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herewegoagain

Leominster, MA

#22 Feb 11, 2010
Its all about the health care 8% increase. I say lets elect more independants errr Republicans so the rates can go higher.
AJP

Concord, MA

#23 Feb 11, 2010
I'd hate to not have a Senior Center but why does it have to be in such an old and energy inefficient building with no convenient parking? There has to be a better building to relocate to.
Really Fitchburg

Quincy, MA

#24 Feb 11, 2010
Former FPD wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay here we go. First off think about how many types of jobs there are out there. Even if there were only 100 types of jobs and police and fire come in at the 10 and 15 spot then I would guess that seems a little dangerous. Remember no one is taking anything away from those other jobs. But do any of those jobs require them to risk their own lives for the safety of others. There are probably thousands of different types of jobs out there and police come in at number 10. I think it is time for you to change who you are lashing out at. Does a police officer put his life on the line everyday....absolutely not. However, does a police officer know when something bad is going to happen to them. No, but there is always a chance when you are one of those that has to run towards a bad situation not away from it. Not only that why don't you go and find a family that has lost a loved one as a police officer on the job and start spouting your **** to them. I don't think you have the **** to do that. To sum it up police and fire personnel do put their lives on the line everytime they suit up. Why else would they require all that equipment and training. You should take a ride down to Washington D.C. and take a look at the police memorial down there. You should go in May when they have law enforcement officer week done there. You can then get on your little soapbox and start to tell all of those people and children that no longer have a father, mother, sister, brother, son, daughter or close friend that there is no risk in this profession. You would be surprised at the wall down there and how many people have lost their lives for the JOB....that's right the JOB... While down there go to Section 7East line 23 and look up Ofc. Larry Jupin on the wall. Do you remember him. Westminster Police Officer shot by a guy who shouldn't even have been out of jail. Well on that night back in May of 1999 he was shot and eventually fell to his injuries in November of 2002. He just happened to be the best man at my wedding. So yes, I feel that everytime a police officer or fireman put on their uniform to help protect you that they are putting their lives on the line. If you want to sit down face to face and talk about my best friend that is no longer with us then let me know. Other wise you need to shut up and squack about something else.
I'm usually not, but this time I'm with Darn Tootin. Police Officers are 11 on the list because the job is actually dangerous in large urban areas that have housing projects the size of Fitchburg. In places like that the job might actually be dangerous. In areas like Fitchburg that is just not the case. Larry Jupin is the exception not the rule. His loss to the community, his family and friends was significant, but it doesn't change the statistics. Most police officers die on the job from the same things that take the lives of the general public, traffic accidents. In places like Fitchburg, the job just isn't that dangerous.
Bravo

Winchendon, MA

#25 Feb 11, 2010
Former FPD wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay here we go. First off think about how many types of jobs there are out there. Even if there were only 100 types of jobs and police and fire come in at the 10 and 15 spot then I would guess that seems a little dangerous. Remember no one is taking anything away from those other jobs. But do any of those jobs require them to risk their own lives for the safety of others. There are probably thousands of different types of jobs out there and police come in at number 10. I think it is time for you to change who you are lashing out at. Does a police officer put his life on the line everyday....absolutely not. However, does a police officer know when something bad is going to happen to them. No, but there is always a chance when you are one of those that has to run towards a bad situation not away from it. Not only that why don't you go and find a family that has lost a loved one as a police officer on the job and start spouting your **** to them. I don't think you have the **** to do that. To sum it up police and fire personnel do put their lives on the line everytime they suit up. Why else would they require all that equipment and training. You should take a ride down to Washington D.C. and take a look at the police memorial down there. You should go in May when they have law enforcement officer week done there. You can then get on your little soapbox and start to tell all of those people and children that no longer have a father, mother, sister, brother, son, daughter or close friend that there is no risk in this profession. You would be surprised at the wall down there and how many people have lost their lives for the JOB....that's right the JOB... While down there go to Section 7East line 23 and look up Ofc. Larry Jupin on the wall. Do you remember him. Westminster Police Officer shot by a guy who shouldn't even have been out of jail. Well on that night back in May of 1999 he was shot and eventually fell to his injuries in November of 2002. He just happened to be the best man at my wedding. So yes, I feel that everytime a police officer or fireman put on their uniform to help protect you that they are putting their lives on the line. If you want to sit down face to face and talk about my best friend that is no longer with us then let me know. Other wise you need to shut up and squack about something else.
Bravo this guy is an AHOLE
Former FPD

