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It's too early to say whether any city employees can expect to lose their jobs for the next fiscal year, Mayor Lisa Wong said Wednesday, but significant cuts must be made to solve a $2.4 million budget deficit caused by rising health-care costs, pensions and utilities.

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sick and tired

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Feb 13, 2010
 
The senior center needs to go. Why can't they use some of the underutilized space in the library- they can hang around there and would allow the library to (maybe) survive the next round of budget cuts. That was being discussed last year but it was nixed by the senior center. So, what is more important- a library that can be used by the entire population or a center in an oversized building only used by some? Let's get creative, Fitchburg, or we'll lose what little services we have.
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#43
Feb 14, 2010
 
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So then lets move the Senior Center, not close it, to a more convenient and less expensive location. The former Woolworth store is empty and right next to a public parking lot for one idea.
Great Idea Or move them over to part of the old G.E building, very little rent, Or to the old Market Basket on water street
they do not need the old exspensive armory
Never mind what the seniors say just do it, If the Mayor really wanted to save money this could do it
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#44
Feb 14, 2010
 
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its time to do away with these pensions, anyone in the city 10 years or less vest out their pensions and put them in 401k's these pensions are DESTROYING the city, and its only going to get worse
I have to agree with the Judge on this one. The pension plan for city workers is way out of date. The city workers will fight this tooth and nail but the facts are the facts. The city specialy Fitchburg can no longer afford this inflated pensions. People are not dying at 60 and 65 like they were when these pensions were started. Anyone working in these jobs should stop and take a look at the real world going on all around them. Pensions for life are a thing of the past. But I also say due away with these pension in a fair way. And I agree anyone with 10 years or more should get their due but anyone under that to them you have to say the gravey train is over. Oh and by the way spare me the argument that in order to attract good talent these pensions are justified. Thats and argument now that is dead on arrival.
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#45
Feb 15, 2010
 
I didn't see anything in this article about shopping health care to save money. Hellooooo.
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Leominster, MA

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#46
Feb 16, 2010
 
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I didn't see anything in this article about shopping health care to save money. Hellooooo.
What do you think the mayor did all last year? Where were you when this was going on? Hellooooo
Really Fitchburg

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Feb 16, 2010
 
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It isn't like working in places like New York City or Los Angeles but can you predict when and where a police officer will be shot, stabbed, killed in a car accident or anything line of duty death. You can't and they can't. All I am saying is that being a police officer is a dangerous job no matter where you live or work. I know you must think of Fitchburg as a Mayberry or something which it is not. Fitchburg has had only two line of duty deaths in its history and hopefully it will stay that way. One was a traffic accident and the other Officer was struck by a train. In both cases they had their uniforms on and were performing their duties. Westminster P.D. has had two line of duty deaths. However they are more of a bedroom community than Fitchburg is and their population is only a fraction of Fitchburgs, however they had just as many line of duty deaths....see what I am saying...it is a dangerous job anywhere. Look at all the line of duty deaths suffered in NYC on 9/11. There were quite a few firefighters and police officers killed that day. Remember they were probably the only ones killed going into the building not trying to get out. Obviously your mind is where it is and I am waisting my time. If I may ask what is it that you do for a living. Just curious.
So what you are saying is that Fitchburg isn't statistically any more dangerous than Westminster, or even less dangerous because they have had very different population sizes. You keep making comparisons to large cities like NYC. More people worked at ground zero than will ever live in Fitchburg. You are comparing apples and oranges.
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Feb 16, 2010
 

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It is amazing that in spite of the fact that the cops and their faithful supporters are relentlessly trying to convince all of us that ALL cops are at a great risk of death while on the job; that in Fitchburg's entire history, only two cops total have died on the job. And, of course the two deaths were accident related (train mishap and apparently auto accident). You can bet your bottom dollar that in Fitchburg's entire history some Roofers; Electricians and Farm Workers (along with others) have died on the job. So, what makes the cops think that somehow they are at greater risk of death; when the actual facts don't support their argument?

Just for the record Folks; as near as I can tell the last two cops who died while on duty in Mass were David Zolendziewski of Holyoke who just died as a result of injuries that he sustained in a single car crash. He was apparently not responding to anything; he just slid on some ice while
driving his cruiser around. And, of course we have Mass State Trooper Captain Richard Cashin; who died in early 2009 as a result of injuries that he sustained in a single car crash that was not weather related. He was apparently driving to assist the Saugus PD in a routine; low level traffic stop of a 24 year old girl.

