Hamilton Avenue scars slow to heal

Hamilton Avenue scars slow to heal

There are 19 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jun 1, 2007, titled Hamilton Avenue scars slow to heal. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

A year after 7 family members were slain in Near-Eastside home, the city continues to grapple with the wounds of violence and fear The news of seven killings in one home on the city's Near Eastside seemed ...

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Let us pray

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Jun 1, 2007
...that there is no violence or retaliation marking this anniversery.
Buyaclue Willya

Kokomo, IN

#2 Jun 1, 2007
"The question the community has to ask is how he was created, and how no more Desmonds are created," Height said. "We have to intervene in the lives of these kids."
Until we stop paying all the living expenses of HS girls having babies, until we make it clear that self-esteem comes from hard work and cannot be given by a classroom teacher, until we make it harder for teenage mothers to keep the children they bear with no thought about actually raising a human being from infancy to responsible adulthood, then we will always see the Desmond Turners in this world.
We have become so concerned with the psychology and "social issues" of the poor that we overlook the fact that poor doesn't have to mean violent, dirty, strung out on drugs, etc. Most poor people remain poor because if you're fed and clothed by someone else, where is the gumption to improve your lot? Living in the hood myself,not even 1 mile away from Hamilton Ave. I can promise you that 80% of us here are just working stiffs, trying to get along and helping out our neighbors the best we can. The other 20% are bums getting welfare checks or SSD or SSI for invented illnesses, staying up all night with the stereo blasting away while others are trying to sleep, screaming and fighting in the streets and whoring around in front of kids and adults alike.
The fact that people are pulling a straight Democratic ticket instead of actually thinking about the success or failure of the people they are putting in office virtually guarantees that Bart of Nottingham will continue to be Mayor of this fine hell hole and we will continue to see crime maintain its current level and probably rise.
By the way, you socialists can biatch all you want, but the plain truth is most people are poor because they CHOOSE to live that way by CHOOSING TO DRINK, DO DRUGS, HAVE BABIES THEY CAN'T AFFORD, buy big screen TVs instead of an education, drop out of school, refuse to work "menial jobs".Deal with it.
And this BS about the parents, take the kids and give them to the people who can't have kids, or get rid of the teachers Unions and archaic rules that prevent people who really care from teaching and being role models for these kids.
Jay

United States

#3 Jun 1, 2007
Peterson has done nothing.

First, we're down at least 100 cops per Abdul.

But Peterson elects to spend $10 million on sidewalks ?
PEEVED

Portsmouth, VA

#4 Jun 1, 2007
Buyaclue Willya wrote:
"The question the community has to ask is how he was created, and how no more Desmonds are created," Height said. "We have to intervene in the lives of these kids."
Until we stop paying all the living expenses of HS girls having babies, until we make it clear that self-esteem comes from hard work and cannot be given by a classroom teacher, until we make it harder for teenage mothers to keep the children they bear with no thought about actually raising a human being from infancy to responsible adulthood, then we will always see the Desmond Turners in this world.
We have become so concerned with the psychology and "social issues" of the poor that we overlook the fact that poor doesn't have to mean violent, dirty, strung out on drugs, etc. Most poor people remain poor because if you're fed and clothed by someone else, where is the gumption to improve your lot? Living in the hood myself,not even 1 mile away from Hamilton Ave. I can promise you that 80% of us here are just working stiffs, trying to get along and helping out our neighbors the best we can. The other 20% are bums getting welfare checks or SSD or SSI for invented illnesses, staying up all night with the stereo blasting away while others are trying to sleep, screaming and fighting in the streets and whoring around in front of kids and adults alike.
The fact that people are pulling a straight Democratic ticket instead of actually thinking about the success or failure of the people they are putting in office virtually guarantees that Bart of Nottingham will continue to be Mayor of this fine hell hole and we will continue to see crime maintain its current level and probably rise.
By the way, you socialists can biatch all you want, but the plain truth is most people are poor because they CHOOSE to live that way by CHOOSING TO DRINK, DO DRUGS, HAVE BABIES THEY CAN'T AFFORD, buy big screen TVs instead of an education, drop out of school, refuse to work "menial jobs".Deal with it.
And this BS about the parents, take the kids and give them to the people who can't have kids, or get rid of the teachers Unions and archaic rules that prevent people who really care from teaching and being role models for these kids.
I'm there with you. I lived in that area years ago and got out of it. Naturally I had to work meager jobs in order to save moneies to get out, gain experiences from several jobs. I thank my single/divorced Mom of 7 to say we can make differences in life. Yes, it is up to us how we want to live our life such as drugs, etc or not. I now live in Fla., own a home, car paid for. It's up to you all to want to do better. You can stay in the same area BUT it does not have to be bad neighborhood. Take pride, work together, it can be a nice warm neighborhood. We have to WANT TO clean up and stand on our feet and do better, does not matter where we live.
Marion Britton

