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Uncommoncets wrote:
"ok will do" cites the Civil War! If you are so intelligent tell me the History/facts!
I would LOVE to DEBATE you!!!
Let's start with your statement about the "civil war".
The DEMOCRATS supported WHAT???
The GOP/REPUBLICANS supported WHAT???
Let's have some fun shall WE!!!
You're an idiot child who thinks they've found a chew toy, The reference was that something didn't happen since that long ago, the point was the timeframe, not the actual War, COMPREHEND MUCH?!??!?!?!

Answer: Democrats were wrong, we freely admnit it. Most of them are NOW Republicans.

Ever hear a Republican admit they are wrong??????? Your party is currently loaded with bigots and racists and wrong on every issue of today.

We'll be waiting for you to admit that.
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Further qualifier, SOUTHERN DEMOCRATS were wrong. And long before hippies and progressives were even born idiot.
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Uncommoncets wrote:
"ok will do" cites the Civil War! If you are so intelligent tell me the History/facts!
I would LOVE to DEBATE you!!!
Let's start with your statement about the "civil war".
The DEMOCRATS supported WHAT???
The GOP/REPUBLICANS supported WHAT???
Let's have some fun shall WE!!!
Having a debate with you would be like talking to a coffee table!!!! Here are some facts you obviously have no clue about!!!

THe "Civil War" was about slavery idiot, NOT Civil Rights" as you say.

"Civil Rights" fight happened in the era of MArtin Luther King and capped off with the Voting Rights Act of the 60's, long after the Civil War.

You're nothing but an idiot, no wonder you think you've found the smoking gun, you lack understanding of our History!!

Now go take a class or something before you come and spew your idiocy even more!
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We don't have to burn it down dumbass, it is falling down all by itself because you morons don't seem to understand that money doesn't grow on trees, and you have to stop spending money that we don't have.
Big bold and clear as day, a shrinking deficit!!! BY A LOT!!!!

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-08-...
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The GOP isn't worried the ACA will fail and be a disaster, they're worried it's going to work!!! This is why they're making all these dire predictions.

Here's my prediction, 10 years down the road when it's proven to be a massively successful Law, the Clown Show won't be calling it Obamacare!!!!
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BAck when individual responsibility was important to Conservatives...

"In this 2007 interview, Mitt Romney defends the individual mandate that was a part of the health care legislation he signed into law in Massachusetts.

"When they show up at the hospital, they get care, they get free care, paid for by you and me. If that's not a form of socialism, I don't know what is. So my plan did something quite different. It said, you know what, if people can afford to buy insurance, if they can afford to buy insurance, or if they can pay their own way, then they either buy that insurance or pay their own way, but they no longer look to government to hand out free care. And that, in my opinion, is ultimate conservatism. That's why the Heritage Foundation worked with us and was at the celebration of the signing. The Heritage Foundation, as you know, a quintessentially conservative group, recognized that the principles of free enterprise and personal responsibility were at work. And I'm proud to talk about what we did. We did not need to raise taxes. We did not need to have the government take over health care. Instead, we rely on private market dynamics to get people in our state insured and for individuals to finally take responsibility for some portion of their health care rather than expecting government to give them a free ride."

Now, they ignore all past history and simply hate a black President with the heat if a thousand suns so they cast aside everything they ever stood for!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) appeared on "Face the Nation" yesterday and made clear that he's confused about the federal budget process. Noting that the House and Senate have passed competing spending measures intended to keep the government's lights on, the Republican senator asked, "Why don't we have a conference committee on this?"

Talk about out if touch, BECAUSE YOU WON'T GO THERE! What ignorance? Same ignorance they expect from you followers!!

It fell to Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) to patiently try to explain the details Rand Paul must have missed: "We've been trying for more than six months to get Republicans to approve a conference committee on the budget."

I mention this exchange because I imagine there are quite a few Americans wondering how in the world we ended up, once again, with the prospect of an imminent government shutdown. It's worth taking a moment to remember that this crisis isn't an accident -- congressional Republicans created it on purpose several months ago.