AOL

#26 Feb 11, 2010
Really Fitchburg wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm usually not, but this time I'm with Darn Tootin. Police Officers are 11 on the list because the job is actually dangerous in large urban areas that have housing projects the size of Fitchburg. In places like that the job might actually be dangerous. In areas like Fitchburg that is just not the case. Larry Jupin is the exception not the rule. His loss to the community, his family and friends was significant, but it doesn't change the statistics. Most police officers die on the job from the same things that take the lives of the general public, traffic accidents. In places like Fitchburg, the job just isn't that dangerous.
It isn't like working in places like New York City or Los Angeles but can you predict when and where a police officer will be shot, stabbed, killed in a car accident or anything line of duty death. You can't and they can't. All I am saying is that being a police officer is a dangerous job no matter where you live or work. I know you must think of Fitchburg as a Mayberry or something which it is not. Fitchburg has had only two line of duty deaths in its history and hopefully it will stay that way. One was a traffic accident and the other Officer was struck by a train. In both cases they had their uniforms on and were performing their duties. Westminster P.D. has had two line of duty deaths. However they are more of a bedroom community than Fitchburg is and their population is only a fraction of Fitchburgs, however they had just as many line of duty deaths....see what I am saying...it is a dangerous job anywhere. Look at all the line of duty deaths suffered in NYC on 9/11. There were quite a few firefighters and police officers killed that day. Remember they were probably the only ones killed going into the building not trying to get out. Obviously your mind is where it is and I am waisting my time. If I may ask what is it that you do for a living. Just curious.
Call 911

Marblehead, MA

#27 Feb 11, 2010
Ah ha wrote:
<quoted text>
Let us not forget the food delivery people now. Or convenience store clerks. Or gas station attendants.
My dad drove a can in Dorchester part time when he was home from Korea. My mom worried about him every time he went to work. And working in a convenience store or gas station is one job I was never allowed or told was a safe job to be working.
Maybe if the FPD actually did something to stop the crime/gangs/drug dealers in this city I would think they put their lives on the line. But the fact is... they don't. The occasional State Trooper sitting and waiting around here does more work than the FPD does
Ya, and I bet it was a big comfort for your mother to know that if something did happen the police would come as fast as possible. Lets give all the other mothers the same sense of security knowing that if they need the police there will be enough to handle things!
NL Fitchburg

Sudbury, MA

#28 Feb 11, 2010
AJP wrote:
I'd hate to not have a Senior Center but why does it have to be in such an old and energy inefficient building with no convenient parking? There has to be a better building to relocate to.
The present cite was renovated and chosen by Mayor Bray. When the issue came up again, the former director was against moving. Those who use the center would love to have parking. Leominster is always busy. Fitchburg has a lot to offer, but it's just not convenient.People have received parking tickets for taking or teaching classes there. There are other locations that would be more appropriate and more cost effective. To eliminate a senior center is a real slap in the face to any city. It shows a real disregard for the elderly. That's really low.
AJP

Fitchburg, MA

#29 Feb 11, 2010
So then lets move the Senior Center, not close it, to a more convenient and less expensive location. The former Woolworth store is empty and right next to a public parking lot for one idea.
Darn Tootin from W Newton

Brookline, MA

#30 Feb 12, 2010
Former FPD wrote:
<quoted text>
It isn't like working in places like New York City or Los Angeles but can you predict when and where a police officer will be shot, stabbed, killed in a car accident or anything line of duty death. You can't and they can't. All I am saying is that being a police officer is a dangerous job no matter where you live or work. I know you must think of Fitchburg as a Mayberry or something which it is not. Fitchburg has had only two line of duty deaths in its history and hopefully it will stay that way. One was a traffic accident and the other Officer was struck by a train. In both cases they had their uniforms on and were performing their duties. Westminster P.D. has had two line of duty deaths. However they are more of a bedroom community than Fitchburg is and their population is only a fraction of Fitchburgs, however they had just as many line of duty deaths....see what I am saying...it is a dangerous job anywhere. Look at all the line of duty deaths suffered in NYC on 9/11. There were quite a few firefighters and police officers killed that day. Remember they were probably the only ones killed going into the building not trying to get out. Obviously your mind is where it is and I am waisting my time. If I may ask what is it that you do for a living. Just curious.
So, you come up with a grand total of two police deaths in Fitchburg; in it's entire history, eh?

