Former Johnsonia residents seeking reopened fire probe

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Big Mike

Gardner, MA

#1 Jul 7, 2013
No accountability

Fitchburg, MA

#2 Jul 7, 2013
Big Mike wrote:
http://www.telegram.com/articl e/20130707/NEWS/107079901
Fat chance in this city!!!!!!!!!!
No accountability

Fitchburg, MA

#3 Jul 7, 2013
I hope that these residents keep up the fight. Seems suspicious enough to me!! Can you imagine a fire chief statin that the damage was too extensive to find a cause? But then in the same breath state that is wasn't suspicious?

Then Mayor Wong sticking up for him because he paid his water bill and taxes after he received insurance money??

I have heard that the fire was on the entire circumference of the roof. And he was home? If this fire was done on purpose it was well thought out or successfully thought out. The entire building burnt in the safest manner possible known to mankind. Evidence gone! All residents safe. Possible objectives and plan successful.

It sounds like there are a lot of intelligent tenants that can see that there is enough to see that is very suspicious.
No accountability

Gardner, MA

#4 Jul 8, 2013
Clark is happy with all the money he revived after paying all his back taxes (about 4.1 million) Gee he smiling all the way to the bank. Looks fishy to a lot of people.
Jtn

Concord, MA

#5 Jul 8, 2013
No accountability wrote:
I hope that these residents keep up the fight. Seems suspicious enough to me!! Can you imagine a fire chief statin that the damage was too extensive to find a cause? But then in the same breath state that is wasn't suspicious?
Then Mayor Wong sticking up for him because he paid his water bill and taxes after he received insurance money??
I have heard that the fire was on the entire circumference of the roof. And he was home? If this fire was done on purpose it was well thought out or successfully thought out. The entire building burnt in the safest manner possible known to mankind. Evidence gone! All residents safe. Possible objectives and plan successful.
It sounds like there are a lot of intelligent tenants that can see that there is enough to see that is very suspicious.
what is wongs involvement? Do ou know Joanne? Sue?
American

Gardner, MA

#6 Jul 8, 2013
Fires are terrible situations. The Johnsonia residents look selfish though because there are many people who had fires and have lost everything. They also never received reimbursement but they also never complained as much as these residents.

It doesn't matter if the owner was home. Because if he wasn't home then people would say he started it and then left the building. Then they say he stayed home so it will not look suspicious on his part. So that wouldn't matter anyways.

Actually the professor who lived in the building was the smart one. He requested and had the fire department walk through his apartment and video his belongings. This way the items he could not retrieve within the days that the residents were allowed in were at least on video for insurance company.

As for an investigation, take a piece of paper, light it and place it in a fireplace to start a fire with the logs. Wait till it all burns away. Now ask someone how did they started their fireplace? You know what is left of the paper? Nothing.

The Johnsonia building was large fire that most likely destroyed the cause of the fire. The professional investigators completed their job. Get over it.

Fires are never deemed suspicious because of an owner's financial status. If that was the case many people who are jobless or behind on their expenses and had their house burn down will be deemed arsonists.

I am sure the 3 days the residents had to retrieve their items they must have photographed or videoed their unit? That would have been the smart thing to do.

A fire is a very emotional circumstance to go through but the residents should think of other people that have gone through the same thing. They are starting to look like that they are the only ones who have gone thru this and should have gotten special treatment.

I am sure they had apartment/condo insurance.
Jtn

Concord, MA

#7 Jul 8, 2013
American wrote:
Fires are terrible situations. The Johnsonia residents look selfish though because there are many people who had fires and have lost everything. They also never received reimbursement but they also never complained as much as these residents.
It doesn't matter if the owner was home. Because if he wasn't home then people would say he started it and then left the building. Then they say he stayed home so it will not look suspicious on his part. So that wouldn't matter anyways.
Actually the professor who lived in the building was the smart one. He requested and had the fire department walk through his apartment and video his belongings. This way the items he could not retrieve within the days that the residents were allowed in were at least on video for insurance company.
As for an investigation, take a piece of paper, light it and place it in a fireplace to start a fire with the logs. Wait till it all burns away. Now ask someone how did they started their fireplace? You know what is left of the paper? Nothing.
The Johnsonia building was large fire that most likely destroyed the cause of the fire. The professional investigators completed their job. Get over it.
Fires are never deemed suspicious because of an owner's financial status. If that was the case many people who are jobless or behind on their expenses and had their house burn down will be deemed arsonists.
I am sure the 3 days the residents had to retrieve their items they must have photographed or videoed their unit? That would have been the smart thing to do.
A fire is a very emotional circumstance to go through but the residents should think of other people that have gone through the same thing. They are starting to look like that they are the only ones who have gone thru this and should have gotten special treatment.
I am sure they had apartment/condo insurance.
hey dum dum it's obvious yu were not a tenant there
American

Gardner, MA

#8 Jul 8, 2013
Jtn wrote:
<quoted text>hey dum dum it's obvious yu were not a tenant there
Hey dumb dumb, what do you want them to do? There is no building, all gone. There is no evidence, all gone. There is nothing to investigate. The only way for them to prosecute the owner is if he says he did it. Obviously he will never say that.