In the early spring, both the House and Senate approved competing budget resolutions, and under the American system of government, both sides were supposed to go to a conference committee to hash out the differences. This year, Republicans refused. Consider this Washington Post piece from early May, which is all the more amazing nearly five months later.

[The shrinking deficit] might seem like good news, but it is unraveling Republican plans to force a budget deal before Congress takes its August break. Instead, the fiscal fight appears certain to bleed into the fall, when policymakers will face another multi-pronged crisis that pairs the need for a higher debt limit and the fresh risk of default with the threat of a full-scale government shutdown, which is also looming Oct. 1.

In the meantime, Republicans face a listless summer, with little appetite for compromise but no leverage to shape an agreement. Without that leverage, House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Tuesday, there is no point in opening formal budget negotiations between the House and the Senate.

This is critically important to understanding what's happening on Capitol Hill right now. If the House and Senate had gone to a conference committee back in the spring to work out their budget differences, Republicans would have been expected to compromise to reach a broader agreement -- but Republicans don't want to compromise.

So they decided to abandon the budget process they themselves had asked for so they could do precisely what they're doing now -- use extortion instead of compromise to try to get what they want.

The government may shut down in 15 hours, but it's not an accident. Indeed, it could have been easily avoided if Congress had just done what Congresses are supposed to do when the House and Senate disagree on the budget. But Republicans insisted on this confrontation, hoping that if they just threatened enough harm, maybe Democrats would put aside the election results and meet some or all of the GOP's demands.

There is a process already in place that's intended to prevent disasters like these. House Republicans deliberately rejected it because they wanted a crisis, assuming it would give them "leverage" so they wouldn't have to compromise at all.

They cried and cried and cried about not having a Budget to hash out, they got one, THEN refused to hash it out in Committee and instead prefer to hold everything Hostage even while what they asked for WAS ON THE TABLE!!!

It's a GOP manufactured shut down of the Government, great show!! Thanks a padload! And you THINK this is going to help you in coming elections?!??!
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With the deadline for a government shutdown now just 16 hours away, there's a dirty little secret that hasn't received as much attention as it deserves: there's an obvious solution that enjoys the support of the White House, a majority of the Senate, and a majority of the House. It's not going anywhere, however, because House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is too afraid of the idea.

It came up briefly yesterday on "Meet the Press" when Dee Dee Myers asked Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho) a good question. So what's the endgame, though, congressman?" Myers said. "Are you willing to vote for a continued resolution that comes back [to the House] that does not delay or defund Obamacare?"

"I am not, but I think there's enough people in the Republican Party who are willing to do that," the far-right congressman responded.

And there it is: the obvious resolution. A temporary budget bill (or "continuing resolution") that keeps current spending levels in place, and leaves the federal health care system alone, has already been approved by the Senate. The White House has said President Obama would sign it. And if it came to the House floor for a vote, it'd probably get a majority there, too, ending the threat of a shutdown.

Indeed, Labrador isn't the only one who thinks so. Reps. Peter King (R-N.Y.), Charlie Dent (R-Pa.), and Steve Womack (R-Ark.) have all made similar comments in recent days.

So why doesn't the House GOP leadership just take the obvious step and allow the House to vote on the Senate bill? Boehner may yet do exactly that -- like I said, there are still 16 hours to go -- but he's balked up until now because he insists on placating his far-right members.

We're on the brink of another shutdown, because Boehner is a weak Speaker who has allowed extremists to push him around -- and push us to another Republican-imposed crisis.

There was also this from the Hill yesterday:

House Republicans, who insisted that they had passed a compromise over the weekend that would avoid a shutdown if only the Senate would act, blamed Mr. Reid for purposely running out the clock.

Ah yes, a "compromise." The House GOP unanimously approved a measure that would strip millions of Americans of their health care benefits for a year, while blocking access to contraception for much of the public. Republicans then told the Senate to pass this or they'd shut down the government -- and this is, in their strange minds, a "compromise."

Republican lawmakers said on Sunday that the House leadership had one more card to play, but that it was extremely delicate. They can tell Mr. Reid he must accept a face-saving measure, like the repeal of the tax on medical devices, which many Democrats support, or they will send back a new amendment that would force members of Congress and their staffs, and the White House staff, to buy their medical insurance on the new health law's insurance exchanges, without any subsidies from the government to offset the cost.

