Union Busting

Tipp City, OH

#21 Jan 12, 2013
Uno Voter wrote:
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Excuse Me... Please stop encouraging these schoolyard bullies to go after the voters! that's one skill in which our schoolyard bullies never neglect their development. If disgruntled school employees are unhappy with themselves working for our community members, then please, consider your options and opportunities to exercise your Right to Work elsewhere.
If our school staff is as great as these union activists rally them to be, then there should be great demands from other communities offering employment of such greatness.
I am not a believer in unions, but this is exactly why there are unions because of the current environment. Try doing a study of Dayton and Cincinnati area teaching and Administration jobs and look at current salaries. This just might key in on the cost of good staff for our buildings. The thought is, the BOE and its followers want to chase away our current staff through bullying and harassment. Do the work and let ALL of us know what was found. Unfortunately, I think you will find Springboro is very competitive if not behind most areas for administrators and teaching positions.

Now re-evaluation of longevity and teacher evaluations are in the works . I believe most of us are in agreement that this should have been changed a long time ago.

Stop throwing stones and become optimistic that change is amidst us. Our teachers need support in the challenging jobs they do for our kids.
Amazing Ignorance

Tipp City, OH

#22 Jan 12, 2013
Waste Watchers wrote:
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its miller tyme wrote:
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Regarding the ability to read, we have a board member with the initials D.M. who may have serious difficulty in attaining a 6th grade rating of proficient.
Our children's future individual achievements in education can accelerate no higher than the VISION that parents, teachers, community members, and school board representatives set forth as the mission of this school district.
While Mr. Miller focused on the wasteful spending of investing in a feasibility study that could return in benefits for our children’s future; it should be noted that money is not the only resource that we should be watchful not to waste.
What about the waste of time and unproductive service rendered to our schools and community by Springboro Board of Education representative, Don Miller?
Just as we expect a year's growth in the achievements of our children at the end of the school year; shouldn't taxpayers expect a year of growth in the leadership of our educators and elected school board representatives? Why is Don Miller starting out his 2013 year of service as BOE representative exactly the way he started out in 2012-- just voting No No No on every opportunity to show himself as a leader who puts our children's best interest priority over the politics of personal destruction undermining the children first budgeting school board members achievements for our children's future?
It is troubling to see members of our school superintendent's district parent council (including Lisa Babb and Tiffany Carlisle) led by board member Don Miller, conducting these time wasting, disgusting, collective public protests against Springboro Board of Education members, such as community members witnessed at the January 10 meeting;
because one of the school superintendent's district goals for his parents council is:
"Establish an environment of trust and transparency with community, staff, and the Springboro Board of Education."
I would ask Mr. Petrey why in the world is his chosen few union activists doing anything except wasting time and resources with their relentless apolitical agenda of dividing the Board of Education leadership and conquering for political gain of empowering the Teachers Union?
It could be that Mr. Petrey should evaluate this performance that his teaching staff and district parent council presents
to Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners;
and address this disruptive behavior being carried on throughout our community by school staff members, PTO moms, and parent council members; before he and Don Miller and Tracy Jarvis bring up getting that emergency levy on the ballot as fast as you can, regardless of the cost to taxpayers.
Don Miller was so embellished with excitement and empowerment of the bully union activists kind that he accelerated the "no tax increase Renewal Levy" to an emergency levy! Big difference, Mr. Miller. The only emergency on the 2013 school district ballot will be excusing you and your "no vision nor inspiration" lack of leadership as a board
It is amazing the pointed comments that can be cast. It's all Don Miller's fault for everything. It's Don Miller's fault for athletics? It's Don Miller's fault for Jonathan Wright being empty? It's Don Miller's fault for gun control? It's Don Miller's fault for salaries being at their current levels? It's Don Miller's fault that Supt Todd Petrey won't throw the teachers under the bus? It's Don Miller's fault that we need to pass the renewal levy this year or next?
Don Miller sounds like he might have the answers to all based on everything he has been blamed for. Amazing power Don.
If he interchanged the words emergency and renewal, so what? We all know what needs to be done.
GLADLY VOTE NO if you don't care whether your kids can go to school. You might find padlocks on the doors. Now that might be the dream of a few of the BOE members, but to this parent would be a sad day for our community.
Proud parent - Boro Grads

