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Floral Park-Bellerose superintendent's wages under fire

There are 40 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 30, 2008, titled Floral Park-Bellerose superintendent's wages under fire. In it, Newsday reports that:

The Floral Park- Bellerose School District failed to monitor "questionable or improper" payments to a former superintendent and failed to address an excessive fund balance which may have resulted in a ...

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liner

Bronx, NY

#1 Dec 30, 2008
"The superintendent's pay was public knowledge throughout," said Fowler", the school board president.
But then, he says they changed their procedures to ensure public board resolutions for pay raises.
OK, so which is it? How was the supe's pay public knowledge if they had to change their procedures to make the supe's pay public knowledge? I guess they really do think we're stupid, don't they?
just wow

Babylon, NY

#2 Dec 30, 2008
at least roslyn school district turns out good students...
what does the floral park sd turn out?:P Hey, we need those types of jobs too...
anonymous

Yaphank, NY

#4 Dec 30, 2008
I'm sure that this was not legal on the superintendent's part.

This is off the subject but how come some articles you can comment on and others you can't. Either we should be able to comment on all of the articles written or get rid of this commenting all togher. This is not right. This is discrimination
liner

Bronx, NY

#6 Dec 30, 2008
anonymous wrote:
I'm sure that this was not legal on the superintendent's part.
This is off the subject but how come some articles you can comment on and others you can't. Either we should be able to comment on all of the articles written or get rid of this commenting all togher. This is not right. This is discrimination
Welcome to Newsday!
Outrage

New York, NY

#7 Dec 30, 2008
anonymous wrote:
I'm sure that this was not legal on the superintendent's part.
This is off the subject but how come some articles you can comment on and others you can't. Either we should be able to comment on all of the articles written or get rid of this commenting all togher. This is not right. This is discrimination
To your latter comment. Newsday just wants to control what we get to discuss. You know liberal media, liberal bias wants things slanted to the left.
Beerfart

Belmar, NJ

#8 Dec 30, 2008
liner wrote:
I guess they really do think we're stupid, don't they?
Since we are responsible for voting these same school board clowns into office and we continue to blindly approve the annual budgets (thereby increasing our already draconian school taxes), yeah, I see your point - we really are stupid.
Realist

Spring Valley, NY

#9 Dec 30, 2008
It's worse than you think. Try and vote down your budget. We did it in Wantagh and found out that we're voting on 1% of the spending. The rest is completely controlled by the system.
The entire system has to be TORN DOWN. Total Consolidation is the only way to save Long Island. These crooks will NEVER give up their gravy train without a fight.
Beerfart wrote:
<quoted text>
Since we are responsible for voting these same school board clowns into office and we continue to blindly approve the annual budgets (thereby increasing our already draconian school taxes), yeah, I see your point - we really are stupid.
mr stretch

United States

#10 Dec 30, 2008
**IF** all the fraud & downright theft was stopped from our local, state, and Federal governments, ordinary people making less than $100 K a year WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO PAY TAXES. Uncle Sam & the rest of our governments are just like a
fat, sloppy drunk staggering out of a bar at 4 a.m. The locals beat him up and "roll" him, and make off with obscene amounts of cash, and dont get caught. And if they're caught, they get a slap on the wrist.
nonsense

Central Islip, NY

#11 Dec 30, 2008
The state auditors are WAY OFF THE MARK!! All of these school districts function under the tight control of their respective boards, which generally are composed of SELF SERVING low level local politicians who peddle influence locally! THIS IS WHAT SHOULD BE EXPOSED!! Waste is the rule! It's time to adopt a business model and CUT CUT CUT!! Remember, there are hundreds of qualified teachers out there who would love to work in a LI school district!
Reasonable Tax Payer

Nanuet, NY

#12 Dec 30, 2008
The article is about how the Comptroller can target a school district for his political gains. The school disctrict in question is an elementary school district that has a very good outcome for the students at a relatively low cost per pupil amount. Dr. Mc Donanld was able to perform this service and not get paid a ludicrous amount of money. But, here is the Comptroller going after the district for what reason? If it is to improve the accounting I am for it, but if it is to push the consolidation to destroy local control I am against it. The only way to get some control over the education monster is local control.
liner