Fayetteville, TN

#5 Jun 1, 2007
Let us pray wrote:
...that there is no violence or retaliation marking this anniversery.
AMEN!!!
MOTHER OF FIVE

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Jun 1, 2007
My heart goes out to the sister. I too lived in the neighborhood, but we have since moved out. The amount of crime and people pulling the blankets over their heads at night just got too much to handle. My family witnessed a girl being dragged from her home and my husband went to help. I called the police and when they arrived they arrested the man and took him to jail. When it came time to go to court, the girl refused to testify against the man. If we don't stand up for each other and back one another the crime will NEVER go down in this city. We moved to a very quiet section of the city and I realized the other day that since I have lived here I have not heard one gun shot, and only heard a siren three times. That is amazing in 1 year and 5 months time. I pray that things will get better for my old neighborhood. Be kind to one another and stand together and protect each other.
FORMER BART SUPPORTER

Fishers, IN

#7 Jun 1, 2007
My heart goes out to the survivors in this family. I remember that tragedy well and thought that finally something would be done about our spiraling crime problem because of it.

Sadly, nothing but lip service has been done. Our Mayor has no support from the police officers who work the street. They are demoralized, threatened if they publicly speak the truth, and are given no respect by administration.

I think the biggest problem with crime in Indianapolis is the fact that our Mayor does not respect our police force. And consequently our police force is way understaffed, their cars are old (but Frank Anderson's is NEW), their equipment is broken down, there aren't enough people to answer phones, you can't get through to the police, and the officers have no respect for the Mayor and his administration because the administration has deceived the police.

It's a real mess and I don't think Bart cares enough about our city to truly solve the problems.
Friend of the Family

Cincinnati, OH

#8 Jun 1, 2007
MOTHER OF FIVE wrote:
My heart goes out to the sister. I too lived in the neighborhood, but we have since moved out. The amount of crime and people pulling the blankets over their heads at night just got too much to handle. My family witnessed a girl being dragged from her home and my husband went to help. I called the police and when they arrived they arrested the man and took him to jail. When it came time to go to court, the girl refused to testify against the man. If we don't stand up for each other and back one another the crime will NEVER go down in this city. We moved to a very quiet section of the city and I realized the other day that since I have lived here I have not heard one gun shot, and only heard a siren three times. That is amazing in 1 year and 5 months time. I pray that things will get better for my old neighborhood. Be kind to one another and stand together and protect each other.
Magdo Albarran's daughter and his former wife have also been involved in efforts to assit the neighborhood. The little girl and her mother collected several hundred dollars for the neighborhood school. The Covarrubias-Albarran family were all wonderful people who will long be remembered by the neighborhood residents and the teachers and staff of School 15.
Real Estate Agent

Cincinnati, OH

#9 Jun 1, 2007
People who live in that neighborhood need to explore their options. Their rent is as high as rent in many better, safer neighborhoods. The absentee landlords are always there to collect the rent but they do little to maintain their properties.

Many people have stayed in the area because they appreciated the school and its staff. With the well respected principal, secretary, and several very good teachers leaving, I think people will be ready to move.
Anna Mae

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Jun 1, 2007
God Bless the family that is still here trying to figure out why.

Bless this innocent family.

