Councilors to Wong: Don't cut police jobs - Sentinel & Enterprise

Some city councilors are threatening to vote down Mayor Lisa Wong's proposed budget if she does not come up with a plan to fill five police-officer positions set to become vacant during fiscal 2011. Full Story
Seniority system

Belmont, MA

#22 May 28, 2010
The seniority system that is in place at the FPD has brought harm to law enforcement efforts. My that may be retiring: Paul C. Bozicas ;Peter J. Bergeron ;Kevin M. O’Brien;Ernest F. Martineau and Kerry C. Siomos, Jr.

Now I wish it were Philip J. Kearns, Jr.; Thomas M. Daoust ;Paul M. McNamara ;Timothy J. O'Brien and Tabitha Pepple.

This is the beginning of the cleansing of the good ole boy network that has strangled Fitchburg!!

If all officers leave the FPD this year; then this department may be able to begin to weed out the others.

We were blessed with Captain Louneys leaving; unfortunately before he got fired and Tasca.

Remove all these officers and then begin to vote out Conry, Kaddy and DiNatale and all others who have kept this city down from prospering!!!

These politicians had made it easy for the current Police union to manipulate contracts that made it nearly impossible to fire the do nothing cops!

If all these cops left and these politicians ;then the city should erect a state of the art Police Station and place it right on Main street across from Tedeschi!!! Knock the old furniture building down!
Kearns for a paperweight

Belmont, MA

#23 May 28, 2010
A certain group around 20 FPD members could retire at once and there wouldn't be a rise in crime! These 20 do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING !

The Walmart greeters work 10 times harder than these 20. The Walmart greeters use their brains fifty times more than these 20.

Now if certain patrolmen, the chief or certain detectives leave then you need to replace them as they are the only ones who do anything!

There is no reason to replace say: Captain Kearns! This guy does NOTHING but press his uniform and comb his hair!! You are better off replacing Kearns with a paper weight for an office desk.
Here is a deal

Belmont, MA

#24 May 28, 2010
DiNatale, Conry and Kaddy all need to go! These guys have held back Fitchburg from prospering! Name the five that are leaving!

What member of the FPD resigned??

These councilors act like they have done anything positive for Fitchburg! Let me tell you guys; Fitchburg would be in better space if you hadn't sc.r.e.w.ed things up for so long!

These three have co-signed EVERY "good ole boy" in the FPD!!

Heres a deal; Fire all the ones that utilized this matchbook accounting scheme along with 10 of the good ole boy network. A total of 20 of these guys and I will guarantee that this city hires 30 new patrolmen!!
Hmm

Marlborough, MA

#25 May 28, 2010
Remember Conry's last run for council cost the city 30,000 thats almost a cop
Remember When

Cummaquid, MA

#26 May 29, 2010
Factory work is tougher wrote:
<quoted text>
We will see how many people you think that feel the same of the FPD!!!!! Lets have a city wide vote!!! Lets register all to vote!!!!
All the jobs you mentioned were twice as hard as a cop job and is more dangerous and life threatening!!
It's too bad the private sector jobs tanked. It's too bad everyone's 401K tanked. But it wasn't the city workers fault, it was the economy. The FPD gets paid for what they have been trained and are willing to do when needed. Just like a surgeon gets paid for when he is needed to do surgury not for what he does every minute on clock unlike the private sector. Other jobs are more dangerous and the people who do them chose that job so why do they care about the cops? No one is awake at night and notices our city's finest pulling over a low rider with tinted windows and NY plates at 3 am in the projects. How much is that worth for an average paycheck? And yes it is average. Whether the middle class worker likes it or not cops get paid based on other "Professional Occupations" such as lawyers, etc.$80K to $100K is average in a "Professional Occupation". Cops are not compared to the average factory worker anymore. Cops are still being viewed as if they are working in the 70's and 80's. Those days have long gone. Too many people compare our city to the towns that border us. We are a city not a town and we cannot operate like a town with auxiliary police. A night in the burg is a year in other small towns. People in other "Professional occupations" state the cops don't make enough. To live a comfortable life in Massachusetts a salary of $80K to $100K is needed. We are not talking about a salary to just get by on but to prosper on. I know, people are losing their jobs and benefits but there are people making millions off the recession too. People with jobs life still goes on. People whom lost their jobs should get over it because those jobs are never coming back. Too many people did not advance themselves during the past 20-30 years and because of the economy they are now jobless. Too bad. I feel sorry for them but it isn't the cops fault. The cops were the lowest paid occupation for many years while everyone else was making 2-3 times as much. But they chose job security instead during those years and the times have turned.
Unbelievable