Germantown, OH

#23 Jan 13, 2013
parent wrote:
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I'm a Springboro parent who attended this past Thursday's school board meeting. I don't recall a whole lot of maturity nor levelheadedness coming from the teachers section of the auditorium. This feeling of disgust toward the teachers overall disgusting behavior was shared by most parents sitting around us near the back of the room.
I am also a parent and sat in the back of the room. I observed people passionate about their children, not the teachers misbehaving. I also sat near a row of teachers. The ones I sat behind and the ones behind me, were very respectful.
Btw, I am conservative and DO NOT AGREE with the bullying tactics taking place by our school board majority. I honestly believe they have future political aspirations and are using our children and community as a platform to achieve their political agendas. It is unfortunate as they give the rest of us, who are conservatives, a bad rap. Children first....no...they are putting themselves first under the guise of supporting our kids. Quite far from it.
Nice

Dayton, OH

#24 Jan 13, 2013
Proud parent - Boro Grads wrote:
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I am also a parent and sat in the back of the room. I observed people passionate about their children, not the teachers misbehaving. I also sat near a row of teachers. The ones I sat behind and the ones behind me, were very respectful.
Btw, I am conservative and DO NOT AGREE with the bullying tactics taking place by our school board majority. I honestly believe they have future political aspirations and are using our children and community as a platform to achieve their political agendas. It is unfortunate as they give the rest of us, who are conservatives, a bad rap. Children first....no...they are putting themselves first under the guise of supporting our kids. Quite far from it.
I completely AGREE with this! The new board members were elected by the people to SERVE the people.It was clear at the meeting that the people did not want a charter school. It has also become increasingly clear that their is no leadership on this board. There should be one person who speaks for the school district, the Superintendent. It shows a lack of control from the BOE and a lack of respect for the Superintendent position when you have three board members either in the paper or on the news speaking about the school. All three were using the media for their own agenda and it is embarrassing to say the least. I too am a conservative and am disgusted by what I am seeing. Respect is earned by working with all parties over time, not demanded when it is obvious that it is an us against them mentality from the BOE. All three board members ran on fiscal responsibility and yet they want to start a charter school that will "hopefully break even" when there is a renter in the building and the school is making a profit. Programs are being examined for cuts, and yet they are voting on spending 15,000 for a charter school that the public does not support. I repeat, respect is earned...
If the BOE feels the "gifted students" are not challenged enough, then they need to enhance the current curriculum to address this, not start another school that is competition with the current schools. Bottom line is you will be treated with respect when you respect your positions and let the Superintendent do the job you hired him to do. It is his job to see what is not working and come up with ideas to solve the issues. It is your job to support him. Please stop using the BOE as a platform for your personal agendas. You are making our community look as dysfunctional as the government.
Bishop Fenwick

Germantown, OH

#25 Jan 13, 2013
We've had children in Springboro schools since David Baker was still around. I don't know if I can express in words how GREAT it feels to have our kids finally out of there.
So instead of delving into the gory details, I believe I'll turn off the computer and go help my spouse fix Sunday breakfast. In a few minutes our kids will come thumping down the stairs. Each of them will be getting a big hug.
LISTEN

