NYC policeman convicted in cannibal-plot case
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#1 Mar 12, 2013
NYC policeman convicted in cannibal-plot case
New York City police Officer Gilberto Valle with his daughter.(ASSOCIATED PRESS FILE PHOTO)
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NEW YORK — A New York City police officer was convicted Tuesday of charges he plotted to kidnap and cook women to dine on their "girl meat" — a macabre case that subjected jurors to often gory evidence and asked them to separate fantasy from reality.
The jury reached the verdict in federal court at the kidnapping conspiracy trial of Officer Gilberto Valle, a 28-year-old father with an admitted fetish for talking on the Internet about cannibalism.
Valle's lawyers at what the tabloids dubbed the "Cannibal Cop" trial chose not to hide what they called his "weird proclivities." But they insisted that he was just fantasizing and noted that none of the women were ever harmed.
Valle bowed his head and looked teary-eyed when the verdict was announced. He hugged his lawyer, Julia Gatto, who said later that she had been crying.
"It's a devastating verdict for us. We poured our hearts and souls into this," said Gatto.
"The jury was unable to get past the thoughts," Gatto said. "Obviously, the case involved thoughts that were unusual and bizarre and frankly very ugly."
Valle's mother, Elizabeth, shook her head as the verdict was rendered.
"I'm in shock and want to be left alone," she said after her son was led away. She said to herself as she sat on a court bench alone: "This is going to kill my mother."
Prosecutors declined comment.
Valle faces up to life in prison when he is sentenced on June 19.
The defense team said it would ask the judge to set aside the verdict. Defense attorney Robert Baum said the verdict set a "dangerous precedent."
"People can be prosecuted for their thoughts and convicted," he said.
Prosecutors countered that an analysis of Valle's computer found he was taking concrete steps to abduct his wife and at least five other women he knew. They said he looked up potential targets on a restricted law enforcement database, searched the Internet for how to knock someone out with chloroform, and showed up on the block of one woman after agreeing to kidnap her for $5,000 for a New Jersey man, now awaiting trial.
Valle "left the world of fantasy and entered the world of reality," prosecutor Hadassa Waxman said during closing arguments. She said the officer's arrest near Halloween last year interrupted a ghoulish plan to "kidnap, torture, rape and commit other horrific acts on young women."
The jury, which deliberated for just over two days, heard Valle's potential victims testify that they were trading innocent-sounding emails and texts with him, unaware he was supposedly scheming to make meals out of them. The government also sought to drive home the point that Valle was more of a threat because he was a police officer.
The trial opened a window on strange online underworld where people share sick and twisted fantasies of torture, murder, dismemberment and cannibalism.
#2 Mar 12, 2013
At first I was like, this is his free speech rights! This quoted part is what shocked me:
"Prosecutors countered that an analysis of Valle's computer found he was taking concrete steps to abduct his wife and at least five other women he knew. They said he looked up potential targets on a restricted law enforcement database, searched the Internet for how to knock someone out with chloroform, and showed up on the block of one woman after agreeing to kidnap her for $5,000 for a New Jersey man, now awaiting trial."
What are people smoking? He needs shock treatments. Is there a group? This is just insane!
I agree with the fact that he didn't follow through so he should get sentenced for the conspirering portion only. But then they need to give he a very strict warning with like a five yr. sentence.
I agree that you cannot charge someone for "thinking" or for what you think that they are thinking! If you allowed this then people would be convicted for blinking too much!
He did do the research, he did conspire for a $5,000 payment; for this he should be sentenced. 5 to 8 yrs depending on the evidence of the actual conspirering.
#3 Mar 12, 2013
There is a fine line here that he crossed. There is the freedom of thought which movies are made out of:"The trial opened a window on strange online underworld where people share sick and twisted fantasies of torture, murder, dismemberment and cannibalism. "
I agree that these people need to be followed and closely watched like KKK groups and the like. And I agree once it turns into actual conspiracy to commit these crimes then jail is the only place for them.
The media is mixing words with evidence. The actually free thought and free expression is allowed but there seems to have been steps taken beyond these freedoms as it turned into conspiracy.
It is a fine line here but I think he crossed the line.
#4 Mar 13, 2013
More often than not, we all read over and over again when the police are involved in wrongdoing that it is explained as being a "training issue" by the police themselves. If the police out in LA for example; blast the living sh#t out of a pick up truck with two innocent elderly ladies in it; in a knee jerk reaction to the ex Officer Dormer mess; it is quickly dismissed as nothing more than a "training issue". If the Mass State Police somehow manage to beat a passenger in a vehicle to death at the site of a sobriety checkpoint; it is nothing more than a "training issue". If the Malborough police storm into the apartment of an innocent elderly man and somehow manage to shoot him to death in a botched raid on two extremely low level drug dealers; it is explained away as "the gun of the cop somehow discharged"; which is nothing more than a training issue. That's all. No real harm done in any of these examples.
Many other times; "job related stress" is explained away as being the cause for police wrongdoing. The wrongdoing cop is somehow not responsible for his behavior; "job related stress" is to blame. That is all there is to it.
So, knowing all of THAT; I strongly feel that when a cop decides that he wants to become a cannibal; it must simply be a case of a lack of training. Some good old fashioned police training is in order. That's all.
Or perhaps job related stress made this cop become a madman. That's all. He is not really responsible for his actions. The stress of being a cop is.
I say this cop should enjoy the same exact opportunities and perks as hundreds of our nation's cops are enjoying each year. Just dodge any responsibility at all and dismiss it as a training issue; or job related stress; or better yet; both.
I say spring this man immediately; reinstate him; give him his back pay; and then train him and give him some therapy for job related stress. He should not be singled out and treated any different than the rest of our nation's cops.
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