So, two cops have died here in Mass; on duty; in the last year. And, both of them victims of their own carelessness or errors in judgement while at the wheel of a vehicle. The same exact thing that happens to motorists everyday in America. But; somehow in a cops mind; when it happens to them there is something brave and heroic about it. When it happens to Joe or Jane Blow; they are simply people who crashed while not being careful at the wheel.

The cops and their faithful supporters have quite the talent for changing reality to suit their own agenda.
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Feb 16, 2010
 
Darn Tootin from W Newton wrote:
It is amazing that in spite of the fact that the cops and their faithful supporters are relentlessly trying to convince all of us that ALL cops are at a great risk of death while on the job; that in Fitchburg's entire history, only two cops total have died on the job. And, of course the two deaths were accident related (train mishap and apparently auto accident). You can bet your bottom dollar that in Fitchburg's entire history some Roofers; Electricians and Farm Workers (along with others) have died on the job. So, what makes the cops think that somehow they are at greater risk of death; when the actual facts don't support their argument?
Just for the record Folks; as near as I can tell the last two cops who died while on duty in Mass were David Zolendziewski of Holyoke who just died as a result of injuries that he sustained in a single car crash. He was apparently not responding to anything; he just slid on some ice while
driving his cruiser around. And, of course we have Mass State Trooper Captain Richard Cashin; who died in early 2009 as a result of injuries that he sustained in a single car crash that was not weather related. He was apparently driving to assist the Saugus PD in a routine; low level traffic stop of a 24 year old girl.
So, two cops have died here in Mass; on duty; in the last year. And, both of them victims of their own carelessness or errors in judgement while at the wheel of a vehicle. The same exact thing that happens to motorists everyday in America. But; somehow in a cops mind; when it happens to them there is something brave and heroic about it. When it happens to Joe or Jane Blow; they are simply people who crashed while not being careful at the wheel.
The cops and their faithful supporters have quite the talent for changing reality to suit their own agenda.
Ok, and how long were you down for?
Gardner Guy

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#51
Feb 17, 2010
 
Mayor Wong could cut a "huge chunk" out of the budget just by removing herself. When she was young she did a lot of "skinny dippin." Now she does a lot of "chunkie dunkin".
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Feb 17, 2010
 
Darn Tootin from W Newton wrote:
It is amazing that in spite of the fact that the cops and their faithful supporters are relentlessly trying to convince all of us that ALL cops are at a great risk of death while on the job; that in Fitchburg's entire history, only two cops total have died on the job. And, of course the two deaths were accident related (train mishap and apparently auto accident). You can bet your bottom dollar that in Fitchburg's entire history some Roofers; Electricians and Farm Workers (along with others) have died on the job. So, what makes the cops think that somehow they are at greater risk of death; when the actual facts don't support their argument?
Just for the record Folks; as near as I can tell the last two cops who died while on duty in Mass were David Zolendziewski of Holyoke who just died as a result of injuries that he sustained in a single car crash. He was apparently not responding to anything; he just slid on some ice while
driving his cruiser around. And, of course we have Mass State Trooper Captain Richard Cashin; who died in early 2009 as a result of injuries that he sustained in a single car crash that was not weather related. He was apparently driving to assist the Saugus PD in a routine; low level traffic stop of a 24 year old girl.
So, two cops have died here in Mass; on duty; in the last year. And, both of them victims of their own carelessness or errors in judgement while at the wheel of a vehicle. The same exact thing that happens to motorists everyday in America. But; somehow in a cops mind; when it happens to them there is something brave and heroic about it. When it happens to Joe or Jane Blow; they are simply people who crashed while not being careful at the wheel.
The cops and their faithful supporters have quite the talent for changing reality to suit their own agenda.
More and more people are coming to the conclusion that you're an ex-con. Won't answer a simple question, spins BS with numbers, HATES cops.
Take the narcissism test.(Scaredy cat sociopathic narcissistic con).
You spend too much time on this topic. WAY too much. Cab drivers are your heroes? We already went down this road. You're grasping again,(oh, yes, a new audience). Again, try to forget your sorry past, move on, repay society in some way, and find a good hobby. Don't bother responding to me-I won't see it.
CU you at the parole office.
Darn Tootin from W Newton