Tipp City, OH

#26 Jan 13, 2013
Proud parent - Boro Grads wrote:
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I am also a parent and sat in the back of the room. I observed people passionate about their children, not the teachers misbehaving. I also sat near a row of teachers. The ones I sat behind and the ones behind me, were very respectful.
Btw, I am conservative and DO NOT AGREE with the bullying tactics taking place by our school board majority. I honestly believe they have future political aspirations and are using our children and community as a platform to achieve their political agendas. It is unfortunate as they give the rest of us, who are conservatives, a bad rap. Children first....no...they are putting themselves first under the guise of supporting our kids. Quite far from it.
There have been lots of good comments and if you were at the meeting select BOE members appeared to be quite distraught as to why everyone is OUTRAGED and DEMANDING RESPECT (and of course the comeback will be bullying pulpit of Don Miller or Union First teachers) Instead of spouting the same ole stuff, take time and read and really LISTEN to ALL SIDES. The sad part is some of the ideas that were being looked at were good BUT ramming them done everyone's throat does not work.(Now the next comeback is respecting the elected authority) This is NOT a dictatorship and the people elect the BOE to do the will of ALL. You work for the people and the teachers (many of them taxpayers themselves) are included in this group. The stifling of any group brings on frustration and does not allow for any progress by anyone.

I'm afraid the damage has been done and that this group will NEVER see that no one here will bow down before them like they want. Mr Petroni took 30 min (probably more) ranting about respect and how he's qualified??? What about those teachers and Administrators and everyone else that goes to work every day at those schools. Are they any less qualified?

And for the UNION-FIRST selfish moungers out there, who isn't a little selfish when it doesn't come to their FAMILY? Everyone works for a reason (a paycheck) and as I hear everyday all teachers and staff earn their pay checks with the unfunded mandates and other obstacles to learning cast on their shoulders. TEACHERS ARE TAKING ON THE NEW CHALLENGES (common core) AND IMPLEMENTING SUCH.

There are limits and I think we can come to common ground, IF the BOE is reasonable and LISTENS. Unfortunately, the current mindset of hate is apparent here and a my way or the highway mentality.

We need our GOOD teachers here in Springboro and the GRANDSTANDING of select BOE members needs to stop. Listen to your community and work together, not against.

Here's a hint: If you don't get along with one, it might be the other person. If you don't get along with everyone? It's you.(A little self insight)

And last, press releases by select BOE members with political agendas and highly controversial stances to stir up the public are dangerous. Again, the statements made to the press were not for betterment of our kids or district. It was one persons personal agenda with no thought for the consequences it might bring.
Uno Voter

Piqua, OH

#27 Jan 13, 2013
Union Busting wrote:
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I am not a believer in unions, but this is exactly why there are unions because of the current environment. Try doing a study of Dayton and Cincinnati area teaching and Administration jobs and look at current salaries. This just might key in on the cost of good staff for our buildings. The thought is, the BOE and its followers want to chase away our current staff through bullying and harassment. Do the work and let ALL of us know what was found. Unfortunately, I think you will find Springboro is very competitive if not behind most areas for administrators and teaching positions.
Now re-evaluation of longevity and teacher evaluations are in the works . I believe most of us are in agreement that this should have been changed a long time ago.
Stop throwing stones and become optimistic that change is amidst us. Our teachers need support in the challenging jobs they do for our kids.
No disrespect to your opinion; but your post is only your opinion.
Each school district voter has right to our own opinion (which is based on several factors of personal life experiences).

Since there is no such thing as Impartial; each voter has the responsibility of examining our own convictions and basic values beliefs; and then take a stand on either the right side with conservative voters; or the left side with liberal union activists voters.

There is no middle ground in this school district's class warfare,(the Takers trying to force more money from the Makers of the money) waged by the Springboro Education Association's community activism groups, against our community of taxpaying homeowners who are already heavily burdened with the cost of education in the public schools.

So get used to it, SEA, because here is one conservative voter who is just as passionate about my Right to Work in my own best interest to STOP tax increases on my family's home; as my liberal neighbors wearing the Union label are passionate about taking away my Right to Work.

Now, shall we all shake hands and get to work changing the hostile attacks on the characters of conservative school board members?
We have an important renewal levy coming up and all Springboro community members should have the opportunity to attend public school board discussions on how the board will spend our money; without listening to 30 minutes of rallying the creepy cult-like worship of Springboro teachers.