Fitchburg, MA

#27 May 29, 2010
Google head wrote:
How about she re-hires the same civilian dispatchers she let go for "savings" by putting officers behind a desk ! What a waste ! She continues to make mistake after mistake and then goes back trying to fix a problem she created. A city is only as good as it's leadership.....She is a very poor leader to say the least. I've heard people on here say " at least she's trying new things" , my response to that is , she's expiermenting with tax payers money. Thats just not acceptable, and boarderline reckless !
Wow, to make such accusations without knowing the truth. For your information, it was the CITY COUNCILORS who were responsible for cutting the civilian dispatchers and the subsequent resignation from Chief Cronin. And that was when Mylott was in the midst of destroying our city. Maybe you should rethink your opinion of the Mayor. She is not experimenting, anything new she has done has come from networking with other communities to see what has worked for them. New practices, new ideas and continuous learning is exactly what this city desperately needs.
True Leader

Cummaquid, MA

#28 May 29, 2010
The Mayor only tries to implement what she has been advised to do from the State House, Governor and other communities. A strong leader will never state this is what other communities or a higher power has instructed them to do because that would take away their credibility and leadership powers. Being a manager I never tell my workers about what the higher administration wants and has instructed me to implement in my company and with my workers. I just tell them what I want even though it came from higher ranking manager. This preserves a manager's power.
resident

Fitchburg, MA

#29 May 29, 2010
Kearns for a paperweight wrote:
A certain group around 20 FPD members could retire at once and there wouldn't be a rise in crime! These 20 do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING !
The Walmart greeters work 10 times harder than these 20. The Walmart greeters use their brains fifty times more than these 20.
Now if certain patrolmen, the chief or certain detectives leave then you need to replace them as they are the only ones who do anything!
There is no reason to replace say: Captain Kearns! This guy does NOTHING but press his uniform and comb his hair!! You are better off replacing Kearns with a paper weight for an office desk.
First of all how do you know what Capt. Kearns does all day, do you follow him around? Secondly, get your facts straight he doesn't comb his hair because he is BALD and I would hope he would iron his uniform. You people are soooo petty and jealous.
ShinesHead All Day

Belmont, MA

#30 May 29, 2010
resident wrote:
<quoted text>First of all how do you know what Capt. Kearns does all day, do you follow him around? Secondly, get your facts straight he doesn't comb his hair because he is BALD and I would hope he would iron his uniform. You people are soooo petty and jealous.
Correction: HE SHINES HIS HEAD ALL DAY THEN ,INSTAED OF COMBING HIS HAIR BECAUSE HE IS BALD.
Fed up

Fitchburg, MA

#31 May 29, 2010
Seniority system wrote:
The seniority system that is in place at the FPD has brought harm to law enforcement efforts. My that may be retiring: Paul C. Bozicas ;Peter J. Bergeron ;Kevin M. O’Brien;Ernest F. Martineau and Kerry C. Siomos, Jr.
Now I wish it were Philip J. Kearns, Jr.; Thomas M. Daoust ;Paul M. McNamara ;Timothy J. O'Brien and Tabitha Pepple.
This is the beginning of the cleansing of the good ole boy network that has strangled Fitchburg!!
If all officers leave the FPD this year; then this department may be able to begin to weed out the others.
We were blessed with Captain Louneys leaving; unfortunately before he got fired and Tasca.
Remove all these officers and then begin to vote out Conry, Kaddy and DiNatale and all others who have kept this city down from prospering!!!
These politicians had made it easy for the current Police union to manipulate contracts that made it nearly impossible to fire the do nothing cops!
If all these cops left and these politicians ;then the city should erect a state of the art Police Station and place it right on Main street across from Tedeschi!!! Knock the old furniture building down!
Hey Ying Yang You have no idea what your talking about. First of all Timothy Bergeron has been retired for years. Secondly the number one man right now and the officer that is next to retire is Detective William Lawrence(aka Buzzy), he is a exceptional officer who has served this city for many years with much integrity. There is absolutely no way you can say anything negative about this officer. Det.Lawrence has worked extremely hard for this city and deserves his retirement, he is a class act.
Zippy