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Feb 18, 2010
 
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More and more people are coming to the conclusion that you're an ex-con. Won't answer a simple question, spins BS with numbers, HATES cops.
Take the narcissism test.(Scaredy cat sociopathic narcissistic con).
You spend too much time on this topic. WAY too much. Cab drivers are your heroes? We already went down this road. You're grasping again,(oh, yes, a new audience). Again, try to forget your sorry past, move on, repay society in some way, and find a good hobby. Don't bother responding to me-I won't see it.
CU you at the parole office.
You continue to "play your hand" in the usual fashion: If someone brings up statistical data that effectively debunks the nonsense that the cops try to pass off to the public as being factual; then they MUST be a criminal.

Again, try to get it through your empty gourd; I am just here to add some checks and balances to the crapola that the cops and their faithful supporters are trying to pass off to the public in order to demand more and more; or, at the least, continue with the gouging of the public that is already happening.

I noticed a long time ago that many stories involving crime were resulting in comments being left on Topix Forum that all the public had to do was throw more money at their police budget and all of our problems would magically disappear. I knew that this tactic was simply being used to gouge the public and none of us were really any safer whenever we shelled out more money for the police budget. It just went to cover the cost of the redicules amount of paid days off that the cops receive and all of the overtime expense that is needed to cover for the grossly excessive amount of paid days off that our lawmen receive.

And, you can relax; I finally took your test. As I predicted; I am not a Narcissist. But, the test showed me that I have so many great qualities that I am now giving serious thought to becoming a Narcissist.

As usual Topix Forum Readers; the cops and their faithful supporters don't like what I have to say; so they are trying (very ineffectively I might add) to pass me off to the public as being a Sociopath or a Criminal; instead of actually debating the facts that I present here. Of course, since they cannot actually disprove the facts that I present here; they have two options: 1) Do nothing at all. and 2)Try to pass me off to the public as being a Sociopath or a Criminal.
Darn Tootin from W Newton

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#55
Feb 18, 2010
 
Hey Topix Forum Readers,

I just checked the statistical data for 2009 regarding the 10 deadliest jobs in America. And, the list really hasn't changed from previous years. So, let's set the record straight once more. This information is provided by the US Department of Labor. The first job on the list is the deadliest of all 10 and the last one on the list is the least deadliest of the 10; but, never the less they WERE the 10 most deadliest jobs in America for 2009:

1) Fishermen and Related Fisher Workers
2) Logging Workers
3) Airplane Pilots and Flight Engineers
4) Structual Iron and Steel Workers
5) Farmers and Ranchers
6) Refuse and Recyclable Workers
7) Roofers
8) Electrical Workers
9) Truck Drivers and Traveling Sales Workers
10) Taxi Drivers and Chauffeurs

Folks, the facts are the facts. Obviously, THESE are the people who are actually risking their lives for us each and everyday that they are on the job. Period. End of discussion.

Don't let any other group of workers try to convince you of anything else. The statistical data does not support their claim.
Clancy Wiggum

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Feb 18, 2010
 
Darn Tootin from W Newton wrote:
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You continue to "play your hand" in the usual fashion: If someone brings up statistical data that effectively debunks the nonsense that the cops try to pass off to the public as being factual; then they MUST be a criminal.
Again, try to get it through your empty gourd; I am just here to add some checks and balances to the crapola that the cops and their faithful supporters are trying to pass off to the public in order to demand more and more; or, at the least, continue with the gouging of the public that is already happening.
I noticed a long time ago that many stories involving crime were resulting in comments being left on Topix Forum that all the public had to do was throw more money at their police budget and all of our problems would magically disappear. I knew that this tactic was simply being used to gouge the public and none of us were really any safer whenever we shelled out more money for the police budget. It just went to cover the cost of the redicules amount of paid days off that the cops receive and all of the overtime expense that is needed to cover for the grossly excessive amount of paid days off that our lawmen receive.
And, you can relax; I finally took your test. As I predicted; I am not a Narcissist. But, the test showed me that I have so many great qualities that I am now giving serious thought to becoming a Narcissist.
As usual Topix Forum Readers; the cops and their faithful supporters don't like what I have to say; so they are trying (very ineffectively I might add) to pass me off to the public as being a Sociopath or a Criminal; instead of actually debating the facts that I present here. Of course, since they cannot actually disprove the facts that I present here; they have two options: 1) Do nothing at all. and 2)Try to pass me off to the public as being a Sociopath or a Criminal.
Ok Ok, I get it. How long were your down? Have you ever taken a trip to the EL Rancho? Maybe its time to go back.
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Feb 18, 2010
 