Your turn union activists -- batter up!
pay attention

Germantown, OH

#28 Jan 13, 2013
LISTEN wrote:
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(Now the next comeback is respecting the elected authority) This is NOT a dictatorship and the people elect the BOE to do the will of ALL. You work for the people and the teachers (many of them taxpayers themselves) are included in this group. The stifling of any group brings on frustration and does not allow for any progress by anyone.
Try to pay closer attention next time. This school board isn't "stifling" anyone. The stiflers I saw Thursday night were a CERTAIN group of teachers who expressed quite adamantly that their union's agenda must always remain front and center in our lives.
Again Amazing

Tipp City, OH

#29 Jan 13, 2013
Uno Voter wrote:
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No disrespect to your opinion; but your post is only your opinion.
Each school district voter has right to our own opinion (which is based on several factors of personal life experiences).
Since there is no such thing as Impartial; each voter has the responsibility of examining our own convictions and basic values beliefs; and then take a stand on either the right side with conservative voters; or the left side with liberal union activists voters.
There is no middle ground in this school district's class warfare,(the Takers trying to force more money from the Makers of the money) waged by the Springboro Education Association's community activism groups, against our community of taxpaying homeowners who are already heavily burdened with the cost of education in the public schools.
So get used to it, SEA, because here is one conservative voter who is just as passionate about my Right to Work in my own best interest to STOP tax increases on my family's home; as my liberal neighbors wearing the Union label are passionate about taking away my Right to Work.
Now, shall we all shake hands and get to work changing the hostile attacks on the characters of conservative school board members?
We have an important renewal levy coming up and all Springboro community members should have the opportunity to attend public school board discussions on how the board will spend our money; without listening to 30 minutes of rallying the creepy cult-like worship of Springboro teachers.
Your turn union activists -- batter up!
Then vote NO to the renewal as it is your choice. This is the current status quo of NOT LISTENING TO ANYONE but go about your own self serving agenda. I am a conservative also, but can't stand the self righteous who railroad all of us into their way of thinking without listening to all sides and having respect for all sides.

By the way, the board meeting wasn't all about the rallying of creepy cult-like springboro teachers? It was about listening to the whiny, parent like rantings of a few board members treating everyone like children.
Performance Review

Piqua, OH

#30 Jan 13, 2013
Again Amazing wrote:
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Then vote NO to the renewal as it is your choice. This is the current status quo of NOT LISTENING TO ANYONE but go about your own self serving agenda. I am a conservative also, but can't stand the self righteous who railroad all of us into their way of thinking without listening to all sides and having respect for all sides.
By the way, the board meeting wasn't all about the rallying of creepy cult-like springboro teachers? It was about listening to the whiny, parent like rantings of a few board members treating everyone like children.
As for me and my household of voters, listening to the comments of those few board members was like heavenly music to our ears, after sitting through 30 minutes or so of self absorbed ramblings of the simple minded...
btw: who was that court jester mimic repeating mindlessly Now
I'm a simple girl, Now I'm a simple girl?
Enough already, we got it the first time; that was one among many simple minded poorly performed no class acts of the Union Activists & Company.
Really Embarrassing