My guess is that if we looked at some of tbe other professions in Fitchburg; and looked at the entire history of Fitchburg; we would find MORE THAN ONE profession where more than two individual workers died while on the job. I would bet money on it. Thanks for proving my point for me!

And, as far as 9/11; the police and their unions have beaten that one to death for the past 9 years. What about the other big disaster that struck the US in the past few years; Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans? It was reported that roughly 1/3 of New Orleans LEO's simply abandoned their posts; right after the Hurricane struck. Other cops where caught on tape joining in the looting that was taking place.

But, back to 9/11 for a moment. A report was just released on 2/8/2010; saying that issues are now surfacing regarding officers (and others) filing bogus claims related to injuries sustained during the 9/11 disaster. Apparently; some people are putting in claims who spent little to no time actually at the site of the 9/11 Disaster! Am I surprised? Not the least!
Hmm

Peabody, MA

#31 Feb 12, 2010
Darn Tootin from W Newton wrote:
<quoted text>
So, you come up with a grand total of two police deaths in Fitchburg; in it's entire history, eh?
My guess is that if we looked at some of tbe other professions in Fitchburg; and looked at the entire history of Fitchburg; we would find MORE THAN ONE profession where more than two individual workers died while on the job. I would bet money on it. Thanks for proving my point for me!
And, as far as 9/11; the police and their unions have beaten that one to death for the past 9 years. What about the other big disaster that struck the US in the past few years; Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans? It was reported that roughly 1/3 of New Orleans LEO's simply abandoned their posts; right after the Hurricane struck. Other cops where caught on tape joining in the looting that was taking place.
But, back to 9/11 for a moment. A report was just released on 2/8/2010; saying that issues are now surfacing regarding officers (and others) filing bogus claims related to injuries sustained during the 9/11 disaster. Apparently; some people are putting in claims who spent little to no time actually at the site of the 9/11 Disaster! Am I surprised? Not the least!
That does not negate the fact that over 70 police officers were killed at that incident.
Risking lives is BS

Fitchburg, MA

#32 Feb 12, 2010
Former FPD wrote:
<quoted text>
First off. You have no idea what you are talking about. There are usually between 5 and 7 cruisers on the street at any one time. At one time when staffing was up there were 13 officers on two of the shifts and 14 or 15 on 3-11 shift. There were also 2 Sgt's per shift. So if we just estimate that there are 13 officers per shift that is 39 that work patrol and then there are 6 supervisors. My math is 45 not the measely little 24 that you put in there. Not to mention there are usually others in a special unit depending on man power. Then there are the members of both the Detective Bureau and the Drug Suppression Unit that are out in the streets as well. So if you figure there are at least 6 of them then you are looking at 51 bodies that are out putting their lives on the line. So my advice to you is if you have no idea what you are talking about then perhaps you should not talk at all till you get your facts straight.
There are 4 criusers working the entire city of Fitchburg on Friday and Saturday nights! This is a fact! It took a cruiser 63 minutes to arrive on scene of my 911 call. I estimated if I called the Boston Police, it would take the exact time for a Boston Police cruiser to arrive on Main st! This was a Monday night by the way!!!

This fact should be serious cause for the safety of the citizens of Fitchburg! Most FP have a serious disposition like everybody owes them something or as they are better than or too good to get involved. The pay more attention in showing their brutal attitude then they spend risking their fudging lives! This is so over rated!!! Enough of that BS.
Fire them all