Republicans are saying they're prepared to shut down the government unless Democrats agree to undermine the health care law in some way. Even if it's just a small change, GOP lawmakers want to chip off something from "Obamacare."

It doesn't matter if the concession achieves no policy goals. It doesn't matter if it helps or hurts anyone. It doesn't matter if it solves or exacerbates an existing problem. They just want to say they took something away from the Affordable Care Act.

And why, pray tell, would they be so obsessed? Because House Republicans are spoiled children who no longer feel the need to maintain the pretense that they care about policy or governing.

As CNBC's John Harwood noted this morning, the House GOP position is "disconnected from any rational policy goal." Harwood accurately characterized it as a "primal scream."

A hissy fit is what we used to call it on the playground, you had tyo let the kid play or he'd throw the ball into the woods!!!
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You are both so nieve. You think the health care bill has anything to do with helping people? Yeah right, tell that to the insurance and drug company lobbyists and they will laugh at you all the way to the bank.
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Have you ever wondered why life long politicians are all millionaires? Do you honestly believe they are passing any bills to help Joe public? Hell no! They pass bills that will make them rich with back door deals and both parties Dems and Reps are in on it.
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it seems ONE party is just fine DELIBERATELY inflicting pain on the country and the people in it, you know like, shutting the Government down to satisfy their hissy fit!
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You may not like the fact that Republican's up in the House don't want to fund Obamacare, but anyone who's been reading what is happening to people should be very concerned.

Businesses laying off workers and reducing hours to get around this ridiculous law. Costs for insurance for people already buying insurance skyrocketing. Doctor's leaving practice because they can't afford to work for the lousy amounts the government will reimburse for medical care...it is only the beginning.

...but it shouldn't surprise anyone, when Pelosi said way back when the Democrats SHOVED it through congress with blind eyes, "we'll see what's in it once it is law". Great job folks!!! Thanks!!
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it seems ONE party is just fine DELIBERATELY inflicting pain on the country and the people in it, you know like, shutting the Government down to satisfy their hissy fit!
I'm all for shutting the Govt. down. I wish it would be permanent. I'm tired of Obama, Clinton, Boehner, Biden, Pelosi,...... embarrassing our country and its people. America has gone from the greatest nation in the world to the biggest joke.

To simplify for you think of it this way. If your neighbors can't afford to pay their bills there is a word for that. It begins with an L and ends with an R.
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You could use Syria for example. Obama said he was drawing a red line in the sand not to be crossed and they all just laughed and pissed and danced on the line laughing. It's like Lynch saying he's having the FBI investigate you! You just can't take it seriously.
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You may not like the fact that Republican's up in the House don't want to fund Obamacare, but anyone who's been reading what is happening to people should be very concerned.
Businesses laying off workers and reducing hours to get around this ridiculous law. Costs for insurance for people already buying insurance skyrocketing. Doctor's leaving practice because they can't afford to work for the lousy amounts the government will reimburse for medical care...it is only the beginning.
...but it shouldn't surprise anyone, when Pelosi said way back when the Democrats SHOVED it through congress with blind eyes, "we'll see what's in it once it is law". Great job folks!!! Thanks!!
Fauz Snews LIES Factless, stop trying it, the law hasn't taken effect yet. It is not causing lay-offs, it is not causing rises in premiums of covered people and it closes the donut hole which means it now covers seniors prescriptions where it did not before.

Fauz Snews lies to you, get your information somewhere else cause you'll just be made a fool of again and again tryin to defend those indefensible lies, just like last week!!!!!!!!!!
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<quoted text>I'm all for shutting the Govt. down. I wish it would be permanent. I'm tired of Obama, Clinton, Boehner, Biden, Pelosi,...... embarrassing our country and its people. America has gone from the greatest nation in the world to the biggest joke.
To simplify for you think of it this way. If your neighbors can't afford to pay their bills there is a word for that. It begins with an L and ends with an R.
Ahhh, A Constitution hater, cool. Chaos, wild wild west huh, no Gevernment is needed at all to manage the greatest country in the world!!!