Piqua, OH

#31 Jan 13, 2013
Nice wrote:
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I completely AGREE with this! The new board members were elected by the people to SERVE the people.It was clear at the meeting that the people did not want a charter school. It has also become increasingly clear that their is no leadership on this board. There should be one person who speaks for the school district, the Superintendent. It shows a lack of control from the BOE and a lack of respect for the Superintendent position when you have three board members either in the paper or on the news speaking about the school. All three were using the media for their own agenda and it is embarrassing to say the least. I too am a conservative and am disgusted by what I am seeing. Respect is earned by working with all parties over time, not demanded when it is obvious that it is an us against them mentality from the BOE. All three board members ran on fiscal responsibility and yet they want to start a charter school that will "hopefully break even" when there is a renter in the building and the school is making a profit. Programs are being examined for cuts, and yet they are voting on spending 15,000 for a charter school that the public does not support. I repeat, respect is earned...
If the BOE feels the "gifted students" are not challenged enough, then they need to enhance the current curriculum to address this, not start another school that is competition with the current schools. Bottom line is you will be treated with respect when you respect your positions and let the Superintendent do the job you hired him to do. It is his job to see what is not working and come up with ideas to solve the issues. It is your job to support him. Please stop using the BOE as a platform for your personal agendas. You are making our community look as dysfunctional as the government.
Above post states: "It is his job to see what is not working and come up with ideas to solve the issues. It is your job to support him."

Attention: The school superintendent works for the board; not the other way around. Where have you been since David Baker left employment as school superiintendent? That was David Baker's old way of doing business with previously elected board members, till 2010 when Dr. Kohls came on board asking questions in the best interest of our school children and community; and that led to shining the light on a whole mess of school district financial mismanagement; from faking school budget crisis to promote levies all the way into stealing our kids pay to play sports fees for individual sports coaches financial gain.

Now, Don Miller is the only current board member who was one of the original five who actually did work for the superintendent.
Just one more example of Don Miller's absolutely no growth in leadership skills and broader vision of our children's future challenges now, than his same old tunnel vision gained from that Ohio school board association training board members that they work for the school superintendent and that they should do all that the superintendent tells them to do.

That's why Don Miller votes against our children's best interest first; he still clings to the old status quo Baker way of voting the unions financial self-interest first; Now Don Miller is serving on Mr. Petrey's District Parent Council Committee because his efforts are still swayed toward promoting levies for the union working for the superintendents levy ladies just like the good old boy days when Baker ruled.....
Spend 15000

Tipp City, OH

#32 Jan 13, 2013
Uno Voter wrote:
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No disrespect to your opinion; but your post is only your opinion.
Each school district voter has right to our own opinion (which is based on several factors of personal life experiences).
Since there is no such thing as Impartial; each voter has the responsibility of examining our own convictions and basic values beliefs; and then take a stand on either the right side with conservative voters; or the left side with liberal union activists voters.
There is no middle ground in this school district's class warfare,(the Takers trying to force more money from the Makers of the money) waged by the Springboro Education Association's community activism groups, against our community of taxpaying homeowners who are already heavily burdened with the cost of education in the public schools.
So get used to it, SEA, because here is one conservative voter who is just as passionate about my Right to Work in my own best interest to STOP tax increases on my family's home; as my liberal neighbors wearing the Union label are passionate about taking away my Right to Work.
Now, shall we all shake hands and get to work changing the hostile attacks on the characters of conservative school board members?
We have an important renewal levy coming up and all Springboro community members should have the opportunity to attend public school board discussions on how the board will spend our money; without listening to 30 minutes of rallying the creepy cult-like worship of Springboro teachers.
Your turn union activists -- batter up!
Conservative? Right to work?
Self motivated personal agendas at work here. There will be no trust as long as there is no collaboration between everyone.
Sounds like spend is hidden in conservative clothing?
The proof is in the doing not the rhetoric.
Wonderful Wonderful

