Flat Rock mayor calls Mumpower 'arrog...

Flat Rock mayor calls Mumpower 'arrogant a--'

There are 114 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Apr 9, 2008, titled Flat Rock mayor calls Mumpower 'arrogant a--'. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

In his nearly seven-year political career, Asheville City Councilman Carl Mumpower has been called plenty of names.

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lou bissette

Wilmington, NC

#1 Apr 9, 2008
nail on the head
lokel

Weaverville, NC

#2 Apr 9, 2008
Sounds like the Good Mayor has it on the head!

Although I would have thrown in pompous as well...
Willie

Princeton Junction, NJ

#3 Apr 9, 2008
Flat Rock Mayor Bob Staton used that language in an email to Mumpower, after a dustup over rules for an upcoming debate
One question, what is a dustup????
Scott

United States

#4 Apr 9, 2008
Anyone who has ever had any dealings with Mr. Mumpower knows "arrogant ass", is the nicest thing to say about him!
Bob

Columbia, SC

#5 Apr 9, 2008
To be honest, when you get right down to it, EVERY politician is an "arrogant ass." It's a trait developed typically by people who are power hungry or whom have Neapolian complexes, hence, the descriptive phrase. They could also be UNC fans.
MYDONNA

Great Falls, MT

#6 Apr 9, 2008
Noun 1. dustup - an angry dispute; "they had a quarrel"; "they had words"
quarrel, run-in, wrangle, row, words
difference of opinion, dispute, difference, conflict - a disagreement or argument about something important; "he had a dispute with his wife"; "there were irreconcilable differences"; "the familiar conflict between Republicans and Democrats"
affray, altercation, fracas - noisy quarrel
pettifoggery, spat, squabble, tiff, bicker, bickering, fuss - a quarrel about petty points
bust-up - a serious quarrel (especially one that ends a friendship)
Pal

Raleigh, NC

#7 Apr 9, 2008
I hate to admit it but even his ad on tv comes across like his nose is in the air. I think that Mr. Mumpower feels he is superior. I certainly would never vote for him. Arrogant, Pompous and aggressive. I still laugh about his spy work at the projects and at the rock concert.His intentions may have been good but he came across like a complete dork, even to those who arent drug users.
Dionysis

Greenville, SC

#8 Apr 9, 2008
"One question, what is a dustup?"

It's the newest media-generated buzz word for 'dispute','argument' or 'altercation'. It's not a real word.

Now, as to this matter...so poor widdle Carl wants to pout and take his ball home if he can't have BIG signs. What's the matter, lacking confidence in your 'message'? Does Carl feel he needs BIG signs to overcome some perceived inadequacies? This all sounds like a juvenile tantrum. The Mayor seemingly used the correct adjectives, and he certainly posed the right rhetorical question.
bruce wayne

Hendersonville, NC

#9 Apr 9, 2008
Don't you just love these wonderful democrats. Like a bunch of kids calling people names. My daddy can beat your daddy. Teacher, he's looking at me. This is the mentality of the democrats today.
Jackson Girl

Maxton, NC

#10 Apr 9, 2008
Looks like Mayor Staton had the guts to say what many others have felt like saying about Mumpower. I admire him for saying it directly to him.
John J

Taylorsville, NC

#11 Apr 9, 2008
Wonder if he will be calling him a arrogant azz when hes the only no vote to not annex flat rock into the city. Pretty soon those liberals will be trying to annex the moon.
lokel

Weaverville, NC

#13 Apr 9, 2008
bruce wayne wrote:
Don't you just love these wonderful democrats. Like a bunch of kids calling people names. My daddy can beat your daddy. Teacher, he's looking at me. This is the mentality of the democrats today.
For the record Dr. M is a REPUBLICAN.
Anita Jackincoke

Eddyville, KY

#14 Apr 9, 2008
Here's the relevant email exchange that I got from the Times-News. If anything, Mayor Staton sounds like the arrogant hysteric:

In a message dated 4/8/2008 2:39:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:

Mr. Mumpower:

Your so-called "position statement" concerning the Meet the Candidates and Issues Forum sponsored by the Village of Flat Rock and to be held at the Parish Hall of the Church of St. John in the Wilderness on April 10, 2008, is pure, unadulterated horse manure! In addition to its being absolute drivel, it is replete with untruths.

I do not know where the Blue Ridge Republican Women's Club is located or who its members may be, but I can only imagine that the basis of your squabble with that entity, like your perceived problem with Flat Rock, is of your own making and imagination.

When I first heard that you may not participate in our forum, I thought that your withdrawal from an event in which you had previously committed to participate would not actually happen. As I followed the communications between you and former Mayor Terry Hicks, however, I came to realize that the mountain you were making out of a molehill, which seemed to be based on your unfounded assertion that we had "unilaterally changed the rules" on you and "rigged the game," would in fact cause you to renege on your commitment to the citizens of Flat Rock. At first I was disappointed that our citizens would not have the opportunity to meet and to hear the positions of all three Republican candidates for the Eleventh District Congressional seat. After all that I have heard from and about you in the meantime, my disappointment has waned, and I have since concluded that your absence from the forum will be your loss and not ours.