Fitchburg, MA

#33 Feb 12, 2010
Where is this former Police officer? Tell me where we can find a FPD cruiser??? This department is seriously inept!!!
I will go face to face with you over the facts!! There are 4 cruisers on duty! Most of the FPD is RUDE,Disrespectful to all citizens! They are seriously inept!
There is no way to solve this FPD issue in Fitchburg but to clean out the entire force! I will stand on the podium in front of Union members in Fitchburg! This force is INEPT! PERIOD! They endanger our lives!
If we cleared out the entire FPD and had feds come in till we replaced every single FP then Fitchburg will grow! Until then we are stuck in the mud with the deplorable force that we have protecting us!
Why don't wed conduct a test of how an officer approaches and treats civilians of Fitchburg. Lets go undercover and record their daily routine! I will volunteer!!
Do you think 63 minutes is ok for an arrival time on a cold night, a monday night in Fitchburg?? There must of been a total of ten people out in the entire Fitchburg!!
Fire them all as a matter of public safety!!! Fitchburg deserves better than the inept force that we have now!
Besides the Chief NONE of these FPD care about solving crimes!!!! Enough!! They all just want to PORTRAY that they are BIGSHOTS!! ENOUGH!!!!
The FPD budget is big enough for the city to hire a force of officers who actually want to work! The current force is a bunch of entitled thriving selfish rude and inept in their jobs!!
I live in Fitchburg and I can tell you for FACT, this force is seriously INEPT!!!!! This former PO should open his financials up for review!! I wonder if there is evidence of the norm for the bloated OT scam in these records?? Shame on all the crooks who STOLE, FUDGING STOLE, like slimey thieves out of the FPD budget for their own greedy criminal selves!!
principal skinner

Fitchburg, MA

#34 Feb 12, 2010
Darn Tootin from W Newton wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention Folks; the FACT that most law enforcement officer deaths are the result of accidents. They ARE NOT the result of gunshot. And, I forgot to mention the FACT that Cab Drivers die via of homicide the most often of ANY group of workers in our nation (including cops).
Our nation's Cab Drivers are clearly incredibly brave; as they sit unarmed in their Taxi Cabs. And, I thank them for their brave service. I also wish their loved ones strength; as they watch this brave bunch leave for work each and every day and put their lives on the line for us.
Darn, How long were you down for?
principal skinner

Fitchburg, MA

#35 Feb 12, 2010
Fire them all wrote:
Where is this former Police officer? Tell me where we can find a FPD cruiser??? This department is seriously inept!!!
I will go face to face with you over the facts!! There are 4 cruisers on duty! Most of the FPD is RUDE,Disrespectful to all citizens! They are seriously inept!
There is no way to solve this FPD issue in Fitchburg but to clean out the entire force! I will stand on the podium in front of Union members in Fitchburg! This force is INEPT! PERIOD! They endanger our lives!
If we cleared out the entire FPD and had feds come in till we replaced every single FP then Fitchburg will grow! Until then we are stuck in the mud with the deplorable force that we have protecting us!
Why don't wed conduct a test of how an officer approaches and treats civilians of Fitchburg. Lets go undercover and record their daily routine! I will volunteer!!
Do you think 63 minutes is ok for an arrival time on a cold night, a monday night in Fitchburg?? There must of been a total of ten people out in the entire Fitchburg!!
Fire them all as a matter of public safety!!! Fitchburg deserves better than the inept force that we have now!
Besides the Chief NONE of these FPD care about solving crimes!!!! Enough!! They all just want to PORTRAY that they are BIGSHOTS!! ENOUGH!!!!
The FPD budget is big enough for the city to hire a force of officers who actually want to work! The current force is a bunch of entitled thriving selfish rude and inept in their jobs!!
I live in Fitchburg and I can tell you for FACT, this force is seriously INEPT!!!!! This former PO should open his financials up for review!! I wonder if there is evidence of the norm for the bloated OT scam in these records?? Shame on all the crooks who STOLE, FUDGING STOLE, like slimey thieves out of the FPD budget for their own greedy criminal selves!!
Time to go back to the El Rancho
reality

