Charges filed in copper wire death

Full story: The Indianapolis Star

A man faces charges in the death of an accomplice who police say was fatally shocked while the two were trying to steal copper wire.
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sizzling

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Jun 27, 2007
 

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I am jolted with the news!(bet you thought that I would write that I was shocked? Such a statement would be sooooo juvenile)
The air is filled with electricity as we await the pleadings of the perp in the courtroom. Innocent or guilty? We can almost feel the undercurrents.

However, first we must ask the important question of the day:
Where were the parents?
Darwin

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Jun 27, 2007
 
I was right!
Opinion

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Jun 27, 2007
 
What kind of charges? Leaving the scene of fatal stupidity?(Barbequeing
without a permit?)
dumb hoosier

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#4
Jun 27, 2007
 
Did not know that copper wire had a living life. What a headline. Wonder what 3rd grader wrote it. Anything to save Gannett a couple bucks
2 cents

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#5
Jun 27, 2007
 
So Darwin missed one but the cops caught him anyway.
Electrcian

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Jun 27, 2007
 
Thou shall not steal
Electrcian

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Jun 27, 2007
 
Thou shal not steal
liDs

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Jun 27, 2007
 
im confused. why is the OLDS being charged with manslaughter? did he kill him, or did the electrical wire kill him bc he was being stupid and tryin to steal something? i dont know...
Slow day

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Jun 27, 2007
 
Maybe I missed something, but the man who actually touched the copper wires (essential committing suicide) is somehow not responsible for his own death? Did the survivor make him touch the wires? If not, how can he be charged with murder? He's apparently a criminal but shouldn't the crime fit the bill? Or is charging him with a greater crime and locking him behind bars for many years just another tactic to justify the raising of our income taxes?
Amber

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#10
Jun 27, 2007
 
This is so confusing to me. Why is he being being charged with manslaughter?
unplugged

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#11
Jun 27, 2007
 
There was a typo on the list of charges.
Not Manslaughter but
man's laughter
They were having too much fun.
Indy Lawyer

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Jun 27, 2007
 
Slow day wrote:
Maybe I missed something, but the man who actually touched the copper wires (essential committing suicide) is somehow not responsible for his own death? Did the survivor make him touch the wires? If not, how can he be charged with murder? He's apparently a criminal but shouldn't the crime fit the bill? Or is charging him with a greater crime and locking him behind bars for many years just another tactic to justify the raising of our income taxes?
My guess it they are charging him under some felony murder charge. Essentiall, if someone dies while you are committing a felony, even if you didn't "technically" kill them, you can be charged with their death. The classic example is someone robs a convenience store. A patron is so scared by the robber that he has a heart attack and dies. The robber is charged with robbery of the store and with murder of the patron.

Here's more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder
Mauri Rahn

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Jun 27, 2007
 
What a couple of losers, well, one loser and one guy who took the dirt nap. To bad there are not more deaths of criminals while they are breaking the law. What did the older one do, tell the other dude "Hey, it is ok to stand in that bucket of water while you steal this copper".

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Jun 27, 2007
 
FYI - Just in case anyone cares - THERE IS NO COPPER IN ELECTRICAL LINES. Hopefully, that prevents another one.

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

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#15
Jun 27, 2007
 
What the font? These guys were truly a couple of Dingbats that got Zapf'ed .

Oh, Adobe accusing ME of not giving a Helvetica about THEIR Bold Eras. I don't Courier what you think. I'm not that typeface of a person, you WingDings.
TRAGIC

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Jun 27, 2007
 

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So how violent was the death? I sure hope the wire didn't suffer much.

I just hate it when copper wire or pipe has to be needlessly killed just so some greedy sumb*tch can recover and melt it down.

Hopefully the other guy gets to fry
Lene

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#17
Jun 27, 2007
 
Our judicial system is getting worse and worse, I agree with "slow day". The man didn't kill him, they were stealing together. Some of the laws on the book need to be reviewed because this is rediculous. They are going to accuse a theif of manslaughter. Utterly rediculous. I hope his family gets a great attorney.
Slow day

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Jun 27, 2007
 
Indy Lawyer wrote:
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My guess it they are charging him under some felony murder charge. Essentiall, if someone dies while you are committing a felony, even if you didn't "technically" kill them, you can be charged with their death. The classic example is someone robs a convenience store. A patron is so scared by the robber that he has a heart attack and dies. The robber is charged with robbery of the store and with murder of the patron.
Here's more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder
Oh, okay. That's very interesting. I would still argue that these two guys were both committing a crime and one happened to get killed while in the act. As an example, if two people were robbing a store and one held the gun during the crime accidently shot and killed himself, his accomplice would be charged with murder? I could see if there was something the survivor did to aid in his accomplice's death but they were both willing participants in the crime and, therefore, should be held accountable for their own actions. It's unfortunate that this time it was death.
Slow day

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Jun 27, 2007
 
Indy Lawyer wrote:
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My guess it they are charging him under some felony murder charge. Essentiall, if someone dies while you are committing a felony, even if you didn't "technically" kill them, you can be charged with their death. The classic example is someone robs a convenience store. A patron is so scared by the robber that he has a heart attack and dies. The robber is charged with robbery of the store and with murder of the patron.
Here's more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder
Hey, I checked out the web site and it seemed that in every case described, an innocent person was killed and not the criminal. This one may be a stretch for the prosecutor.
TRAGIC

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Jun 27, 2007
 
Electrcian wrote:
Thou shall not steal
Thou shalt not Copper, either!!!

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