Farmington mulls north, south growth

Farmington mulls north, south growth

There are 18 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Jun 20, 2009, titled Farmington mulls north, south growth. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

This 31-square-mile city could grow significantly into San Juan County if proposed annexations eventually are approved.

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Sparky

Middletown, OH

#1 Jun 21, 2009
"In the long term, the residential areas are more costly to cities than they are a benefit," Campbell said. "The reverse of that, the benefits to the people being annexed is generally additional services that the city provides that the county may not."

That, Mr. Campbell, is about the dumbest statement to ever come from anyone in city management anywhere. And you are paid to think this stuff up?

It's a package deal, Mr. Campbell. Jobs and businesses require people to run them and they must live somewhere. It is a thorn in your side that they want to live close to their work. No jobs = no people. No people = empty land and no jobs and that includes yours.
Harvey

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Jun 21, 2009
Which brings in more crime.
Rainman

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Jun 21, 2009
The only problem I see is that annexation potentially decreases property values in the city.
hillbilly

United States

#4 Jun 21, 2009
All of the above aside, we have given up our water rights, are being sued by the blanking EPA for PH issues in our discharge and our economy is tied to a declining gas field.
We need to think about contraction instead of expansion. Long term reason should be the driving force, not the short sighted quest to stuff next years coffers.
Pavement

Grand Junction, CO

#5 Jun 21, 2009
Sheesh. The city can't even take care of the problems within the existing city limits. Why would they ask for the friggin trouble that's inherent in the areas south of town?
CrayolaCritic

AOL

#6 Jun 21, 2009
Sparky wrote:
"In the long term, the residential areas are more costly to cities than they are a benefit," Campbell said. "The reverse of that, the benefits to the people being annexed is generally additional services that the city provides that the county may not."
That, Mr. Campbell, is about the dumbest statement to ever come from anyone in city management anywhere. And you are paid to think this stuff up?
It's a package deal, Mr. Campbell. Jobs and businesses require people to run them and they must live somewhere. It is a thorn in your side that they want to live close to their work. No jobs = no people. No people = empty land and no jobs and that includes yours.
Sparky...you are not the brightest crayon in the pack. The key word in Campbell's statement was "residential"...mean ing that residential areas bring virtually no revenue to the city but require lots of services that cost much more than the taxes paid by the residents.

Since: Dec 08

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Jun 21, 2009
hillbilly wrote:
All of the above aside, we have given up our water rights, are being sued by the blanking EPA for PH issues in our discharge and our economy is tied to a declining gas field.
We need to think about contraction instead of expansion. Long term reason should be the driving force, not the short sighted quest to stuff next years coffers.
I agree with you about long term, but I"m the optimist who says long term growth is exactly WHY we should annex. The recession isn't a forever thing... honest. A good deal of it isn't even developed yet, won't cost much now, will later, but after that will bring in tax revenue for decades and decades...
Torah resident

Rio Rancho, NM

#8 Jun 21, 2009
Leave Totah as it is, no new development. Let us do what they want to do with Flint,Michigan bull doze ghetto areas and return the land back the way it was centuries ago.
Citizen

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Jun 22, 2009
Farmington's City Council and City Manager have not admitted that the City is in a deep recession, yet they are hastily trying to take advantage of the crises by spending more, enforcing the law against car window tinting for revenue, building bridges to nowhere and Green animal shelters, building water and sewer lines outside the City Limits, planning annexations, rebuilding the downtown area and the airport restaurant - they are truly running scarred - wanting to enhance their pockets before time catches up.
Ripped

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Jun 22, 2009
'The proposal heads to city councilors after Farmington Planning & Zoning commissioners endorsed the annexation last week.' Where is the vote from Farmington's citizens ? We do not want these additional liabilities in this economic crises !!!
Totah

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Jun 22, 2009
This means that the citizens of Farmington are to be hosed while residence in the three rivers area (totah) will be charged $20,000 per household sewage connection charges,$15,000 per household water connection charges,$10,000 per household paving charges and as a city resident will have the privileged of paying higher property taxes for life.
All of this is strictly to cover up the City Council and City Managers ineptness to cut city expenses consistent with the failing economy.
Citizen

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Jun 22, 2009
SJC Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you about long term, but I"m the optimist who says long term growth is exactly WHY we should annex. The recession isn't a forever thing... honest. A good deal of it isn't even developed yet, won't cost much now, will later, but after that will bring in tax revenue for decades and decades...
In other words you would like to turn a financial crises into a long term opportunity by spending money that Farmington does not have which could turn into a catastrophic tax increase for current residences.
Go back and take Economics 101 !!
perspective

Denver, CO

#13 Jun 22, 2009
Call or write your City Councilors!!!!!!!!!

Since: Dec 08

Las Vegas, NM

#14 Jun 22, 2009
Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
In other words you would like to turn a financial crises into a long term opportunity by spending money that Farmington does not have which could turn into a catastrophic tax increase for current residences.
Go back and take Economics 101 !!
I base this on the idea that most of the land is undeveloped, and there are no immident plans to develop... more along a time frame of 5 0 10 years.

The recession is NOT going to last forever, they just never do... give credit to the normal business cycle, a few smart moves by government what ever. Before you come back and yell at me I'll grant some dumb ones too. The point is this, the recession will end, growth comes back, we passed a bill that does not cost us anything (maybe moving a sign or two) NOW, then we are in position to take advantage of the growth down the line.

It has taken my all this time to realize the difference between a liberal and a conservative is that the former is an optimist, the latter a pessimist.

I'm the first to throw stones at City Council..

Since: Dec 08

Las Vegas, NM

#15 Jun 22, 2009
I wish we could preview before we hit post.. I left this out...

I'm the first to throw stones at City Council.. but I truly think they are on to something here. The real test will be the willingness of the entire City to embrace growth rather than fear or condemn it.
Sparky

Middletown, OH

#16 Jun 23, 2009
CrayolaCritic wrote:
<quoted text> Sparky...you are not the brightest crayon in the pack. The key word in Campbell's statement was "residential"...mean ing that residential areas bring virtually no revenue to the city but require lots of services that cost much more than the taxes paid by the residents.
The brilliance of my crayon aside I think your statement is totally wrong. "Residential areas bring virtually no revenue to the city."

That statement could not be further from the truth. The city is supported by property taxes, sales taxes and a myriad of other taxes paid by the people living in those residential areas.

I understand where Mr. Campbell is coming from and his statement and yours is still ludicrous.
Knowitall

Chandler, AZ

#17 Jun 23, 2009
THe City should have annexed when development started but Mary and the crew in those days were happy to push tralors and trailor trash to the edge of town. THe city should annex more than just the business areas.
hillbilly

United States

#18 Jun 23, 2009
My twisted view against expansion comes from my dim view of the future.
Over population, ground water depletion, top soil errosion, peak oil, ocean harvests being depleted and pavement being put over farmland is a reality to me.
The global warming twits, alt energy cult members and our new Bush enabled liberal fascists are just making things worse. The afore mentioned are just cash and media whores that are on a quest for power and not real solutions.
-Deep breath - Extraction and cashing wellfare checks is what drives our local economy. With the depletion of natural reasources, coupled with the dept load of our deptor government, I figure that our local economy is going to dry up.
Expantion is not the way to go, contraction might be the solution.
Get out of dept, say hey to a neighbor and plant a garden.
Dang, I hope we get this fixed in my generation before we pass this mess onto our kids.

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