Piqua, OH

#33 Jan 13, 2013
Move wrote:
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That's funny I am a Springboro parent and everyone in my section, including myself was there to support our wonderful teachers. Are you sure we were at the same meeting?
Our teachers are wonderful and all our kids are gifted and all union activists demand a union teacher in their gifted kids' classroom....but folks, what about these academic achievement ratings putting the stink in our excellent distinction?
Just Watching wrote:
Go to page 12 and see how our kids are really doing.
http://www.oagc.com/files/OAGC_Grading_On_A_C ...
See the definition and range of Proficient, Accelerated, and Advanced.
See if you agree with the state's labeling program of academic achievement.
Note also that the INDICATORS on the district report card that we so assuredly point to as proof of our excellence, mean nothing more than you had 75% or more of your students rated above Proficient.
Each subject tested in each grade test is an INDICATOR, there are 26 INDICATORS you must attain. 24 of the 26 regard having 75% of your students attain Proficient rating.
To be labeled as Proficient in Reading in the 6th grade you had to get at least 35% of the questions correct. 35%= Proficient
And if 75% of your students get at least 35% correct answers on the test, your school is granted another INDICATOR point.
The worst is Math, in the 7th grade, 32% correct answers are required to be considered Proficient. 32%= Proficient
And if 75% of your students get at least 32% correct answers on the test, your school is granted another INDICATOR point.
We should educate ourselves on these willful obfuscations and demand better.
Worth Repeating

Piqua, OH

#34 Jan 13, 2013
pay attention wrote:
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Try to pay closer attention next time. This school board isn't "stifling" anyone. The stiflers I saw Thursday night were a CERTAIN group of teachers who expressed quite adamantly that their union's agenda must always remain front and center in our lives.
Blue Ribbon Award!

Thank You.
And here we go

Tipp City, OH

#35 Jan 13, 2013
Really Embarrassing wrote:
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Above post states: "It is his job to see what is not working and come up with ideas to solve the issues. It is your job to support him."
Attention: The school superintendent works for the board; not the other way around. Where have you been since David Baker left employment as school superiintendent? That was David Baker's old way of doing business with previously elected board members, till 2010 when Dr. Kohls came on board asking questions in the best interest of our school children and community; and that led to shining the light on a whole mess of school district financial mismanagement; from faking school budget crisis to promote levies all the way into stealing our kids pay to play sports fees for individual sports coaches financial gain.
Now, Don Miller is the only current board member who was one of the original five who actually did work for the superintendent.
Just one more example of Don Miller's absolutely no growth in leadership skills and broader vision of our children's future challenges now, than his same old tunnel vision gained from that Ohio school board association training board members that they work for the school superintendent and that they should do all that the superintendent tells them to do.
That's why Don Miller votes against our children's best interest first; he still clings to the old status quo Baker way of voting the unions financial self-interest first; Now Don Miller is serving on Mr. Petrey's District Parent Council Committee because his efforts are still swayed toward promoting levies for the union working for the superintendents levy ladies just like the good old boy days when Baker ruled.....
Waste! Waste! Waste!

Here are the questions to ask:

Why do we have a superintendent? Why are we paying him $130,000 a year for 5 YEARS? If the BOE wants a puppet buy a puppet for a lot less.

It's apparent the current majority BOE experts can do things better so let them teach? Discipline? Insure Safety? Dictate curriculum?

Get rid of all the so called "DEAD WEIGHT" in all these positions =$$$$ saved. But, the BOE better not take a dime more as per their personal agendas and stances.

The reason why the BOE hasn't done that yet is, they can't. They just want to quiet us down and spew the same old stuff that is churned on these blogs.

AGAIN, get the tapes of the 2nd half of the meeting. IT WILL BLOW YOUR MINDS AT THE LEVEL OF CONDEMNATION AND RIDICULOUSNESS THIS BOARD HAS RESORTED TO. All in the name of, "YOU WILL RESPECT OUR AUTHORITY."
BoroWise

