Ambulance, fire levy sparks debate in Ohio

Feb 1, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: EMS1

CLEARCREEK TWP., Ohio - Trustees in Clearcreek Twp. - third among 11 Warren County townships in net property taxes - disagree about asking voters for an additional 4.5-mill levy to fund fire protection and ambulance services.

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The Whole Truth wrote:
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Don't be silly. First of all, It was the Clearcreek Township fiscal officer who spoke up in protection of township homeowners who are being overtaxed. And don't argue that the "minutes" state otherwise. Those of us who were eye witnesses at the public meeting (seeing Mr. Pickett put on his little "magic" show making the big surplus of over-collected taxes disappear) know the whole truth....And it was only ONE of our trustees who truthfully voted
Hmmm....why would we cloud the situation with the FACTS of the MINUTES...let's go on biased hearsay instead. NO THANKS!

Anspach voted down your beloved tax holiday - read it for yourself!!
http://www.clearcreektownship.com/FiscalOffic...
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Hmmm....why would we cloud the situation with the FACTS of the MINUTES...let's go on biased hearsay instead. NO THANKS!
Anspach voted down your beloved tax holiday - read it for yourself!!
http://www.clearcreektownship.com/FiscalOffic...
"hearsay"...bullshit ...Lamb has said this...don't try to play damage control...
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The Whole Truth wrote:
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Don't be silly. First of all, It was the Clearcreek Township fiscal officer who spoke up in protection of township homeowners who are being overtaxed. And don't argue that the "minutes" state otherwise. Those of us who were eye witnesses at the public meeting (seeing Mr. Pickett put on his little "magic" show making the big surplus of over-collected taxes disappear) know the whole truth....And it was only ONE of our trustees who truthfully voted No Tax Increase on our homes; but yes to cutting expenses.
Now we just have to spread the whole truth that voters need to take the good advice of the one truthful trustee, and support voting No New Taxes and vote yes to cutting expenses.
No matter what party, here we have TWO WISE WOMEN in our local government leadership being bullied by the "good old boys" in efforts to send a loud message for this year's election: Don't crash our party; or we'll TRASH your reputation.
Don't be fooled by the union bullydogs bark....It's not as bad as allowing the government to take another big bite of our hard-earned money.
I love it,doctored minutes! Let us see, Oda claims the surplus, admits a math error and she is the one that makes up the minutes. So you trust her enough on a surplus, but not enough to type minutes? Remember only use parts of the truth, the whole truth would hurt you.
Oda and Anspach trash their own rep. It is time for them to be removed from office. Out with trash= out with Oda and Anspach
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focus wrote:
BTW, Lamb, it is said is have inherited one million dollars from a customer of his lawn cutting business.
You should see the pictures of Oda, Anspach, and Sen Jones sitting together at the Golden Corral...all gorged and giggly about how fiscally conservative it was to get 20,000 calories for $9.99!
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I love it,doctored minutes! Let us see, Oda claims the surplus, admits a math error and she is the one that makes up the minutes. So you trust her enough on a surplus, but not enough to type minutes? Remember only use parts of the truth, the whole truth would hurt you.
Oda and Anspach trash their own rep. It is time for them to be removed from office. Out with trash= out with Oda and Anspach
the only trash here is mostly at the township office...Wade, Gabbard, Pickett, and let's not forget our own "silver star" hero, Agenbroad !
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BTW, public record, it is duly noted you are all over the place with your alaiases...like "let's talk truth"...you are such a fraud.
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"hearsay"...bullshit ...Lamb has said this...don't try to play damage control...
Why would anyone care? Oh....yeah...they don't.
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You should see the pictures of Oda, Anspach, and Sen Jones sitting together at the Golden Corral...all gorged and giggly about how fiscally conservative it was to get 20,000 calories for $9.99!
public record, this has to be the dumbest post yet..your wade group is imploding. please posting dumb crap like this...it makes things better for the general public.
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The hate is all over the place, I'm sure some deserved, some maybe not so much.
The fact is our safety is important and a few cents a day is a small price to pay for our fire department.
Say yes to 3!
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The hate is all over the place, I'm sure some deserved, some maybe not so much.
The fact is our safety is important and a few cents a day is a small price to pay for our fire department.
Say yes to 3!
WHATEVER PUBLIC RECORD...VOTE NO AND SAVE YOUR HARD EARNED DOLLARS.
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A YES vote on Issue 3 will allow the Clearcreek Fire District to continue providing professional 24/7 emergency protection to Springboro and Clearcreek Township. The Clearcreek Fire District is currently operating on funding from a 2001 tax levy. In 2001, the department served approximately 24,000 people and responded to 1,584 emergencies. Today, the department serves approximately 47,674 people and responded to 2,735 emergencies in 2012. The fact is simple - the fire department cannot provide adequate service to a growing population with the current funding.

In 2001 the Clearcreek Fire District promised not to come back to voters for additional funds for at least ten years. That promise has been kept, and as we look forward we commit to the voters not to seek additional operating funds for a period of at least seven years if this levy is approved.