You like depriving Veteran's of their due? You like cutting off Senior's Social Security? You like shutting down all parks and recreation? You like shutting down all none emergency operations huh, we'll see how many other Americans like all that!!!

That's Conservative Utopia, we don't understand so, we'll burn it all down!
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You may not like the fact that Republican's up in the House don't want to fund Obamacare, but anyone who's been reading what is happening to people should be very concerned.
Businesses laying off workers and reducing hours to get around this ridiculous law. Costs for insurance for people already buying insurance skyrocketing. Doctor's leaving practice because they can't afford to work for the lousy amounts the government will reimburse for medical care...it is only the beginning.
...but it shouldn't surprise anyone, when Pelosi said way back when the Democrats SHOVED it through congress with blind eyes, "we'll see what's in it once it is law". Great job folks!!! Thanks!!
It's YOUR IDEA IDIOT!!!

"BAck when individual responsibility was important to Conservatives...

"In this 2007 interview, Mitt Romney defends the individual mandate that was a part of the health care legislation he signed into law in Massachusetts.

"When they show up at the hospital, they get care, they get free care, paid for by you and me. If that's not a form of socialism, I don't know what is. So my plan did something quite different. It said, you know what, if people can afford to buy insurance, if they can afford to buy insurance, or if they can pay their own way, then they either buy that insurance or pay their own way, but they no longer look to government to hand out free care. And that, in my opinion, is ultimate conservatism. That's why the Heritage Foundation worked with us and was at the celebration of the signing. The Heritage Foundation, as you know, a quintessentially conservative group, recognized that the principles of free enterprise and personal responsibility were at work. And I'm proud to talk about what we did. We did not need to raise taxes. We did not need to have the government take over health care. Instead, we rely on private market dynamics to get people in our state insured and for individuals to finally take responsibility for some portion of their health care rather than expecting government to give them a free ride."

Now, they ignore all past history and simply hate a black President with the heat if a thousand suns so they cast aside everything they ever stood for!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch..." ;

You don't like it, you should not have introduced it!!!
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You could use Syria for example. Obama said he was drawing a red line in the sand not to be crossed and they all just laughed and pissed and danced on the line laughing. It's like Lynch saying he's having the FBI investigate you! You just can't take it seriously.
Sure let's use Syria as an example...

We're going to witness the destruction of all their Chemical Weapons through DIPLOMACY, WITHOUT having a War, causing American Troop deaths and without SPENDING massive amounts of $$$$$!!!!!

Bush would have us in another 10 year, trillion $, troop death nightmare that would last well beyond the current Presidency!!!!

Great comparison!!!!!!
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Republican strategy, one word, Contrarion.

Doesn't matter what is said, doesn't matter what is thought, doesn't matter if it is their IDEA in the first place, THEY OPPOSE IT!!!!!

Now, you've all been arguing the reverse of what anyone says for so long your stuck in corners everywhere cause you can't take a stand on anything, anywhere at any time!

You're on both sides of every issue, that's why your own history is strangling you!!!!

WHERE IS YOUR REPLACEMENT FOR THE ACA???????
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Doh wrote:
<quoted text>I'm all for shutting the Govt. down. I wish it would be permanent. I'm tired of Obama, Clinton, Boehner, Biden, Pelosi,...... embarrassing our country and its people. America has gone from the greatest nation in the world to the biggest joke.
To simplify for you think of it this way. If your neighbors can't afford to pay their bills there is a word for that. It begins with an L and ends with an R.
You always have to think of things another way, cause you can't keep up with what it takes to keep a country and Democracy going!

"Because House Republicans are spoiled children who no longer feel the need to maintain the pretense that they care about policy or governing."

Your idea, close the country's doors!!!

Yeah, great idea, throw the whole thing out!! Hundreds of years of pain and strife to get where the country is today, Madison, Adams, Lincoln, Martin Luther King, hundreds of years of progress and you want to regress!!!

Sorry idiot child, not an option!!

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