Fitchburg, MA

#32 May 29, 2010
Bloggers should be REQUIRED to identify themselves, just a they are when writing to the S&E letter box. Probably there would be no bloggers because the majority who have written on this story have no balls whatsoever to give their ID's. Spewing forth their venom about nothing they know about. Lies, assumptions and just plain character assasinations. What do you suppose most of these morons have in their family closets that they don't want divulged.
Wow, what a trip......Just a short one to Worcester State.
who is Zippy

Belmont, MA

#33 May 29, 2010
Zippy wrote:
Bloggers should be REQUIRED to identify themselves, just a they are when writing to the S&E letter box. Probably there would be no bloggers because the majority who have written on this story have no **** whatsoever to give their ID's. Spewing forth their venom about nothing they know about. Lies, assumptions and just plain character assasinations. What do you suppose most of these **** have in their family closets that they don't want divulged.
Wow, what a trip......Just a short one to Worcester State.
JEEZE ZIPPY is identifiable! What cop is getting a bad rap? Do you feel that the FPD has been working functionally? What abouth for the past 15 years? I would say that 50% needs to go in order to have any justice in Fitchburg.
Fact or Fiction

Cummaquid, MA

#34 May 29, 2010
Zippy wrote:
Bloggers should be REQUIRED to identify themselves, just a they are when writing to the S&E letter box. Probably there would be no bloggers because the majority who have written on this story have no **** whatsoever to give their ID's. Spewing forth their venom about nothing they know about. Lies, assumptions and just plain character assasinations. What do you suppose most of these **** have in their family closets that they don't want divulged.
Wow, what a trip......Just a short one to Worcester State.
I agree 100% Zippy, it seems everyone knows how the police and other city departments operate. So who are these people because many of them don't know. They read the newspaper too much and live their lives about any information they get from the media. If we get names then we can educate them about the operation of the city and the mayor and they will realize that the city is operating the best they can with what they have. They will realize the Mayor is bound to serve the best interests of the city even though she may receive her advice from a higher authority. I never see any of them come into city hall to do any research or even visit any of the departments themselves. People naturally start rumours just to fuel up a conflict between them and the city.
BergerGone

Belmont, MA

#35 May 29, 2010
Fed up wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Ying Yang You have no idea what your talking about. First of all Timothy Bergeron has been retired for years. Secondly the number one man right now and the officer that is next to retire is Detective William Lawrence(aka Buzzy), he is a exceptional officer who has served this city for many years with much integrity. There is absolutely no way you can say anything negative about this officer. Det.Lawrence has worked extremely hard for this city and deserves his retirement, he is a class act.
I don't know about "buzzy". He may be a great cop! Unfortunately the only solved murders in this city are the ones where the murderor is either injured of dead also. Another thing is the fact that there are NO major drug bust in Fitchburg!
Fed up

Fitchburg, MA

#36 May 29, 2010
BergerGone wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know about "buzzy". He may be a great cop! Unfortunately the only solved murders in this city are the ones where the murderor is either injured of dead also. Another thing is the fact that there are NO major drug bust in Fitchburg!
Sorry I meant Timothy Obrien has been retired for years. Deputy chief Bereron is also going to be retiring in December when he turnd 65. I wonder who will replace him?
other Obrien

Belmont, MA

#37 May 29, 2010
Fed up wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry I meant Timothy Obrien has been retired for years. Deputy chief Bereron is also going to be retiring in December when he turnd 65. I wonder who will replace him?
Deputy Chief bergeron? What does he do for work?? Does he also have a nice pressed uniform with creases and all.

I meant the other Obrien, Cadilac man! He must be close. What does he do for his work day?
Seriously

Gardner, MA

#38 May 29, 2010
5been retired on the job wrote:
<quoted text>
tELL ME WHAT THEY DEAL WITH!! gO AHEAD BULLET POINT IT FOR ALL OF US!! wE ARE WAITING FOR YOUR LOGIC!!
The FPD receives way TOO much time off!!!!!!! The job is extremely lucrative!! Tell me what they need to deal with!! I haven't seen them in a foot chase all year long!!!!
Tell me what these five cops do all day!! tHE five that are retiring; tell me their daily routine!!!!!!!! They don't even arrive at "cat in a tree" calls any more!!!!!! They sit around all day!!
Lets talk facts!!!!
Dude, seriously, form a sentence properly before you try and call someone out.
Lucrative? If the bubble that you live in allows you to believe that the average FPD officer's salary is "lucrative", then life will probably continue to be hard for you.
Sure, any of us would volunteer to babysit an entire city knowing that if shit went down, we'd have only one or two people to come and help. With more guns on the streets than officer's in the department and the amount of calls the pd fields every shift, how can you honestly act like their job's on easy street.
As for the details, consider it like a second job and go apply for something part-time yourself if you're really that bitter. I for one, would never work 80 hours a week for what they make. See, the whole problem here is everyone's worried about everyone else. Try putting down your hater-ade homie and find yourself a better job. Perhaps if you were making a bit more, you wouldnt be complaining on the topix section of the local rag.
Money Talks