Piqua, OH

#36 Jan 13, 2013
Same old boring song wrote:
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Here we go, I have got the same type of person that closes their eyes and spouts the same boring quotes over and over. Either A, you were not at the meeting and are without a clue or B, are clueless because just like the board refuse to listen and open up you mind to ideas FROM THE COMMUNITY AND PROFESSIONALS. The FOOL FOLLOWS fools over the cliff, the smart one asks questions and avoids the danger.
We see the side you fall on...
AGAIN...EVERYONE WHO LEFT EARLY SHOULD GET THE TAPE AND LISTEN TO THE LAST HALF OF THE MEETING...
It makes for sad but laughable moments.
Oh, by the way...if you play it backwards Mr Petroni still goes without friends and Mr Riganos news conferences are still damaging to our school district!
Hey good neighbor, the real damage to our school district is uneducated fools such as you project yourself to be same old boring stuff!
Are you really that foolish; or just practicing for the next performance of dumb and dumber, bullying and ridiculing those whose broader vision of our children's future is way beyond your narrow-minded tunnel vision. You can do better for yourself.
Now stop acting foolish and try to educate yourself to the real challenge that our school district students are facing.
Just Watching wrote:
Go to page 12 and see how our kids are really doing.
http://www.oagc.com/files/OAGC_Grading_On_A_C ...
See the definition and range of Proficient, Accelerated, and Advanced.
See if you agree with the state's labeling program of academic achievement.
Note also that the INDICATORS on the district report card that we so assuredly point to as proof of our excellence, mean nothing more than you had 75% or more of your students rated above Proficient.
Each subject tested in each grade test is an INDICATOR, there are 26 INDICATORS you must attain. 24 of the 26 regard having 75% of your students attain Proficient rating.
To be labeled as Proficient in Reading in the 6th grade you had to get at least 35% of the questions correct. 35%= Proficient
And if 75% of your students get at least 35% correct answers on the test, your school is granted another INDICATOR point.
The worst is Math, in the 7th grade, 32% correct answers are required to be considered Proficient. 32%= Proficient
And if 75% of your students get at least 32% correct answers on the test, your school is granted another INDICATOR point.
We should educate ourselves on these willful obfuscations and demand better.
Reality Bytes

Piqua, OH

#37 Jan 13, 2013
Get Real wrote:
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Amazing. Same old song and dance??? Next gonna ask about socialist tendencies?
$15000 is saving tax dollars...
Kinda sounds like self serving interests if you ask me...?
certainly worth repeating wrote:
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When levies are the topic of discussion, money is no object, we can easily afford to spend $57,000 trying to pass levies.
When kids futures are in play, money is too valuable to spend on investigating alternatives to places where more than a third of the students are failing.
Who could have seen that one coming.
If union activist board member Don Miller thinks it too expensive to invest $15,000 in a feasibility study of our kids higher achievements in education, then he should take a look at the price of his tunnel vision ignorance of "alls ima sayin is we should just table the vote for higher achievements.."
Please tell the truth wrote:
Just Watching wrote:
Grade 6 Cut Scores and Scoring Bands on the 2011 OAA tests
Reading
Advanced.......76%-100%
Accelerated.....61%-75%
Proficient.........35%-60%
If a student was able to answer 17 out of 49 questions correctly they were deemed Proficient in Reading.
Springboro had 172 students out of 502 students in the 6th grade class fall in the Proficient or below category
Math
Advanced.......68%-100%
Accelerated....58%-67%
Proficient........40%-57%
If a student was able to answer 20 out of 50 questions correctly they were deemed Proficient in Math.
Springboro had 127 students our of 502 students in the 6th grade class falling in the Proficient or below category.
How many were Proficient or below in both categories?
Page 12
http://www.oagc.com/file/OAGC_Grading_On_A_C ...
Wait, you mean that my child that is "Proficient" in several categories on these exams actually Failed these categories,and the truth is that we call that good and give it no attention? Are you telling me that this is acceptable in all schools?
I can't believe that. We celebrate failing grades on these exams. OK but don't we have 5% of our students that are special needs and on IEP's so why would we have over 30% of our students failing (D or below) these exams. Do we actually have over 30% special needs and as I hear, 40% gifted? That means we have 30% in the middle?
On and On

Tiffin, OH

#38 Jan 13, 2013
BoroWise wrote:
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Hey good neighbor, the real damage to our school district is uneducated fools such as you project yourself to be same old boring stuff!
Are you really that foolish; or just practicing for the next performance of dumb and dumber, bullying and ridiculing those whose broader vision of our children's future is way beyond your narrow-minded tunnel vision. You can do better for yourself.
Now stop acting foolish and try to educate yourself to the real challenge that our school district students are facing.
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I have never once said that improvements aren't in dire need of being made. But, that has nothing to do with news conferences on 2nd amendment issues. Get over yourself and looking at what we agree on and look at what is right in front of your face.