Bronx, NY

#13 Dec 30, 2008
Reasonable Tax Payer wrote:
The article is about how the Comptroller can target a school district for his political gains. The school disctrict in question is an elementary school district that has a very good outcome for the students at a relatively low cost per pupil amount. Dr. Mc Donanld was able to perform this service and not get paid a ludicrous amount of money. But, here is the Comptroller going after the district for what reason? If it is to improve the accounting I am for it, but if it is to push the consolidation to destroy local control I am against it. The only way to get some control over the education monster is local control.
You can't be serious! Long Island school districts currently are all (w/ex of Roosevelt. Another whole story), run under "local control". You have an agenda? I know, you're a teacher!
The point of this story is the fact that the district super. got raises that were not approved at a public hearing. Obviously this isn't legal, hence the probe by the AG. The school you mention might be very well run and at a reasonable cost, but that isn't the issue here.
OlderNewYorker

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Dec 30, 2008
This entire school board should be either resign in disgrace for it's obviois complicity in this latest scam and theft of taxpayer money or be VOTED OUT of office in the next election.
Never in my life have I ever
heard a board be it a simple Little League Board and especially a School Board not have decisions wrtitten into and reported in it's minutes. Recording expenditures of funds be they voted and passed in public session or executive session is an absolute must to maintain the integrity of a sitting board.
As to Bellrose/Floral Park exceeeding the 2% reserve limit by an estimated 700% on wonders when elected officials such as the legislature, the /comptrolles and the /district ?Attornies gong to stop this practice of illegal "slush
funds!"
The individual school districts have been entrenced in power for over 60 years an teir missions and integrity subverted to the point of outright crimminal conspiracies. Pensions to non qualified employees, life long helth benefits to non qualified employees especially the lawyers, double dipping employees. Tens of millions of tax dollars hidden away in secret slush funds.
Then to top the insult of the taxpayers are told "well my predecdessor as comptroller approved all this so the, Sprecial Grand Juries, theiir can be no crimminal investigation and no prosecution or jail time.
Our state legislatures need to act, abolish insdividual school districts, consolidate bNassaub and suffolf schools under one Board of Education.with a Commissioner apppoinyed by the county /exexutive whoo can thwn be held responsible to the subversion of weducation funding throughout Long Island.
As for Caroline Schollsberg I must point out to her thaq not once did I use the words "You know" in my resonse. Not once and not 1200 times as she did in her interviews. You can run if you waih foer the Senate but rest assurred I do intend to run against you in the primaries. I for one have had enough of nepotisn and cronyisn in democrat politics. So if "You know" you decdide to "you know" run foer the "You know" the senate seat from "You know" New York Iintend to engage you in debate and expose you for the total phony you are. "You know" that will be educational for all New Yorkers.

So "You know" whenever you are ready to "You know" stand ona stage and debate a real New yorker as to our problems and solutions, "You know" I'lll be ready ansd "You know" your day of reckoning is "You know" coming.

A Harvard and /colombia graduate usinfg the term "You know" 1200 times in a single interview and as per the NY times you used it 12 times in one minute, not to mention the numrous Umn's to queswtionsw and you tout youself reaqdy to represnrt New York taqsxpaywers.

"You know!"I don't think so!

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#15 Dec 30, 2008
You know, I uh, you know, agree.
Enough

Corona, NY

#16 Dec 30, 2008
Reasonable Tax Payer wrote:
The article is about how the Comptroller can target a school district for his political gains. The school disctrict in question is an elementary school district that has a very good outcome for the students at a relatively low cost per pupil amount. Dr. Mc Donanld was able to perform this service and not get paid a ludicrous amount of money. But, here is the Comptroller going after the district for what reason? If it is to improve the accounting I am for it, but if it is to push the consolidation to destroy local control I am against it. The only way to get some control over the education monster is local control.
Doc was given perks to his salary prior to his retirement to pad his pension. When questioned some were basically told how dare you question the school board.
Bottom line.. the audit states the Board knew, the Board approved ( behind closed doors) or as Fowler states in his reply in executive session. They never mentioned it in public.