Cummaquid, MA

#39 May 30, 2010
Seriously wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude, seriously, form a sentence properly before you try and call someone out.
Lucrative? If the bubble that you live in allows you to believe that the average FPD officer's salary is "lucrative", then life will probably continue to be hard for you.
Sure, any of us would volunteer to babysit an entire city knowing that if **** went down, we'd have only one or two people to come and help. With more guns on the streets than officer's in the department and the amount of calls the pd fields every shift, how can you honestly act like their job's on easy street.
As for the details, consider it like a second job and go apply for something part-time yourself if you're really that bitter. I for one, would never work 80 hours a week for what they make. See, the whole problem here is everyone's worried about everyone else. Try putting down your hater-ade homie and find yourself a better job. Perhaps if you were making a bit more, you wouldnt be complaining on the topix section of the local rag.
Absolutley correct, If you not earning or making more than a police officer then you must be a loser. Somewhere in life you didn't take the initiative to further yourself. People stop feeling sorry for yourselves. Because that is what you are doing or else you wouldn't be so concerned about the cops. Please get a life and don't waste your life. I see that the Fitchburg mentality of being afraid of being successful is still alive. Just because you live in the Burg doesn't mean you cannot prosper.
Unbelievable

Fitchburg, MA

#40 May 30, 2010
True Leader wrote:
The Mayor only tries to implement what she has been advised to do from the State House, Governor and other communities. A strong leader will never state this is what other communities or a higher power has instructed them to do because that would take away their credibility and leadership powers. Being a manager I never tell my workers about what the higher administration wants and has instructed me to implement in my company and with my workers. I just tell them what I want even though it came from higher ranking manager. This preserves a manager's power.
As a manager myself, I agree that certain things shouldn't be shared with your staff. But I don't agree with not telling them what the powers that be want to implement, if you mean a new policy or procedure. From my experience, you get more productivity when you keep your staff informed. They feel more included and it helps to keep up morale. What can I say, different management style.

If I were a worker, I would prefer trying an evidence based practice, with positive outcomes over one that is not. And if the Mayor's only fault is being directed by a higher power to implement something that has proven to work, I can live with that. Besides, I'm not talking about state mandates, I'm talking about talking to leaders of other communities to see what they have sucessfully done to resolve certain issues. Another Mayor can't direct another Mayor to do anthing.

“I'm a Fitchburger and Proud ”

Since: Jan 08

Fitchburg ( of course)

#41 May 30, 2010
Seniority system wrote:
The seniority system that is in place at the FPD has brought harm to law enforcement efforts. My that may be retiring: Paul C. Bozicas ;Peter J. Bergeron ;Kevin M. O’Brien;Ernest F. Martineau and Kerry C. Siomos, Jr.
Now I wish it were Philip J. Kearns, Jr.; Thomas M. Daoust ;Paul M. McNamara ;Timothy J. O'Brien and Tabitha Pepple.
This is the beginning of the cleansing of the good ole boy network that has strangled Fitchburg!!
If all officers leave the FPD this year; then this department may be able to begin to weed out the others.
We were blessed with Captain Louneys leaving; unfortunately before he got fired and Tasca.
Remove all these officers and then begin to vote out Conry, Kaddy and DiNatale and all others who have kept this city down from prospering!!!
These politicians had made it easy for the current Police union to manipulate contracts that made it nearly impossible to fire the do nothing cops!
If all these cops left and these politicians ;then the city should erect a state of the art Police Station and place it right on Main street across from Tedeschi!!! Knock the old furniture building down!
... and then build robo cops to put in the new shiny police station...that won't cost much...and then attack dogs patrolling the streets looking for "PAPERS"...think of the savings... the whole dept run on killer kibble.
Stop dreaming and support what can be accomplished... 5 new cops to replace the old ones. The 2,000,000. stabilization fund would be well drained over the next 6 years if we can keep em' on the streets fighting for our survival.

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