'No, no, no, no' to trash fee - Senti...

'No, no, no, no' to trash fee - Sentinel & Enterprise

There are 77 comments on the Sentinel & Enterprise story from May 21, 2008, titled 'No, no, no, no' to trash fee - Sentinel & Enterprise. In it, Sentinel & Enterprise reports that:

About 85 residents assembled outside City Hall Tuesday night before a City Council meeting to show their opposition to a proposed "pay-as-you-throw" trash program city officials are considering.

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give it a break

Lakeville, CT

#62 May 23, 2008
just another post wrote:
I have read all of the posts and what people don't seem to concerned with, is the fee is charging us twice for services already paid for. Would you pay for your cup of coffee twice? How about your groceries? "It is just $100, or amounts to $2 per week", yes this year. What about the next years, when the city has become dependent on this fee, spends beyond its means AGAIN and raises it to $150, then $200 and you can be sure that the bags will increase as well. I have a family of 4, I throw out on average 1 kitchen sized bag of trash per week and recycle all of the rest. I'm sure there are others that do the same, why should I have to pay ADDITIONAL for something that I already do? It is the old mentality punish the group to send a message to a few. The parties proposing this program made a mistake of trying to pass it off as a "greener" program when it was already publicly identified as a fee. Put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig.
In watching the city councilor meeting, there was mention of a new health insurance plan being offered to the city employees. Explain to me that if this city is a "business" as people have been referring, why isn't the city telling its employees that times are tough and here is your new health plan. Then find one that is alot less expensive to save the city money? In the meeting it was stated that 11 out of the 1100 employees were considering it. 11!! Working in the private sector if a health plan becomes too expensive, or, there are less expensive ones available, that's what is offered. No apologies. Why can't the city look into that and save some money?
Times are tough, but if a household cannot make ends meet, they can't just go into work and demand more money, they have to budget better. That means cutting things that they are used to and sometimes need, then readjusting their life styles.
I agree that Lisa Wong has a tough job ahead of her, I also agree that it cannot be fixed in one year. If the city really needs this money, then it should be put to a vote that every city citizen can speak on. Then if you don't use your voice either for or against it, then shame on you.
The city council has to vote on raising the fee. The reality is that we can't expect that anything will be the same price 5 yrs. from now. Inflation, higher fuel prices and the natural progression of life dictates the cost. Hell the canadian dollar is worth more than the US. We may never see the pre 9/11 lifestyle we're use to.
just me

AOL

#63 May 23, 2008
Can anyone tell me how the city will know who payed the 100 and who didnt on trash day? Also, what about people who have well and septic, how will they be billed?
Deb

AOL

#64 May 23, 2008
just me wrote:
Can anyone tell me how the city will know who payed the 100 and who didnt on trash day? Also, what about people who have well and septic, how will they be billed?
I really don't know and think they ONLY persons who should be eligible to opt/out should be apartment/condo owners who actually have a dumpster on site for their tenants.
Other than that, lets get on with it.
give it a break

Lakeville, CT

#66 May 23, 2008
just me wrote:
Can anyone tell me how the city will know who payed the 100 and who didnt on trash day? Also, what about people who have well and septic, how will they be billed?
Because those properties pay property tax. So they are already in the database.
all_done

United States

#67 May 24, 2008
judge and jury wrote:
People Its $100 bucks!!!!!!!!!! 25 bucks every 3 months haha, im sure if you dig deep you can budget it
Well, seeing your so rich you pay the bills we can't afford. You must have it you act like it's nothing but along with the water electric gas ect. ect. it't just not that easy. So judge and jury put your!!! money where your mouth is and you pay the bills.
Tim

AOL

#68 May 24, 2008
all_done wrote:
<quoted text>Well, seeing your so rich you pay the bills we can't afford. You must have it you act like it's nothing but along with the water electric gas ect. ect. it't just not that easy. So judge and jury put your!!! money where your mouth is and you pay the bills.
Give me a break! Its $2.00 per week. You can't compare this to you electric or water bill. Come on, two dollars?
DJB

Swampscott, MA

#70 May 24, 2008
It's not just $2 a week, that only covers the $100. There's still the cost of bags. $1.75 per bag and those you have kids in diapers or large families can use several per week. I know that's still not a huge amount of money but for some families who are just getting by it could hurt them.

