Exclusive: Grandparents Arrested, Thr...

Exclusive: Grandparents Arrested, Three Others Sought in Wal-Mart Kidnapping Scheme

There are 28 comments on the WHNT News 19 story from Oct 5, 2009, titled Exclusive: Grandparents Arrested, Three Others Sought in Wal-Mart Kidnapping Scheme. In it, WHNT News 19 reports that:

Police are seeking the identity of this man and woman allegedly involved in the kidnapping of a three-year-old boy from Walmart in Florence.

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lynne

Pell City, AL

#1 Oct 5, 2009
Wal Mart is so great to have it all on film.
faye

United States

#2 Oct 5, 2009
You know there are some really mean sick people out there.I hope that they all are caught and brought to trial.We need to start making people pay for their crimes a lot sooner than they do. Not sitting on death row for years while the families of the victims suffer more each day.
Ada

Leoma, TN

#3 Oct 5, 2009
This is just crazy! What kind of sick grandparents are these? I am just glad the little boy was found safe and is back with his momma!! I hope they find them all,lock them up, and throw away the key.
Alabama Girl

Anniston, AL

#4 Oct 5, 2009
Anyone think that maybe the mom is not suitable? We don't know the whole story, just what the media printed and we read. Don't jump to conclusions so quick!!! Think about it first.
someone who knows

United States

#5 Oct 5, 2009
IF PEOPLE REALLY KNEW WHAT THIS CHILD HAS BEEN THRU WHILE IN THE CARE OF HIS "MOTHER" YOU WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION ABOUT THESE GRANDPARENTS AND NOT BE SO QUICK TO JUDGE. THEY DID THIS OUT OF LOVE AND TO PROTECT THE CHILD FROM ANY FURTHER HARM.
Drizztcole

Decatur, AL

#6 Oct 5, 2009
I have spent many nights with these so called "horrible" grandparents, and they are among the kindest people I know. They don't drink or smoke, and they wouldn't hurt a fly (which cannot be said about the mother). They may have gone about it the wrong way, but the child is MUCH better of with his grandparents and loving uncle than with mother that wants nothing to do with him. So don't jump to conclusions without reading into things a bit more...
Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.
Patrick

Dubuque, IA

#7 Oct 5, 2009
lol they brought this guy to do the dirty business haha
kcf

Huntsville, AL

#8 Oct 5, 2009
Alabama Girl wrote:
Anyone think that maybe the mom is not suitable? We don't know the whole story, just what the media printed and we read. Don't jump to conclusions so quick!!! Think about it first.
okay, the mom may not be suitable but kidnapping grandparents are. there is a legal system, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt but you cant really think that kidnapping a child instead of applying for custody legally is?
kcf

Huntsville, AL

#9 Oct 5, 2009
Drizztcole wrote:
I have spent many nights with these so called "horrible" grandparents, and they are among the kindest people I know. They don't drink or smoke, and they wouldn't hurt a fly (which cannot be said about the mother). They may have gone about it the wrong way, but the child is MUCH better of with his grandparents and loving uncle than with mother that wants nothing to do with him. So don't jump to conclusions without reading into things a bit more...
Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.
well,if the child would have been better off with them ,they blew it now, because now they will never get custody now and the mother will have grounds to barr them from visitation i am sure. Thats why people should think things through before they act.
kcf

Huntsville, AL

#10 Oct 5, 2009
someone who knows wrote:
IF PEOPLE REALLY KNEW WHAT THIS CHILD HAS BEEN THRU WHILE IN THE CARE OF HIS "MOTHER" YOU WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION ABOUT THESE GRANDPARENTS AND NOT BE SO QUICK TO JUDGE. THEY DID THIS OUT OF LOVE AND TO PROTECT THE CHILD FROM ANY FURTHER HARM.
well they went to the police, just not in a good way. if they would have went to the police first maybe a different outcome
Vengeful Father

Albertville, AL

#11 Oct 5, 2009
How ridiculous do you have to be to try and kidnap your own grandchildren? I think all parties involved deserve some prison time, not jail time !! No child deserves to be traumatized in any form, especially a kidnapping, whether it be relatives or perfect strangers doing the kidnapping.
MawMawof4

Albertville, AL

#12 Oct 5, 2009
If it's true, and the mother was not so great as some have said,I can sympathize with the grandparents for wanting to help the child.I would go through hell on earth to protect my grandbabies, and thru whomever stood in my way to get to them.I know WHAT they did was wrong, but knowing the way our courts and so called child service agencies are, I would imagine they've probably already tried to deal with both, without good results.I only hope that if that WAS the reason they did what they did, that SOMEONE will look into the matter more deeply for the safety of that baby.
snap