It's easy to quote our needs and the ADMINISTRATION is working on those needs. But there needs to be trust in them to do their jobs

OR

THE BOE CAN DO IT. With their egos who knows.
Boro Boo Hoo Hoo

Piqua, OH

#39 Jan 13, 2013
Amazing Ignorance wrote:
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It is amazing the pointed comments that can be cast. It's all Don Miller's fault for everything. It's Don Miller's fault for athletics? It's Don Miller's fault for Jonathan Wright being empty? It's Don Miller's fault for gun control? It's Don Miller's fault for salaries being at their current levels? It's Don Miller's fault that Supt Todd Petrey won't throw the teachers under the bus? It's Don Miller's fault that we need to pass the renewal levy this year or next?
Don Miller sounds like he might have the answers to all based on everything he has been blamed for. Amazing power Don.
If he interchanged the words emergency and renewal, so what? We all know what needs to be done.
GLADLY VOTE NO if you don't care whether your kids can go to school. You might find padlocks on the doors. Now that might be the dream of a few of the BOE members, but to this parent would be a sad day for our community.
What a silly post of amazing ignorance ...
and a boo hoo here and one over there for a sad day in the community.
Indeed we all know what needs to be done, but Don Miller is too lazy and too uncaring about our children's future that he just keeps arguing that everything's fine so why should he grow in leadership skills and broader vision?
Miller has been on the board so long that our children's best interest for the future has just become a by-product of his real interest of union activisim.
Now don't take offense to seeing Don Miller the way others see him. Union activists are just people; not education gods to be worshipped.
Higher Ground

Piqua, OH

#40 Jan 13, 2013
And here we go wrote:
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Waste! Waste! Waste!
Here are the questions to ask:
Why do we have a superintendent? Why are we paying him $130,000 a year for 5 YEARS? If the BOE wants a puppet buy a puppet for a lot less.
It's apparent the current majority BOE experts can do things better so let them teach? Discipline? Insure Safety? Dictate curriculum?
Get rid of all the so called "DEAD WEIGHT" in all these positions =$$$$ saved. But, the BOE better not take a dime more as per their personal agendas and stances.
The reason why the BOE hasn't done that yet is, they can't. They just want to quiet us down and spew the same old stuff that is churned on these blogs.
AGAIN, get the tapes of the 2nd half of the meeting. IT WILL BLOW YOUR MINDS AT THE LEVEL OF CONDEMNATION AND RIDICULOUSNESS THIS BOARD HAS RESORTED TO. All in the name of, "YOU WILL RESPECT OUR AUTHORITY."
Just Count to 10 and relax.. all those caps and quotes indicate increasing stress... breath deeply...

Now we get it that you have blown your mind with all this jeering and sneering at the second half of the meeting. Just want to tell you my friend that I listened quietly to everything that was said and all I heard board member Mr. Petroni say was nothing but simply stating the facts of his board comments summary (which we all know Mr. Petroni has expertise in doing so well, either calmly or emphatically which ever is needed to get across needed talking points).

My next point:(and I will walk through this with you very slowly)

did you hear other board members' closing comments?

did you hear one board member say that we should treat others in the same kind way that we would like others to treat us?

(Now I don't know if this is working for you, but I am beginning to think of you as a fellow human being that has feelings just like me).

Picture yourself (or even your child) at work or at play or at school being treated with unkind jeering in the same unkind way in which you are jeering at others on this blog.

Now if you cannot feel any emotional discomfort that what you are doing is hurtful to another human being who has feeling just like you and those you love, then you need to talk to a family member who loves you about your inability to feel emphathy, or go talk to a specialist in mental health care.

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