Former Johnsonia residents seeking reopened fire probe

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Civil Servant Supporter

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I have asked simple questions that many tenets have asked..

The way things were handled by Clark makes people wonder that's all.
Entire roof lit at ounce

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Witnesses all state that the entire roof along the edge lit at the same time. So if there wasn't an electric wire around the entire edge of the building then it is suspicious.
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Entire roof lit at ounce wrote:
Witnesses all state that the entire roof along the edge lit at the same time. So if there wasn't an electric wire around the entire edge of the building then it is suspicious.
It's called a flashover. Remember when something is heated high enough it gives off combustible gases and the gases is what you see burning, not the actual physical item. As the item is continuing to give off gases it becomes smaller and appears to be burning but it is heated high enough that it keeps getting smaller due to releasing gases.

Flashover is when all those gases from heated items such as walls, furniture, roofs collect and reach their ignition temperature and ignite all at once.

So the entire roof ignited all at once the flashover occurred.

Remember firefighting is not something you learn over a weekend. Firefighters now need college degrees in fire science.

http://www.local1259iaff.org/flashover.html
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wow you have a answer for everything ...Your awesome you should run for Mayor
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I heard one tenet say it's funny how the fire started above clark's condo and his son on the other side of the building smelled the smoke. woke up clark at 910pm at night and got everyone out. How come nobody smelled smoke that was near that side of the fire?? They should give the two of them the key to the city for there actions But hay nobody will ever know what really happen
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Civil Servant Supporter wrote:
I heard one tenet say it's funny how the fire started above clark's condo and his son on the other side of the building smelled the smoke. woke up clark at 910pm at night and got everyone out. How come nobody smelled smoke that was near that side of the fire?? They should give the two of them the key to the city for there actions But hay nobody will ever know what really happen
Sounds like you have a grudge against the owner so you will stop at nothing to blame him. That's too bad because I didn't think people like you still existed?

So since a lot of posters here do not like Lynch and if Lynch's house burn down, you will say he started it?

Even I know fires can happen and even happen to people that are not well liked. But that doesn't mean they started it.

Oh by the way, I heard the tenants on that side of the building were not in the units at the time.

Many of them were at Destare......wink

http://destare.com/

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Civil Servant Supporter wrote:
I heard one tenet say it's funny how the fire started above clark's condo and his son on the other side of the building smelled the smoke. woke up clark at 910pm at night and got everyone out. How come nobody smelled smoke that was near that side of the fire?? They should give the two of them the key to the city for there actions But hay nobody will ever know what really happen
Clark and his son lived on the same side of the building. Their units connected to each other. Then a common hallway, staircase and elevator with a lower open outside courtyard in the middle separated their ENTIRE side of the building from the other side of the building and the residents living above the coin shop. Clark's side abutted the ARC building.

Only Clark or his son would be able to smell the smoke early on.

Sounds like you know a lot about the building but never took a tour of it. They had tours of the building every Christmas.

That's a shame you missed out on a seeing a nice piece of Fitchburg history before it was gone.
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Only Clark or his son would be able to smell the smoke early on.

How Covenant Wink,Wink
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Only Clark or his son would be able to smell the smoke early on.
How Covenant Wink,Wink
Just testing you big sexy. I see you like to ask dead end questions?


You would never be picked for a jury pool, I can see walking thru the door reporting for jury duty yelling GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY before you even know what the case is.
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I wasn't at the actual fire but I watched it on youtube and nothing looked suspicious to me. Also I don't want to hear Lynch say again how he works harder than the FPD.
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American wrote:
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Just testing you big sexy. I see you like to ask dead end questions?
You would never be picked for a jury pool, I can see walking thru the door reporting for jury duty yelling GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY before you even know what the case is.
But your the one who said

Only Clark or his son would be able to smell the smoke early on.

Hey talk to some of the tenets lots of questions unanswered lots of people feel the same way....

Why did clark cover the building like the city ordered him to??
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Hmmmm wrote:
I wasn't at the actual fire but I watched it on youtube and nothing looked suspicious to me. Also I don't want to hear Lynch say again how he works harder than the FPD.
What is wrong with you? What is you problem with Lynch? What does it matter if he worked harder than FFD employees, big deal!