Fund Balance
Many questioned it at the time The Board was told by their own auditors, yet they continued their practice of overtaxing.

Questions,
Do we get a refund? Will Doc's pension be recalculated?

Burke and Fowler(2 long time Board members) should resign immediately

Unfortunately, when the next budget goes down, the kids will have to suffer because of this nonsense

“E Pluribus F&P!”

Since: Jan 08

Floral Park

#17 Dec 30, 2008
just wow wrote:
at least roslyn school district turns out good students...
what does the floral park sd turn out?:P Hey, we need those types of jobs too...
A lot better than Rosyln through 4th grade. Rosyln is marginally better at 8th grade.
FP Taxapayer

Hackensack, NJ

#18 Dec 30, 2008
As a taxpayer in Floral Park, I know Dr. McDonald. He did a fine job leading our school district for many many years. He was a dedicated professional.
It appears he requested salary increases of 9%(or more), and the school board granted his requests (it appears). It seems the school board was less than open and forthcoming when it granted these salary increases. It seems the school board should be held accountable for this overwhelmingly generous salary increases. They are elected positions.

“E Pluribus F&P!”

Since: Jan 08

Floral Park

#19 Dec 30, 2008
It would help my case if I spelled Roslyn correctly.

While my wife and I are happy with the School District, these raises need to be documented.
Enough

Corona, NY

#20 Dec 30, 2008
FP Taxapayer wrote:
As a taxpayer in Floral Park, I know Dr. McDonald. He did a fine job leading our school district for many many years. He was a dedicated professional.
It appears he requested salary increases of 9%(or more), and the school board granted his requests (it appears). It seems the school board was less than open and forthcoming when it granted these salary increases. It seems the school board should be held accountable for this overwhelmingly generous salary increases. They are elected positions.
Of course he 'did a good job'. He had more than enough of our money. How can he not?
The truth is , it turns out he didn't do such a good job. He took more money from the taxpayers than he needed, he took more money for himself that he was not entitled too. He set up a system where there was no oversight of his financial well being. He also ignored his own external auditor.

I seem to remember some taxpayers called for a voluntary audit when the Rosyn news hit. Now we all know why he and the school board went ballistic at the mere notion of an audit.

The truth always comes out in the end. All you need is patience and time. Than you DiNapoli!
Tired

Hicksville, NY

#21 Dec 31, 2008
If a Floral Park Bellerose tax payer takes the time to attend a School Board meeting and ask questions and request answers and then looks at the published minutes at the Floral Park Public Library, the taxpayer might be surprised to find out that his or her comments are not part of the documented minutes! What else is the school board leaving undocumented?
whos crying now

East Hampton, NY

#22 Dec 31, 2008
nonsense wrote:
The state auditors are WAY OFF THE MARK!! All of these school districts function under the tight control of their respective boards, which generally are composed of SELF SERVING low level local politicians who peddle influence locally! THIS IS WHAT SHOULD BE EXPOSED!! Waste is the rule! It's time to adopt a business model and CUT CUT CUT!! Remember, there are hundreds of qualified teachers out there who would love to work in a LI school district!
I don't know how you know this, but you are one hundred percent right!
School boards and super's hold the cards against the state and local politicians because if they don't get what they lobby for from the local politicians...the local politicians will get the boot! Everyone involved from the head to the toes is on some level to some degree large or even the teeniest tiniest bit. Either way, the problem won't be fixed until the system is totally wiped away from existance and a whole new system errected. Right now all we have are a bunch of little governments on long island with the same regalia as the president of the US and his cabinet, actually these super's (and each district has many of them for this or for that)probably make more money than the members of our POTUS cabinet, heck maybe even more than our POTUS.

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