“I'm a Fitchburger and Proud ”

Since: Jan 08

Fitchburg ( of course)

#71 May 24, 2008
Delmar wrote:
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The real problem in this country is education....its Iraq....not Irac. If the population could spell then maybe they could learn to balance a checkbook.
Hmm, Misspellings. I'm sure we won't see many more of those with the LIBRARY closing and all.
skeptik

Peabody, MA

#72 May 24, 2008
Seems people still can't accept the fact that the city is broke. No trash fee will mean cuts somewhere else. You don't want that either. Well, someone has to come up with some ideas instead of just complaining. This woman was elected on the idea that she could help the city out of its financial mess. Well you have to give a little to get a little in a situation like this. Want more DPW cuts, More Police and Fire cuts? The cost of fuel is through the roof, the trash trucks aren't pulled by mules. Come on people, stop whining and try to be part of the solution instead of the problem.
Mark Seiler

Townsend, MA

#73 May 24, 2008
Exactly. Thank you. When income (taxes)'only'(a bad word) increase 2 1/2 % per year, and expenses (salaries, fuel, etc) increase 4 or 5 or 20% a year, only a dolt would complain about cuts to services or increases to taxes... c'mon people, this is a very simple math problem... are there any 8th graders out there who can help us? Ha ha.(This is NOT funny)
give it a break

Lakeville, CT

#74 May 24, 2008
The trash fee needs to pass and we need to accept it. From this point on, we need to be more vigilant of the city's spending and not allow the misspending of the past.
SAF

West Barnstable, MA

#75 May 28, 2008
Every time you impose new tax to the homeowner, the renters also have to pay for it. My landlord almost always goes up on the rent to offset his cost.And, you wonder why there are more homeless, and more crime. We can barely affoerd the rent now!!
wickedpissa

Worcester, MA

#76 May 28, 2008
Gomer Pile wrote:
Fitchburg people make me laugh. A no to the trash program means cuts to other more important services like PD and FD. Or maybe the mayor will just close the library and take the 350K so the cuts are not so bad.
I'm gonna put on my ESP cap and predict that you people bitching about the trash program will be equally bitchy when the cuts in police, fire, and library begin to affect you.
You are the same people that think when a car dealer offers you $2000 cash for your crappy POS Ford Escort with 465,000 miles that he's doing you a favor. Nothing is free in this world.
Bottom line is that 100 million +/- bucks is available to spend...you gotta squeeze it all in somehow. The mayor has cut up the city's credit cards!
yeah, we are all so stupid and naive in Fitchburg.

Why not just open your pockets when city/state/federal government says they want you to pay for the same thing twice? And why not have to pay $0.75-$1.25 to the city for each trashbag? Its so much easier than just going to walmart or target and paying pennies for them there.

No, this is going to solve all our problems. And plus, when we're not in such a dire situation from a budgetary perspective, I'm sure they will do away with the Pay As You Throw program and go back to only making us pay once a year for it, right?
wickedpissa

Worcester, MA

#77 May 28, 2008
skeptik wrote:
Seems people still can't accept the fact that the city is broke. No trash fee will mean cuts somewhere else. You don't want that either. Well, someone has to come up with some ideas instead of just complaining. This woman was elected on the idea that she could help the city out of its financial mess. Well you have to give a little to get a little in a situation like this. Want more DPW cuts, More Police and Fire cuts? The cost of fuel is through the roof, the trash trucks aren't pulled by mules. Come on people, stop whining and try to be part of the solution instead of the problem.
You're right, the cost of fuel is through the roof. The cost of food is rising at the highest level in decades. We are in the middle of a pretty bad recession. I don't know about you, but I locked in at $2.54/gal for home heating oil last year and it still took us 8 months to get that balance paid off. What do you think it will cost this year? All of OUR COSTS are rising very quickly too, and OUR REVENUE is not increasing proportionately either. So what do WE do? We ADJUST OUR BUDGETS and our LIFESTYLES accordingly. We don't just go to our employer and tell them to give us more $$ because times are tough.
And what does she want to do with the revenue from this one proposal? Save a few more positions in the PD and FD, yes, but also EXPAND THE PAYROLL FOR CITY EMPLOYEES. More healthcare costs, more pensions, etc.
Resident

Medford, MA

#78 May 28, 2008
What about the residents of Victoria Lane? We had to pay full taxes for nearly three years and didn't get trash pickup yet paid for it. The city can take the taxes I paid for pickup the last three years and cram it up their unorganized a**es.
SAF

United States

#79 Jun 4, 2008
All the people in Fitchburg can get involved all they want about any issue, but, it seems that the new Mayor that you all voted for,could care less about anyone, but trying to make herself look good. But,is she REALLY?? Alot of folks I speak with have a really, really, bad feeling. Hold on we are in for a bumpy ride with this one!!
Boulder

Fitchburg, MA

#80 Jun 26, 2012
no dumping

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