Reality of life states that we need full time firemen. I agree with this need but we are talking about physical work hrs per year.

If there isn't a fire to fight then there isn't a fire which is a good thing! You twist the logic. Physical labor would be pulling and connecting hoses, pick axing doors and roofs and climbing ladders ect.

Our you a Leominster fire fighter? Who are you? And why would it matter if Lynch works more physical labor hrs a year than a firefighter? Why?

The way fires happen sometimes firefighters fight one fire their entire careers! This is fact! But we all know that we must keep a crew on active service 24 hrs a day which is a good thing!
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What is you problem with Lynch? What does it matter if he worked harder than FFD employees, big deal!

And why would it matter if Lynch works more physical labor hrs a year than a firefighter? Why?
More lying. Please tell us what kind of work you do. You're on the cuckoo check.
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American wrote:
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It's called a flashover. Remember when something is heated high enough it gives off combustible gases and the gases is what you see burning, not the actual physical item. As the item is continuing to give off gases it becomes smaller and appears to be burning but it is heated high enough that it keeps getting smaller due to releasing gases.
Flashover is when all those gases from heated items such as walls, furniture, roofs collect and reach their ignition temperature and ignite all at once.
So the entire roof ignited all at once the flashover occurred.
Remember firefighting is not something you learn over a weekend. Firefighters now need college degrees in fire science.
http://www.local1259iaff.org/flashover.html
So you are stating that the fire was under the roof? Under your theory I can see this flashover concerning gases taken place if the fire was spread throughout lower floors.

Now, it has been reported that the roof burnt around its edge causing the roof to collapse. The witnesses were watching and filming from the building across the street.

Open flames on the roof before any fire below!!! If a fire was started along the entire edge of the building then it seems like this would be from an accelerant of some sort or maybe there was an electric wire that went around the entire edge of the building.

I think what people are saying is if the fire is on the top of the roof before below then they have logical questions to make. This sort of fire is the safest for tenants as they would all get out without problems safely. And just the water damage to the building would be sufficient to total it as the fire was on the roof.
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Lynch camp wrote:
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So you are stating that the fire was under the roof? Under your theory I can see this flashover concerning gases taken place if the fire was spread throughout lower floors.
Now, it has been reported that the roof burnt around its edge causing the roof to collapse. The witnesses were watching and filming from the building across the street.
Open flames on the roof before any fire below!!! If a fire was started along the entire edge of the building then it seems like this would be from an accelerant of some sort or maybe there was an electric wire that went around the entire edge of the building.
I think what people are saying is if the fire is on the top of the roof before below then they have logical questions to make. This sort of fire is the safest for tenants as they would all get out without problems safely. And just the water damage to the building would be sufficient to total it as the fire was on the roof.
I did not state the fire started anywhere. Does Gomez read posts to you since you obviously cannot read?
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Just testing you big sexy. I see you like to ask dead end questions?
You would never be picked for a jury pool, I can see walking thru the door reporting for jury duty yelling GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY before you even know what the case is.
Sorry been called three times for jury duty and got on cases every time. You have to look at all the facts. From what people say Clarks Facts do not add up and questions are unanswered.

No I never been in the building but had good friends lose everything and they lived on the 2nd floor where there was only water damage. She had all her jewelry taken from her bed room only days after the fire.

Question is: Who was the only one in the building?? OH ya the police were watching the building.
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If the tenants purchased tenant homeowner's insurance, their belongings were insured, so complaining about losses are a moot point.

If you're too stupid to purchase protection for your valuables, then that is your problem.
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It is obvious that this city is connected at the hip. Can you ever expect to get a fair anything in this city?
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It is obvious that this city is connected at the hip. Can you ever expect to get a fair anything in this city?
If you were too cheap to purchase protection for your valuables, it is only fair that you lost them. Stop expecting others to take care of you.
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Just Facts wrote:
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If you were too cheap to purchase protection for your valuables, it is only fair that you lost them. Stop expecting others to take care of you.
What a complete azzhole you are, you know nothing about this person yet you call them Cheap and label them as expecting others to take care of them, he said nothing about all that.

You have issues, you should address them instead of spewing your unsubstantiated hatred for others on a public comment board!

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