the restaurant? If in cars surely someone in the restaurant would have a description/license plate numbers. Either the Florissant Police are totally incompetent or don't care about protecting citizens. One more reason to move out of this gang infested area.
NeighborWatching

Ballwin, MO

#10 Sep 11, 2008
I am sickened by what happened at Appleby's. We need to take a stand and try and get Florissant back. I have contacted the Mayor and my city council ward person.
We need to go to the next City Council Meeting in person. Not be at home watching it from our locked up houses.
I will be there and I hope we pack the room for standing room only. Please take a stand, and fight back against these getto gangsters.
went west

Troy, MO

#11 Sep 11, 2008
Common Resident wrote:
I guess the only answer is to move...Isn't that sad?
Thousands of other people have done just that.
Concerned

Saint Louis, MO

#12 Sep 11, 2008
flo resident

You call them "just a group of teens".

I call several dozen thugs attacking innocent diners at an upscale restaurant on Lindbergh a gang.

Fox 2 reports that one of the innocent victims was hurt so bad, she had to be rushed to a local hospital.

I guess the police may share your outlook of "its nothing more than kids having fun".

Maybe that's part of the problem.

I hope that the several dozen 'kids having fun" are locked in jail by sunset tonight.

Don't hold your breathe.

It will be interesting to see if the police will take full and complete action after the attack or just make the "Kids having fun" promise not to do it again.
Truther

United States

#13 Sep 11, 2008
Hate to say it, but Florissant is a lost cause. There are too many of them here now and there is no way to turn this thing around. Florissant has become gang infested and the Florissant police are either taking a "hands off" approach or are totally incompetent as demonstrated by this incident at Applebee's. Best strategy is to pack up and let them have it.

“Concerned for ward 8”

Since: Nov 07

Florissant

#14 Sep 11, 2008
NeighborWatching wrote:
I am sickened by what happened at Appleby's. We need to take a stand and try and get Florissant back. I have contacted the Mayor and my city council ward person.
We need to go to the next City Council Meeting in person. Not be at home watching it from our locked up houses.
I will be there and I hope we pack the room for standing room only. Please take a stand, and fight back against these getto gangsters.
I will be there too, and I intend to use my three minutes, and maybe even demand more. And that bullshit about it not being a question and answer session is going to change. If I stand up there and demand answers and put up a protest, who will support me? Who will come up front and stand by me and demand answers? This is something that needs to be thrown into the mayors face over and over again. Just like when a puppy pisses on the carpet you rub its face in it, we need to all rub this into the mayors face. Let him know we are NOT happy and things BETTER CHANGE NOW!
Who's with me?
went west

Troy, MO

#15 Sep 11, 2008
Ward8 wrote:
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I will be there too, and I intend to use my three minutes, and maybe even demand more. And that bullshit about it not being a question and answer session is going to change. If I stand up there and demand answers and put up a protest, who will support me? Who will come up front and stand by me and demand answers? This is something that needs to be thrown into the mayors face over and over again. Just like when a puppy pisses on the carpet you rub its face in it, we need to all rub this into the mayors face. Let him know we are NOT happy and things BETTER CHANGE NOW!
Who's with me?
Im with you. Ive got a for sale by owner sign I'll loan you.
concerned parent

Columbia, MO

#16 Sep 11, 2008
the police are handling this case. Yes, they responded as soon as they were called. Yes, I assume the group got in a car, that was probably parked around back, so no one could see it. If it stemmed from a fight at McCluer North, I am sure the school and the SRO from the department are working together to find the perps responsible. Yes, I'm sure once caught they will all be charged.
Other then if an officer had been sitting on the lot/inside applebees, how else do you think they could have caught them, if no one saw thier car???
Its called an investigation, some times it takes a day or two to round up all the participants....
Concerned

Saint Louis, MO

#17 Sep 11, 2008
Concerned for ward 8:

When is the next City Council Meeting?

Where are the meetings held?

Thanks
Truther

United States

#18 Sep 11, 2008
What doesn't make sense to me is the fact that Mayor Lowery is a law and order type of guy yet crime is totally out of control, the police are holding back, and crime reports are hidden or minimized. What is going on here? It just doesn't add up. Is the Mayor afraid of offending the black community or possible increased racial tension? I do know that if Mayor Eagen was alive and in charge this would not be happening in his Florissant.

“Concerned for ward 8”

Since: Nov 07

Florissant

#19 Sep 11, 2008
Council Meeting is Monday night at 8pm. Be there early if you want to speak, and dont expect any kind of response imediately after you make your remarks.
The mayor wont say much that isnt bullshit. He'll promise they are going to catch these people and bring them to justice. Then he'll make up a bunch of crap that he and the police department are doing to prevent crime and make a bunch more promises he cant keep.
The key is to trap him in the lies he's already told. Why is Andy Q still in his bed? Where are all these cameras promised? Why did we only hire two new officers when we need at least 5? What happened to NO GANG ACTIVITY in Florissant? So on and so on.
Somebody needs to confront this lying bastard and make him wet his pants.
Concerned

Saint Louis, MO

#20 Sep 11, 2008
To Ward 8

You wrote "Council Meeting is Monday night at 8pm."

Where are the meetings held?

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