Darn Tootin from W Newton wrote:
Hey Topix Forum Readers,
I just checked the statistical data for 2009 regarding the 10 deadliest jobs in America. And, the list really hasn't changed from previous years. So, let's set the record straight once more. This information is provided by the US Department of Labor. The first job on the list is the deadliest of all 10 and the last one on the list is the least deadliest of the 10; but, never the less they WERE the 10 most deadliest jobs in America for 2009:
1) Fishermen and Related Fisher Workers
2) Logging Workers
3) Airplane Pilots and Flight Engineers
4) Structual Iron and Steel Workers
5) Farmers and Ranchers
6) Refuse and Recyclable Workers
7) Roofers
8) Electrical Workers
9) Truck Drivers and Traveling Sales Workers
10) Taxi Drivers and Chauffeurs
Folks, the facts are the facts. Obviously, THESE are the people who are actually risking their lives for us each and everyday that they are on the job. Period. End of discussion.
Don't let any other group of workers try to convince you of anything else. The statistical data does not support their claim.
Here we go again! You stated "these are the people who are actually risking their lives for us each and everyday that they are on the job." Now I thought that the list showed the 10 most deadliest jobs, not the 10 most deadliest jobs that involve risking one's life for another. What does that list of professions have to do with risking their lives for you or I? But again, that is your B.S. spin that you like to use to deceive your readers.

Please note that the word "ridiculous" is spelled as such. You seem to like to use it in a few of your previous posts and misspelling it makes you look like that much more of an idiot!
Darn Tootin from W Newton

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Feb 19, 2010
 

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Here we go again! You stated "these are the people who are actually risking their lives for us each and everyday that they are on the job." Now I thought that the list showed the 10 most deadliest jobs, not the 10 most deadliest jobs that involve risking one's life for another. What does that list of professions have to do with risking their lives for you or I? But again, that is your B.S. spin that you like to use to deceive your readers.
Please note that the word "ridiculous" is spelled as such. You seem to like to use it in a few of your previous posts and misspelling it makes you look like that much more of an idiot!
If the cops (and the Firefighters) were working for free; and simply donating their time because they had such a strong desire to "serve the public"; then we could all agree that they are risking their lives for someone else simply because it is the right thing to do.

But alas, that is NOT the case. They are being paid to do the job. In theory, the job may involve a Firefighter occasionally running into a burning building to save someone else's life; but it is more likely that a Firefighter will finish out his career having NEVER run into a burning building to save someone else. And, as far as the cops go; sure; in theory any cop working the streets has the POTENTIAL of getting into a life threatening situation. But, once again, chances are that MOST cops will finish out their careers having NEVER been involved in a life threatening situation. And, those are the cold, hard facts. Period.

So, if each and every cop and Firefighter was not only donating their time; but they were also placed into actual life threatening situations on a daily basis; we could all sing their praises. But, that is far from reality. Cops are simply doing the job that they are paid to do. And, for most cops, it is a pretty damn safe job. Period.

As for as you catching me on the misspelling; `I am guilty as charged. Score one for you!
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Feb 19, 2010
 
Darn Tootin from W Newton wrote:
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And, you can relax; I finally took your test. As I predicted; I am not a Narcissist. But, the test showed me that I have so many great qualities that I am now giving serious thought to becoming a Narcissist.
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Hey, that was funny. I wish more had your sense of humor and wordplay these days. It seems that all we hear from comedians today is a lot of potty-mouth. As far as your data about dangerous jobs, I must say it's a real eye opener! I always thought that the police had the most dangerous job but I guess I never really thought about those other jobs.
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Feb 19, 2010
 