Windham, NH

#36 Feb 12, 2010
Biggidy

Townsend, MA

#37 Feb 12, 2010
when will you be serving our city as a police officer keeping our city safe and clean???? on the 3 occasions that my family needed them they were respectful and understanding. 2 auto accidents and a 911 call which they quickly responded to. sounds to me like you have someting against police. Perhaps its the way you engage them.
Fire them all wrote:
Where is this former Police officer? Tell me where we can find a FPD cruiser??? This department is seriously inept!!!
I will go face to face with you over the facts!! There are 4 cruisers on duty! Most of the FPD is RUDE,Disrespectful to all citizens! They are seriously inept!
There is no way to solve this FPD issue in Fitchburg but to clean out the entire force! I will stand on the podium in front of Union members in Fitchburg! This force is INEPT! PERIOD! They endanger our lives!
If we cleared out the entire FPD and had feds come in till we replaced every single FP then Fitchburg will grow! Until then we are stuck in the mud with the deplorable force that we have protecting us!
Why don't wed conduct a test of how an officer approaches and treats civilians of Fitchburg. Lets go undercover and record their daily routine! I will volunteer!!
Do you think 63 minutes is ok for an arrival time on a cold night, a monday night in Fitchburg?? There must of been a total of ten people out in the entire Fitchburg!!
Fire them all as a matter of public safety!!! Fitchburg deserves better than the inept force that we have now!
Besides the Chief NONE of these FPD care about solving crimes!!!! Enough!! They all just want to PORTRAY that they are BIGSHOTS!! ENOUGH!!!!
The FPD budget is big enough for the city to hire a force of officers who actually want to work! The current force is a bunch of entitled thriving selfish rude and inept in their jobs!!
I live in Fitchburg and I can tell you for FACT, this force is seriously INEPT!!!!! This former PO should open his financials up for review!! I wonder if there is evidence of the norm for the bloated OT scam in these records?? Shame on all the crooks who STOLE, FUDGING STOLE, like slimey thieves out of the FPD budget for their own greedy criminal selves!!
Former FPD

AOL

#38 Feb 12, 2010
Biggidy wrote:
when will you be serving our city as a police officer keeping our city safe and clean???? on the 3 occasions that my family needed them they were respectful and understanding. 2 auto accidents and a 911 call which they quickly responded to. sounds to me like you have someting against police. Perhaps its the way you engage them.
<quoted text>
I would have to agree more with you than the other two that absolutely have an over abundant hatred of police. Not sure where that comes from...But oh well. I guess you had three encounters with the only nice police officer to ever wear a badge in that city....Or that officer stole you blind and you don't know it yet.. Please those two guys make it sound like the entire force is just wasting tax dollars and doing absolutely nothing. I worked there for quite some time. There are a lot of decent hard working men and women there. Sounds like these two have had thousands of encounters with all those horrible police officers and had a bad experience every time...Yet you had three very good encounters....Go figure...To all the cop haters out there.....what goes around comes around....That is not a threat by the way just an old saying....
Former FPD

AOL

#39 Feb 12, 2010
Darn Tootin from W Newton wrote:
<quoted text>
So, you come up with a grand total of two police deaths in Fitchburg; in it's entire history, eh?
My guess is that if we looked at some of tbe other professions in Fitchburg; and looked at the entire history of Fitchburg; we would find MORE THAN ONE profession where more than two individual workers died while on the job. I would bet money on it. Thanks for proving my point for me!
And, as far as 9/11; the police and their unions have beaten that one to death for the past 9 years. What about the other big disaster that struck the US in the past few years; Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans? It was reported that roughly 1/3 of New Orleans LEO's simply abandoned their posts; right after the Hurricane struck. Other cops where caught on tape joining in the looting that was taking place.
But, back to 9/11 for a moment. A report was just released on 2/8/2010; saying that issues are now surfacing regarding officers (and others) filing bogus claims related to injuries sustained during the 9/11 disaster. Apparently; some people are putting in claims who spent little to no time actually at the site of the 9/11 Disaster! Am I surprised? Not the least!
Darn tootin. Just curious where your extraordinary hatred of police comes from, or maybe you just hate everyone in the world including yourself. oh by the way what do you do for a living. I suppose we could find a way to bash the heck out of you as well. If you put all this time and energy into saving the world instead of spouting off on everything then the world would most definitely be a better place.
John Anderson

Fitchburg, MA

#40 Feb 12, 2010
save money get rid of him.
NL Fitchburg

Sudbury, MA

#41 Feb 12, 2010
AJP wrote:
So then lets move the Senior Center, not close it, to a more convenient and less expensive location. The former Woolworth store is empty and right next to a public parking lot for one idea.
Great idea. Part of Putnam Place is empty, too. Fitchburg isn't short of empty buildings!

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