Work on $11.4 million Farmington BLM ...

Work on $11.4 million Farmington BLM building starts soon

There are 27 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Apr 25, 2010, titled Work on $11.4 million Farmington BLM building starts soon. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

An Arizona company will build an $11.4 million, stimulus-funded Bureau of Land Management building that will almost double the size of the federal agency's current building.

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jon

United States

#1 Apr 25, 2010
look more of our money waysted on stuped shit and not on the roads or schools
Getting old

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Apr 25, 2010
4 or 5 people put to work. Amazing.
Rosalina

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Apr 25, 2010
Sounds like a good plan to get some people back to work over the summer.
yeppers

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Apr 25, 2010
Rosalina wrote:
Sounds like a good plan to get some people back to work over the summer.
the undocumented construction workers will have a job at least for a little while. Hooray for the stimulus.
Paladin

United States

#5 Apr 25, 2010
Stimulus money. Taxpayer money taken by force by the Federal Government being spent to grow government.
Surprise Surprise

Odessa, TX

#6 Apr 25, 2010
When a school outgrows its facility they park a couple trailers for temporary classrooms, if the BLM is too big that should work for them too.

Since: Jun 08

Farmington NM

#8 Apr 25, 2010
From what I read about the design of the new building, its supposed to be green and energy efficient. Now, maybe its a waste, I dont know. But, I'll bet in the long run, its going to be cheaper to run this new energy efficient building than wasting money on maintaining and feeding an old one, or bringing trailers in and out.
kma

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Apr 25, 2010
What a waste , put them in a double wide
Getting old

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Apr 25, 2010
ephotonic wrote:
From what I read about the design of the new building, its supposed to be green and energy efficient. Now, maybe its a waste, I dont know. But, I'll bet in the long run, its going to be cheaper to run this new energy efficient building than wasting money on maintaining and feeding an old one, or bringing trailers in and out.
Remember when solar panels for homes started? That took awhile to get the kinks out. My folks had one of the first in Farmington. Took a lot of money to fix over and over again than to finally disconnect it and get central heating and swamp cooling. Some the 'green' and energy efficiency ideas are not perfected and at times cost more to install than the actual savings. And just so we are clear. The old building will be used by someone else and there will not be any 'savings' made. At a time when our schools are having to cut back it shows a total disregard of priorities.
Outdoor junkie

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Apr 25, 2010
I just cant seem to see how this makes sense. Bad economy, HUGE defecit. Lots of buildings for sale here. Who else thinks this smells bad?

Oookay

Rio Rancho, NM

#12 Apr 25, 2010
Why hire another Arizona company? Don't they have enough work in their own state instead of hogging jobs next door? Go home Arizonians!
C Lee Nickel

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Apr 26, 2010
The BLM gets a brand new 11 million dollar office building, while at the same time the BLM tears down historical buildings and destroys historic sites on public lands, relies on volunteers to supply labor and materials to rebuild and maintain other historical sites on public lands, throws people off their legal mining claims, closes roads and blocks public access, and does incessant "clean ups", again using volunteer labor, hauling off historical objects on public lands across the western U.S.

At the same time, the BLM decries their constant budget shortfalls for field work, but seem to have plenty of money for office staff.

11 million dollars would be plenty to hire an extra field officer or two for quite a long time, and would go a long way towards improving and maintaining recreation sites on BLM administered lands, actually benefiting the public, rather than merely providing a more comfortable office for government employees to hide out in.

This would seem to be a perfect example of government's preference for providing for itself, rather than providing the service to the public at large that government is intended to do.
the old

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Apr 26, 2010
C Lee Nickel wrote:
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building has been inadequate for years. So I've got no complaints. Obviously resource protection is important too, but the money for that doesn't come out of this pot.

Since: Jun 08

Farmington NM

#15 Apr 26, 2010
I guess if volunteer labor is willing to take down some delapitated buildings beyond repair, then its probably a good idea.

If polluters or squatters are sitting on mining claims, then they should be thrown off.

Volunteer clean ups sound like a great idea. Why are people dumping trash out like that anyway?

Which one of these functions is so evil and bad?

http://www.blm.gov/nm/st/en.html

$11M sounds like a lot, it is, however, at $200 per square foot thats a 230 x 230 foot building, fairly modest. If it produces more energy than it consumes, showcases green, works well, accesible to the public, lasts 50 to 100 years, then the time to build it is now.

Since: Jun 08

Farmington NM

#16 Apr 26, 2010
Its federal money too (not used for building schools).$11 M in comparison:

The Department of Defense spends $1.8 B each and every day. Thats $75.8M per hour,$1.3M per minute. So the little building is worth 11 minutes of military time.
C Lee Nickel

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Apr 26, 2010
ephotonic wrote:
I guess if volunteer labor is willing to take down some delapitated buildings beyond repair, then its probably a good idea.
If polluters or squatters are sitting on mining claims, then they should be thrown off.
Volunteer clean ups sound like a great idea. Why are people dumping trash out like that anyway?
Which one of these functions is so evil and bad?
http://www.blm.gov/nm/st/en.html
$11M sounds like a lot, it is, however, at $200 per square foot thats a 230 x 230 foot building, fairly modest. If it produces more energy than it consumes, showcases green, works well, accesible to the public, lasts 50 to 100 years, then the time to build it is now.
What do you consider "beyond repair"? You should get out more often and see what buildings they have burned or torn down, often after individuals have paid taxes on those buildings for decades and more. I have, what's stopping you?