Darn Tootin from W Newton wrote:
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If the cops (and the Firefighters) were working for free; and simply donating their time because they had such a strong desire to "serve the public"; then we could all agree that they are risking their lives for someone else simply because it is the right thing to do.
But alas, that is NOT the case. They are being paid to do the job. In theory, the job may involve a Firefighter occasionally running into a burning building to save someone else's life; but it is more likely that a Firefighter will finish out his career having NEVER run into a burning building to save someone else. And, as far as the cops go; sure; in theory any cop working the streets has the POTENTIAL of getting into a life threatening situation. But, once again, chances are that MOST cops will finish out their careers having NEVER been involved in a life threatening situation. And, those are the cold, hard facts. Period.
Ok, enough. The desire to help others does not automatically include a vow of poverty. Cops and Firefighters do get paid, the same as most people. The difference is, most people are doing a job to make money to support themselves or their family. They may be in the job out of economic necessity. Cops & Firefighters have to support their families as well, but they choose to do so in a way that helps others. There was a time, oncce, when that meant something. Yes, they face the POTENTIAL of injury on the job just as many other professions do. However, persons in the other professions are not placing themselves in dangerous situations to protect others. That's a key difference,at least under the values I was brought up to believe in.
Your statement that most firefighters never enter a burning building to save someone is a half truth. Yes, many firefighters may never make a hands-on rescue in their career. However, every firefighter enters several burning buildings in their career. It may be to search for a missing person, or to try and extinguish the fire to save someone's life or property. Yes, many police officers never have to draw their weapon for real in their entire career. I suspect the good ones don't regret that one bit. However, the potential is there everytime a vehicle is stopped, the officer knocks at the door of a domestic call or any one of a number of other situations.
Consider this. A soldier, even in time of war is not constantly in danger. That doesn't make the death of one any less tragic though. Their sacrifice is the same whether by combat or by simple accident. The potential is always there and that it occurred while trying to help others means something, at least to most people.
You say you only have issue with the "bad" ones out there but your posts paint every cop & firefighter with the same brush. The majority out there are "good" ones just like in any job. We dislike the "bad" ones as much as anyone else. They hurt all of us.
If you have an issue with "bad" cops or firefighters, fine. We all do. But do not demean the memories of the Officers and Firefighters who have given their lives trying to help others. Whether their death was caused by an accident or not, it's still a death in service to others. Your rants do nothing for your "cause" and just turn people away. Have you noticed that almost no one is chiming in with you?(And I'd question the stability of one of the individuals who does agree with you, based on the ramblings in his posts.)
I could list several police officer and firefighter fatalities over the years in MA and even here in Central MA, but I'm not going to waste the space. Whether a small town or a big city, the risk is always there.
I don't think you are a criminal, pedophile or scorned spouse. I do think you let your anger cloud your vision of the problem though.
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Feb 19, 2010
 
Sprague wrote:
<quoted text> Hey, that was funny. I wish more had your sense of humor and wordplay these days. It seems that all we hear from comedians today is a lot of potty-mouth. As far as your data about dangerous jobs, I must say it's a real eye opener! I always thought that the police had the most dangerous job but I guess I never really thought about those other jobs.
Hi Sprague,

I thank you for the positive input regarding my post. Many people are under the mistaken impression that the cops (and the Firefighters) have the most life threatening jobs in the US. But, the factual data proves otherwise.

The cops and their powerful unions use the myth of the job being extremely dangerous and life threatening to legally extort more and more money and more and more perks from the uninformed Taxpayers. No one stops to think that a Roofer; an Electrician; a Farm Worker and even a Cab Driver (along with 6 other groups of workers) actually have jobs that are more life threatening than the job of a cop (or a Firefighter).

So, I stick around to make sure that the real facts get given to the Topix Forum Readers. And, when the cops and their faithful supporters try to jump in with their usual nonsense and rhetoric; I give the Readers the straight dope on the subject. Sure, some boob will jump in saying that I must be a con or a sociopath; but I have broad shoulders, so their nonsense does not rattle me.
Clancy Wiggum

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Feb 20, 2010
 
Darn Tootin from W Newton I think you need to take a trip back to the EL Rancho
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Feb 20, 2010
 
Darn/Bro

You're getting stale, hang it up.

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