I was in a fire where I lost everything. Tell the cry babies to move on, it's over.
No accountability

Gardner, MA

#9 Jul 8, 2013
American wrote:
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Hey dumb dumb, what do you want them to do? There is no building, all gone. There is no evidence, all gone. There is nothing to investigate. The only way for them to prosecute the owner is if he says he did it. Obviously he will never say that.
I was in a fire where I lost everything. Tell the cry babies to move on, it's over.
Well why was Clark seen taking stuff out his art Galley, Office and Condo a week before?? Why did he say the building would fall down if you went in it BUT he and his Family got their stuff out?? What happen to all the stuff that was stolen ?? Clark was the only one in the building?? People was not allowed in at all.....
Jtn

Concord, MA

#10 Jul 8, 2013
No accountability wrote:
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Well why was Clark seen taking stuff out his art Galley, Office and Condo a week before?? Why did he say the building would fall down if you went in it BUT he and his Family got their stuff out?? What happen to all the stuff that was stolen ?? Clark was the only one in the building?? People was not allowed in at all.....
its wongs fault
American

Gardner, MA

#11 Jul 8, 2013
Jtn wrote:
<quoted text>its wongs fault
It's Wong fault the building burned down?

Now I know why there are stupid people in Fitchburg.

So what do you want them to do?
Jtn

Concord, MA

#12 Jul 8, 2013
American wrote:
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It's Wong fault the building burned down?
Now I know why there are stupid people in Fitchburg.
So what do you want them to do?
put some more cats in the kitchen pot
American

Gardner, MA

#13 Jul 8, 2013
Jtn wrote:
<quoted text>put some more cats in the kitchen pot
If you don't have an answer don't post your opinion.
The perfect fire

Fitchburg, MA

#14 Jul 9, 2013
That building stood for a full year. Witnesses stated that the fire involved the entire top edge of the building. Was there an electric line that ran along the entire edge of the roof?

Was there an electric line around the entire edge of the roof?

If I was to start a fire on purpose with the intent of destroying the building and causing zero casualties how would I burn it?

I would burn the roof around the edge knowing that everyone is going to get out but the building would not be able to be saved.

The perfect fire! The water damage alone would destroy the building. The entire roof will fall in. A start may be to google such a fire.
Jtn

Concord, MA

#15 Jul 9, 2013
The perfect fire wrote:
That building stood for a full year. Witnesses stated that the fire involved the entire top edge of the building. Was there an electric line that ran along the entire edge of the roof?
Was there an electric line around the entire edge of the roof?
If I was to start a fire on purpose with the intent of destroying the building and causing zero casualties how would I burn it?
I would burn the roof around the edge knowing that everyone is going to get out but the building would not be able to be saved.
The perfect fire! The water damage alone would destroy the building. The entire roof will fall in. A start may be to google such a fire.
timeto bring the FSU police in
American

Gardner, MA

#16 Jul 9, 2013
No one could enter the building because the inspectors noticed that the building was contaminated with asbestos and deemed it unsafe to enter.

The asbestos may have been contained to Main Street side but they didn't want to take any chances as it can become airborne.

Workers donned protective gear when they were in the building and so did the owner.
Double standard Fitchburg

Fitchburg, MA

#18 Jul 9, 2013
American wrote:
No one could enter the building because the inspectors noticed that the building was contaminated with asbestos and deemed it unsafe to enter.
The asbestos may have been contained to Main Street side but they didn't want to take any chances as it can become airborne.
Workers donned protective gear when they were in the building and so did the owner.
So are you stating that the tenants couldn't fit into this safety suit? They sell them at Home Depot.
Double standard Fitchburg

Fitchburg, MA

#19 Jul 9, 2013
Typical double talk in Fitchburg! One way for the citizens and another for the connected.

Citizens must follow all the laws he connected is exempt. If this continues I bet voting could get down to 5%.

Mayor Wong has dropped the ball on leadership at crucial points. This fire, the Longsjo race and on accountability of city employees.
Jtn

Concord, MA

#20 Jul 9, 2013
Double standard Fitchburg wrote:
Typical double talk in Fitchburg! One way for the citizens and another for the connected.
Citizens must follow all the laws he connected is exempt. If this continues I bet voting could get down to 5%.
Mayor Wong has dropped the ball on leadership at crucial points. This fire, the Longsjo race and on accountability of city employees.
finally someone who knows what hey are talking about.
American

Gardner, MA

#21 Jul 9, 2013
Double standard Fitchburg wrote:
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So are you stating that the tenants couldn't fit into this safety suit? They sell them at Home Depot.
They why didn't they go buy the suits and request to enter? Their belongings were most likely contaminated with asbestos so why would they want them? They would not be allowed to remove them unless they had a company decontaminated each piece retrieved.

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