And finally, please put these murders to death. EYE 4 AN EYE!!!
bob

Greenfield, IN

#12 Jun 1, 2007
this particular area has been -"dicey" and "seedy" for many many years dating back to the 1960s!----so all of sudden!---we are going to pur and /waste money on this area------when??????????are people ever going to believe and receive the truth that money cannot and willnot change the neighborhood and eliminate wrongdoing?
bob

Greenfield, IN

#13 Jun 1, 2007
immediately after this terrible incident-------the -"word on the street" was that daughter was heavily involved in drug traffic and the thugs and hoodlums got word that there was apparently a whole lotta cash and stuff at the location and an apparent robbery ended up being a massacre!---which was a multiple loss of life for other innocent family members.
Theres No Gov Like No Gov

Louisville, KY

#14 Jun 2, 2007
For years we have been told that all these improvements downtown, a new stadium, the Dolts, etc, were going to make Indy a better place and benefit everyone.

We see how much of a load of crap that was. The rising crime rate can be directly attributed to the focus on the unnecessary stuff like the NFL and NCAA. Billions of dollars have been and will be spent to enrich a few downtown businesses and benefit travelers and to make sure we have a stadium the NFL wont hold the Super Bowl in. That money could have and should have been spent on public safety and sanitation (sewers).

Bart Peterson is a joke and a major part of the problem. But so were those Republican Mayors before him that started all of this. Hudnut and Goldsmith are as much to blame as Peterson.
Death Penalty is Immoral

Louisville, KY

#15 Jun 2, 2007
Anna Mae wrote:
EYE 4 AN EYE!!!
An eye for an eye will eventually just make everyone blind.
Not Always

Cincinnati, OH

#16 Jun 2, 2007
Anna Mae wrote:
God Bless the family that is still here trying to figure out why.
Bless this innocent family.
And finally, please put these murders to death. EYE 4 AN EYE!!!
An eye for an eye won't work. Two men were involved in the killings. You can't kill them seven times.
an urban missionary

Dayton, OH

#17 Jun 2, 2007
Yes, this neighborhood is a rough neighborhood. Yes, awful things happen here sometimes. But that doesn't mean that this neighborhood has no value.

If you want to see positive changes happen here, come and live in this neighborhood, meet the people who live here, and build loving relationships with the people you only see on TV when multiple killings take place.
Mr Lucas

Louisville, KY

#18 Jun 2, 2007
Death Penalty is Immoral wrote:
<quoted text>
An eye for an eye will eventually just make everyone blind.
That's a dumb comment that has absolutely no rational meaning in the context of revenge. This is more rational....kill the killer and he will never kill again.
lec

Cincinnati, OH

#19 Jun 4, 2007
an urban missionary wrote:
Yes, this neighborhood is a rough neighborhood. Yes, awful things happen here sometimes. But that doesn't mean that this neighborhood has no value.
If you want to see positive changes happen here, come and live in this neighborhood, meet the people who live here, and build loving relationships with the people you only see on TV when multiple killings take place.
AMEN!! AND I I MAY SAY;
The neighborhood is rough and I often wonder if I have PTSD, but I also feel that maybe if those who do not live in our neighborhood(LIC# begining with 29) would stop coming here to get drugs and prostitutes we may be able to make headway in revitalization of the East Side.
Please dont contribute to the crime in our area and also feel the need to badmouth it at any given chance(or in any public forum).
Plese also know that not all who live in the area being discussed prefer to live here because it is "cheap" and we "dont care about ourselves" because this is soooo very far from the truth. I have a husband, degree, and 3 children, and I am happy where I am; ON INDIANAPOLIS' EASTSIDE!!!
charles stone

United States

#20 Jun 6, 2007
an urban missionary wrote:
Yes, this neighborhood is a rough neighborhood. Yes, awful things happen here sometimes. But that doesn't mean that this neighborhood has no value.
If you want to see positive changes happen here, come and live in this neighborhood, meet the people who live here, and build loving relationships with the people you only see on TV when multiple killings take place.
sure come on live on the east side enjoy all we have to offer in the way of drive by's robberies murders we have something for everyone come on what are you waiting for get your as$ on over here now.

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