While I was inclined not to dignify your positions with a response, I will comment on two statements. As to your allegations that we made a last minute unilateral rule change by advising all three candidate-participants that banners, posters and signs would not be permitted in the parish hall, that was not a change in the rules. In the eight years or so that we have sponsored and conducted such candidate forums, all at the parish hall, that has always been the rule. Notwithstanding Mayor Hicks' explanation of that fact to you, you continue to assert that we have "changed the rules." Nothing could be further from the truth, and your continued assertions to the contrary do not make it more nearly truthful.

The other statement that really annoys me is your assertion that we are somehow running a "rigged game." That is downright insulting! The candidates were told that campaign literature would be welcome and could be placed in the seats in the parish hall beforehand or otherwise distributed to prospective voters in attendance at the forum. In response to a candidate's inquiry, we advised that signs would not be permitted in the parish hall. That information was imparted to all three candidates and applied equally to all three. In what context does a rule applied equally to all candidates constitute "rigging the game"? Again, your unfounded assertion that we have"rigged the game" is insulting and unacceptable.

In my three decades of practicing law in our Nation's Capitol, I encountered my share of arrogant asses, but none could hold a candle to you! And you want to be my Congressman??? I think not!

Bob Staton
anderson

Leicester, NC

#15 Apr 9, 2008
My personal impression of Mumpower has never been that he's arrogant. In my opinion, he is always even tempered and calm. He's not overly dramatic, which is why I usually listen to what he has to say. When a public figure calls someone an arrogant ass, it only reflects poorly on the accuser.
Mountain Born and Bred

Spruce Pine, NC

#16 Apr 9, 2008
In response to Bruce Wayne, the debate is to be between the REPUBLICAN candidates for congress. My only hope is you do NOT have a driver's license and ARE NOT registered to vote.
Anita Jackincoke

Eddyville, KY

#17 Apr 9, 2008
And the email exchange that followed:

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Village of Flat Rock's Meet the Candidate and Issues Forum
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 3:20:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time

Mayor Staton,

Your email illustrates my concerns. Please correct me on the following-

1) Were you all contacted by one of the Candidates last week and asked to not allow campaign signs and other active campaigning at the forum?

2) Did you follow-up on that inquiry with an email that, per prior information given to the candidates, established new parameters for the debate?

2) Did you folks not send out guidelines on the forum in January - none of which prohibited signage or active campaigning?

I encourage you to invest your insults and votes as you feel best. I have no personal animosities on this matter and simply have a principle disagreement based on the above. If I am not willing to stand up to nonsense at home I certainly won't be able to do it in Washington.

If you have any constructive solutions, I am open to such. Acknowledging the error in process and providing space for active campaigning might one such solution.

Carl Mumpower
11th District Republican Congressional Candidate

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In a message dated 4/8/2008 4:43:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:

Gentlemen;

I have received several comments indicating misunderstanding of our approach to handling campaign signage. If so, the error is mine and my responsibility to clarify.

The guidelines sent to candidates with their official invitation to participate in the Village of Flat Rock "Meet the Candidates Issues Forum " encouraged each candidate to bring promotional materials to place on each seat in the auditorium for citizens who attend to take home and study. It failed to state that banners and other large signs are not to be used in the auditorium.

The Village does encourage each candidate to bring signage for use by those who desire to promote their candidacy. We anticipate candidates will make their availability known as a part of their presentations. There is space in the lobby for candidates to place and hand out these larger promotional items.

In addition candidates are free to place banners and other signage on the grounds approaching the auditorium. It is best for these to be placed within the hour before the forum and removed shortly after the forum ends.

The Village has held many forums over the years and has always handled promotional materials and other signage in this manner.

Terry Hicks
Moderator

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From: [email protected]
Date: April 8, 2008 4:46:37 PM EDT
To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: Campaign Promotional Items

Mr. Hicks,

Per your note and efforts, it will be my pleasure to participate in the event.

Carl Mumpower
11th District Republican Congressional Candidate

Looks like to me Mumpower and Hicks were acting maturely. Saton comes off as an overly entitled, foulmouthed, fat-cat Republican mayor of some two-bit burgh who is not used to being challenged.
Bruce Harris

United States

#18 Apr 9, 2008
Whats a liberal? Oh, yeah, the guys that build things for the conservatives to tear down, like The United States of America.

Staton's comment was rhetorical. All republicans are arrogant asses. Its gonna take a heck of an efoort to deprogram the salvagable one, a job we can't start until the really bad apples are gone, like the third senator for Texas, Elizabeth Dole.
Firefly

Lincolnton, NC

#19 Apr 9, 2008
Flat Rock has a mayor? What exactly is the population of Flat Rock? 2000?
Guest

Taylorsville, NC

#20 Apr 9, 2008
Bruce Harris wrote:
Whats a liberal?.
People who like to take other peoples money and property and give it to those who don't want to work for it. Cowards who would rather be walked on than stand up. Communist or socialist depending on what degree of kook you are.
Ron Blackmon

Hendersonville, NC

#21 Apr 9, 2008
Get em Carl. Put the Mayor in his place.

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