Grovetown, GA

#13 Oct 5, 2009
How many more children will die or be permanently maimed while waiting for children's services to do anything. Do you honestly think that children services will actually take a closer look at this child's situation now? Or will this child be another one of those statistics that fell through the cracks?
Meanwhile, they relentlessly harass others because they chose to have another child after they've had mild post partum depression. And threaten to take their child when it is born Despite the fact that they have a loving and close family with no issues.
That is how screwed up the system is.
MCLC

Decatur, AL

#14 Oct 5, 2009
I know this situation and the family and the mother is not suitable to raise this child. The Grandparents were only trying to protect their grandchild from the different types of abuse and neglect that he is being put through. The news just ran with what information they got from the mothers report. They have not even talked to the grandparents to hear their side of the story. So dont judge people whom you dont know, much less know the whole story and what has been going on during this childs life. All I can say is that this family needs your prayers and for this situation to be resolved with the CHILDS best interest in mind.
Get Real

Fort Payne, AL

#15 Oct 6, 2009
This is rediculous! The woman's parents knew that they could take her attention away from this child with a man long enough to take him. They have probably worried in the past that this would happen...and the child would be gone forever. Complaining to Children's Services does absolutely no good in these cases. I've seen women like this out in town. They have NO business with children! Any judge who would return this child to the mother without looking into the situation further is an idiot.
Andy Griffith

United States

#16 Oct 6, 2009
Ill bet if Barny would have been the officer who worked the case, he would have thought to get the names of the others involved from the grandparents. Just a thought........
Get Real

Fort Payne, AL

#17 Oct 6, 2009
kcf wrote:
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okay, the mom may not be suitable but kidnapping grandparents are. there is a legal system, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt but you cant really think that kidnapping a child instead of applying for custody legally is?
About thirty years ago there was a man in California who set fire to his son with the intent to kill him. This happened while the boy was with the father for "his weekend" that had been court appointed. The boy lived and the man went to prison. But a judge granted his "dad" visitation rights.

This meant that someone was supposed to take this child to the prison to "visit" the animal who left him permanently, physically and emotionally scarred until he was old enough to make a decision on his own not to go.

When you watch the news each night, count the stories that involve children being abused or murdered. NO we cannot depend on the system we have in place to do the right thing to protect our children.
lovin our judges

Birmingham, AL

#18 Oct 6, 2009
Our family situation was different. Our grandsons were older (13 and 14) when one of our fine judges gave custody to the mother (lol) who lost custody seven years ago becuase of being unfit! Now one young teen is being schooled "on line" because he cannot adapt at school, the other teens grades are terrible, one of them is on drugs and drinks. The mother will not work, the stepfather works in a casino and the father is having to pay over $1300 a month child support. The boys do as they please, no rules, no consequences for their actions. They did not like living with Dad because they were held accountable for their actions. The mother stated they were being abused because they were grounded when they made a grade less than a "B" in school. Our fine "judge" would not let any evidence from the mother's past be presented against her, my son was made fun of for being in the armed forces in court.(he is retired Air Force)Had these boys been with their mother when they were 4 and 5 when the parents divorced they would have been turned loose in the streets. We know this to be a fact because the neighbors would take them home at 9 PM when their Dad was stationed in Saudi!! Having said all this, IT DOES NO GOOD TO GO THROUH THE LEGAL SYSTEM IN ALABAMA, THEY DO NOT CARE, THE JUDGES AND LAWYERS MAKE THEIR DEALS OR GET THE CASES OFF THE BOOKS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN OR WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM!!!
The real Get Real

United States

#19 Oct 6, 2009
While I don't know the parties involved, I will say that the grandparents are not very smart. If they really wanted custody of this child, they should have used the legal system. The system would have had to do something if the grandparents had went about this correctly. If there was physical abuse, take pictures. Mental abuse, document every instance. Keeping a running photo and written journal would have gone a long way in gaining custody.
i know too

Fort Payne, AL

#20 Oct 6, 2009
someone who knows wrote:
IF PEOPLE REALLY KNEW WHAT THIS CHILD HAS BEEN THRU WHILE IN THE CARE OF HIS "MOTHER" YOU WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION ABOUT THESE GRANDPARENTS AND NOT BE SO QUICK TO JUDGE. THEY DID THIS OUT OF LOVE AND TO PROTECT THE CHILD FROM ANY FURTHER HARM.
The Grandparents were not in the wrong! They are very sweet people. and for everybodys info they have custody. florence just wouldn't honor the papers. so don't go popping off at the mouth when u don't know half the story. and the nanny (as quoted) loves that baby just as much as the grandparents. THE POLICE ARE WRONG. their wrong for seeing the mother fit to raise that baby. She needs to find some other way to get her drug money than that welfare check.

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