Learn the facts at http://www.yesto3.com .
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A YES vote on Issue 3 will allow the Clearcreek Fire District to continue providing professional 24/7 emergency protection to Springboro and Clearcreek Township. The Clearcreek Fire District is currently operating on funding from a 2001 tax levy. In 2001, the department served approximately 24,000 people and responded to 1,584 emergencies. Today, the department serves approximately 47,674 people and responded to 2,735 emergencies in 2012. The fact is simple - the fire department cannot provide adequate service to a growing population with the current funding.
In 2001 the Clearcreek Fire District promised not to come back to voters for additional funds for at least ten years. That promise has been kept, and as we look forward we commit to the voters not to seek additional operating funds for a period of at least seven years if this levy is approved.
Learn the facts at http://www.yesto3.com .
The fact is simple -- More people to Serve in 2013 equals More people paying taxes in 2013. Whatever promises happened between the government and the voters in 2001 is way outdated; and a promise from the government is NO reason for the township government to try bullying for increased taxes, on the basis of a promise. Township government needs to cut expenses before asking taxed enough already homeowners for new money. But township leaders are NOT going to go there, until ALL threats against homeowners are tested by just saying NO NEW TAXES in May.

We have full confidence that our Township Government Leaders are not so weak minded as to be helpless to do their jobs protecting the people IF they don't get their Wade Way Fix at the polls on May 7. We support voting No New Taxes and Cutting Expenses!
Please join us in keeping our family homes SAFE and AFFORDABLE!
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Public Record wrote:
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Hmmm....why would we cloud the situation with the FACTS of the MINUTES...let's go on biased hearsay instead. NO THANKS!
Anspach voted down your beloved tax holiday - read it for yourself!!
http://www.clearcreektownship.com/FiscalOffic...
Dayton Daily News
CLEARCREEK TWP., Ohio Trustees in Clearcreek Twp.- third among 11 Warren County townships in net property taxes - disagree about asking voters for an additional 4.5-mill levy to fund fire protection and ambulance services.
Still, the trustees voted 2-1 on Thursday to ask voters to approve a continuing 4.5-mill property tax levy expected to raise about $4.4 million a year on the May 7 ballot.

ONE CLEAR FACT -- Anspach is the only ONE of the trustees who voted NO, stating that expenses should be cut FIRST.

Homeowners cannot afford to ignore the clear fact that our township government does not need to increase our taxes in order to provide needed public services; but the government needs to better manage our tax dollars and cut expenses. Just vote NO on May 7th to the unnecessary Increased Taxes of hundreds of dollars on our family homes.
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The fact is simple -- More people to Serve in 2013 equals More people paying taxes in 2013. Whatever promises happened between the government and the voters in 2001 is way outdated; and a promise from the government is NO reason for the township government to try bullying for increased taxes, on the basis of a promise.
The tax money that a levy draws is the same the day it dies as it was the day it was voted in. That's in Government 101. If they moved in after 2001, more people does not mean more money to pay for government services, just more demand for those services. This levy resets that disproportion, which is one of the main reasons I support it.

The promise in 2001 was that they would be good stewards of our money, and make it last at least 10 years. It lasted 12, so I think that's pretty good, considering what goes on at other levels of government.
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One Clear Fact wrote:
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ONE CLEAR FACT -- Anspach is the only ONE of the trustees who voted NO, stating that expenses should be cut FIRST.
Check the facts...she initially voted for it, then changed her mind, in classic Anspach fashion. The same way she did with the tax holiday and so many other issues...all over the road.
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Check the facts...she initially voted for it, then changed her mind, in classic Anspach fashion. The same way she did with the tax holiday and so many other issues...all over the road.
Who Cares About Your Facts? Who Cares About Your Public Record trashing Anspach? Get over yourself!

This May 7th vote is all about whether or not homeowners will agree to vote themselves hundreds of dollars of increased taxes on their homes! And the ONE CLEAR FACT is that we each have ONE CLEAR VOICE to promote NO NEW TAXES! Just say No!
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The tax money that a levy draws is the same the day it dies as it was the day it was voted in. That's in Government 101. If they moved in after 2001, more people does not mean more money to pay for government services, just more demand for those services. This levy resets that disproportion, which is one of the main reasons I support it.
The promise in 2001 was that they would be good stewards of our money, and make it last at least 10 years. It lasted 12, so I think that's pretty good, considering what goes on at other levels of government.
And I do not support voting hundreds of dollars of tax increases on my family home, cutting needed services for my family out of my household budget, just because the township government needs an EASY FIX.

ONE CLEAR FACT IS ALL WE NEED TO REMEMBER:
VOTE NO TAX INCREASE ON OUR HOUSEHOLD BUDGETS
AND ALLOW OPPORTUNITY FOR TOWNSHIP GOVERNMENT TO CUT EXPENSES.
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You should see the pictures of Oda, Anspach, and Sen Jones sitting together at the Golden Corral...all gorged and giggly about how fiscally conservative it was to get 20,000 calories for $9.99!
This is typical sneering and jeering behavior of the union goons with camera in hand, stalking, spying and preying upon Totally Engaged Americans, whether male or female, with a non-union mindset of Fiscal responsibility...Limited Government...Free Markets...
Liberal union goons think only collectively for government empowerment of forced unionism for job security; intimidated by those individuals with critical thinking skills taking responsibility of their own destiny.
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Easy there focus...

COMMON SENSE = YES ON 3!
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Just The Facts wrote:
The hate is all over the place, I'm sure some deserved, some maybe not so much.
The fact is our safety is important and a few cents a day is a small price to pay for our fire department.
Say yes to 3!
Why Blind Yourself to the facts:

A Few Cents a day is a Small Cut in Clearcreek Township Government Expenses to services to the public.

Why should homeowners increase our taxes hundreds of dollars per year, when the government could just cut this added expense of
"a few cents a day?".... as you say they need to collect?
Why not look past your tunnel vision?

Vote No to Tax Increases.
Vote Yes to the government cutting expenses.

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