There's been no change to the Federal mining law that invalidates the claims on BLM administered land, nor has there been any change which has invalidated the right of a claim owner to protect his/her claim. Those powers have been usurped by the BLM.

What trash are you talking about, the artifacts that have been sitting in place for nearly a century, and that they dig holes and bury on site? The stuff they take from it's location and then put in a museum someplace, or that simply dissapears and then ends up in someones back yard as an ornament, or stored in someone's garage?

The BLM doesn't need any encouragement for it's people to sit on their butts in air-conditioned offices. Rather than building a new building for it's already bloated and inefficient office staff, they should be downsizing like everyone else, and getting back to their core function.
C Lee Nickel

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Apr 26, 2010
the old wrote:
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building has been inadequate for years. So I've got no complaints. Obviously resource protection is important too, but the money for that doesn't come out of this pot.
Which points out another problem with big government, they always have an excuse to waste money on one unnecessary project or another, and allow others to go lacking, buy merely stating that "the money for that doesn't come out of this pot." It's BS and you full well know it. When they take the money from the taxpayer, they don't break the bill down into separate "pots" and inform the public what the money is going to be used for. They pass it around through myriad levels of bureaucracy, each taking a cut, before the final amount, a fraction of what they started with, is finally allocated for whatever pet project some bureaucrat wants.

Bottom line: The BLM needs to get back to it's core function, cut the staff that sit on their butts in the office, and get everyone into a truck and out into the field. Mobile offices are easily possible in today's tech world, and they already have a Panasonic ToughBook in each Law Enforcement officer's truck. A mobile internet connection, and the BLM can be in the field, where they belong, and their office can be the size of the average 7-11 store, which I guarantee doesn't cost 11 million to build.

Since: Jun 08

Farmington NM

#19 Apr 26, 2010
C Lee Nickel wrote:
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What do you consider "beyond repair"? You should get out more often and see what buildings they have burned or torn down, often after individuals have paid taxes on those buildings for decades and more. I have, what's stopping you?
There's been no change to the Federal mining law that invalidates the claims on BLM administered land, nor has there been any change which has invalidated the right of a claim owner to protect his/her claim. Those powers have been usurped by the BLM.
What trash are you talking about, the artifacts that have been sitting in place for nearly a century, and that they dig holes and bury on site? The stuff they take from it's location and then put in a museum someplace, or that simply dissapears and then ends up in someones back yard as an ornament, or stored in someone's garage?
The BLM doesn't need any encouragement for it's people to sit on their butts in air-conditioned offices. Rather than building a new building for it's already bloated and inefficient office staff, they should be downsizing like everyone else, and getting back to their core function.
Well, I cant be everywhere at once. I have not read any news about any buildings destroyed by the BLM. No disputes in the paper (not that that is reliable). I have read about the BLM messing up a couple of events in the glade. But abuses do sound like money selling news to me. I also dont understand how somebody should have a permanent personal building on public land? How does that work? Your the only one here that has said anything specific about the abuses of the BLM. Maybe you should document that and write a book? How about a PBS documentary? I'll help.

I have seen plenty of trash in the glade. It seems a little better now but I remember piles of recent garbage, diapers, beer bottles, busted up couches and beds, dishwashers just thrown out there. It kind of bothered me that people would treat open land, that is actually kind of nice, as a dump.

I'd like to see the tea partiers converge on the BLM offices and do a citizen audit. Stand over the shoulders and document them sitting on their butts. That sounds useful. Report to MSNBC and CNN.(or we can put it in the documentary)

Then again, the entire department of the interior budget is only .3% of the federal budget. And that money is staying in the USA recirculating in the economy.(unlike $10M per hour going out of the country we freely pay for foreign oil). Maybe there is bigger fish to fry?

Since: Sep 08

Rio Rancho, NM

#20 Apr 26, 2010
It's about time. These guys needed a new building.
Just

Albuquerque, NM

#21 Apr 27, 2010
C Lee Nickel wrote:
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Bottom line: The BLM needs to get back to it's core function, cut the staff that sit on their butts in the office, and get everyone into a truck and out into the field. Mobile offices are easily possible in today's tech world, and they already have a Panasonic ToughBook in each Law Enforcement officer's truck. A mobile internet connection, and the BLM can be in the field, where they belong, and their office can be the size of the average 7-11 store, which I guarantee doesn't cost 11 million to build.
silly - they are hopelessly understaffed and manage almost 2 million acres on our behalf. Of course they need more boots on the ground and in the field - especially for law enforcement and resource protection, but to suggest that they are sitting in fancy digs (LOL) doing nothing of importance is insulting and untrue.

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