Would it cost less to move city hall to a city owned building?

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Lynch for Mayor

Fitchburg, MA

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Sep 14, 2012
 
I am just wondering if Mayor Wong made the right decision in deciding to move city hall and to pay a huge lease? Is this fiscally a smart thing to do?

I am wondering why city hall hasn't moved to a local school building? I thought there was a few empty school building within Fitchburg that the city owns?

One is off of Lunenburg street. There is another off of Elm street that the city boarded up. These buildings are more than sufficient I would think.

I feel that the lease that the mayor received is very high and a waste of money.

Maybe the empty school buildings are earmarked for something else? I thought that Longsjo school was to combine with the other middle school? It was sighted that the student population was down. Maybe city hall could of moved into some of these empty class rooms?

Sometimes I feel that the Mayor just makes up her mind without accepting input nor brainstorming of ideas from others and then she just runs on her first thoughts.
Jus Sayin

Provincetown, MA

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Sep 14, 2012
 
You raise some interesting points but I doubt that moving the infrastructure that supports city hall is included in your estimation of the moving costs. If you are concerned that the mayor is acting without the advice or approval of others, perhaps you should request that she provide the documentation that supports her decision. She appears to be running a very transparant administration and would likely be happy to oblige.
Stew

Fitchburg, MA

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Sep 14, 2012
 
You raise some interesting points but I doubt that moving the infrastructure that supports city hall is included in your estimation of those moving costs along with your plans for a new highway connector and a new airport location. And as a voter, I'm concerned if you're still collecting SSDI and food stamps, are you?
Cuckoos Nest

Gardner, MA

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Sep 15, 2012
 
Those closed schools would also need major renovations and probably would cost more than renovating City Hall itself. They would need new boilers and heating systems, elevators, windows.

They would have to have handicap ramps installed. They would also need to have their electrical system and fire alarm system upgraded or replaced. The roofs would need to be replaced and the interior walls would need to be gutted and replaced.

Parking is extremely limited around those schools.
huh

Leominster, MA

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Sep 15, 2012
 
Cuckoos Nest wrote:
Those closed schools would also need major renovations and probably would cost more than renovating City Hall itself. They would need new boilers and heating systems, elevators, windows.
They would have to have handicap ramps installed. They would also need to have their electrical system and fire alarm system upgraded or replaced. The roofs would need to be replaced and the interior walls would need to be gutted and replaced.
Parking is extremely limited around those schools.
I think they looked at BF Brown because it had a new heating system, but there was zero ADA compliance inside and out and there had been some vandalism. Also a little too far off the beaten path. They also had some IT hurdles and have to have Comcast move the drop for FATV broadcast and this was too far. There are no other buildings large enough to hold everyone that the city owns.
Cuckoos Nest

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Sep 15, 2012
 

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The city would like to keep their offices on one floor which is the norm for new office buildings now. Single story buildings are now being built for most city office buildings in other communties. They are cost effective, less maintenance and more convienent for the customers.

Too bad the old Pelletiers building on Water St. was not city owned. Most of the city owned buildings are too old and antiquated for today's technology. Even Though BF Brown has a new boiler it would still cost too much to keep the place heated in the winter and cool in the summer.
Lynch for Mayor

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Sep 18, 2012
 
Cuckoos Nest wrote:
The city would like to keep their offices on one floor which is the norm for new office buildings now. Single story buildings are now being built for most city office buildings in other communties. They are cost effective, less maintenance and more convienent for the customers.
Too bad the old Pelletiers building on Water St. was not city owned. Most of the city owned buildings are too old and antiquated for today's technology. Even Though BF Brown has a new boiler it would still cost too much to keep the place heated in the winter and cool in the summer.
I think that the Brown school should be looked at more closely. These buildings are always cool in the summer due to their brick face.

As other citizens have stated to me, we would assist in the move at no cost. We could also build handicap ramps for no labor costs. I believe that the Mayor puts up a shield and blocks out the citizen.
Cuckoos Nest

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Sep 19, 2012
 
Lynch for Mayor wrote:
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I think that the Brown school should be looked at more closely. These buildings are always cool in the summer due to their brick face.
As other citizens have stated to me, we would assist in the move at no cost. We could also build handicap ramps for no labor costs. I believe that the Mayor puts up a shield and blocks out the citizen.
Well I know you never worked in all bricked building throughout the summer. These buildings are not cool in the summer. It is just the opposite. The bricks heat up and the building becomes a huge oven retaining their heat. There is no parking either. The streets around that school are busy enough so parking on the street is out of the question.

Assisting in the move is a good thought but it would never happen and the city wouldn't allow it. Too much liability if someone got hurt and what if something ended up missing or broken? Do you realize how much stuff that needs to be moved. Only a professional moving company will be able to assist the city hall employees with that type of move.

Building a handicap ramp needs to be done by certain precise specifications. There is also the liability factor there too. It will comprise of building the forms and filling with concrete and rebar which is very expensive. This isn't a residential home will pressure treated wood could be used. What if the ramp deteriorates and becomes useless in a short time? Who will rebuild it?

And lastly who has the time to do this? Everyone is working one or even two jobs. There is domestic work to be done around their own homes. Weekends are for the family.

I know that many private organizations such as social clubs have projects planned (such a yard cleanups) with 30 or more people that say they will show up and on the actual day only 2 actually do show up! What if no one shows up, now the city is stuck.

Why don't we volunteer and assist in repaving the streets too? Great idea but it just won't happen. Even the planning and logistics with volunteers will take time. This is not a "show up and go" like the neighborhood cleanup programs. Even those take a few months to plan for.

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